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I currently have an 18" Stanton Slackline with X-Fusion Slant forks set at 140mm, 60mm stem and 38mm riser bars 760mm wide. I have set it up to take a bit of abuse partly because I am over 15 stone (6'3" and all muscle honestly :D)however am realising that as my riding doesn't really get any more aggressive than Dalby red that I am perhaps a bit over biked.

Whilst is it great fun it currently doesn't climb very well and the front wants to pop up all the time on steep stuff. How would you adjust the setup to make it ride more XC?

I was thinking I need to get my weight over the front more therefore lower the forks to 130mm/120mm, maybe lower the stem or get a set of lower rise bars? It is comfortable and I like how it rides otherwise so don't want to lose this really.

Alternatively was looking at swapping the frame out for a 19" Cotic Soul and run the forks at 120mm as everyone seems to rave about them and they seem ideal for what I actually use the bike for. This would however cost a bit and not too keen on the Duck Egg Blue which is the only colour they have left in large and they are not getting any more.

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Posted : 21/04/2015 10:40 am
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Your saddle to bars looks about right. I'd just bend my elbows more on the climbs to get weight forward a bit and leave it as it is for the downs.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 10:42 am
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I have my 18" setup with 140mm Manitous, a 40mm renthal duo stem and 30mm rise bars and its fine for climbing.

I would say though that your forks look pretty long for 140mm?


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 10:48 am
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Or swap to a travel adjust fork for climbing if you're happy with it on the flats and downs


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 10:58 am
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would say though that your forks look pretty long for 140mm?

Yeah the Slants have quite a long A-C measurement I believe compared to say a Pike set at the equivalent travel which probably isn't helping.

I have been trying to improve climbing technique however still finding it a pain.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:00 am
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Or swap to a travel adjust fork for climbing if you're happy with it on the flats and downs

Would rather have a fork which is set and forget. It's not really the long climbs which are a problem where you could adjust at the bottom it's when you reach a short sharp bit on the trail that the front just wants to pop up or goes very light.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:02 am
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My amateur bike analysis skills think its more the seat angle than the bar height which looks fine as Rickos said.
Slacklines have a fairly slack seat angle to begin with and the long A-C height are making it even slacker which leads to the arse over the back wheel front end light feeling. Which was kinda what the Slackline was designed around but possibly you're setup has taken it too far for it to be stable on sharp steep sections. Probably great DH though.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:13 am
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You may be on to something with the seat tube angle as it does look quite steep.

I think I am going to try reducing the travel to 130mm and see how it rides then. Thanks for the comments.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:39 am
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move your saddle forward a bit


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:43 am
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I had a Slackline which was a great little bike that I really loved but climbing wasn't it's forte at all.

It was fundamentally too small which didn't help. I tried adding a longer stem (65mm) which did help and I used the ETA on the forks once but the bike felt horrible with really short forms on it. It was so much fun everywhere else that I forgave it for its ropey climbing.

In the end I changed it for a bike that actually fits (Switchback).


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:44 am
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i too have a slackline and am 6,3... i run fox float 32 talas, and do reduce the travel sometimes, it does help...

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Posted : 21/04/2015 11:47 am
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What stem and bars are you running alcolepone?


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 11:57 am
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Buy my large Soul frame in the Classifieds. ๐Ÿ™‚

Sorry, couldn't resist.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 12:04 pm
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X-fusion forks can be reduced down in 20mm increments, they'll be a doddle to take down to 120mm.

Bars could come down to 720 width, stem at 60mm is about right these days for the non extreme stuff.

Learn by riding the bike more, familiarity and position are more important. I once built up a Kona Caldera on 100mm forks that was worse uphill that the 140mm OnOne 456 that came after!

Try moving the saddle forward, bend your arms more (the amount of riders I see on the trails with straight arms and legs is infuriating!)....your Stanton is a great bike and should do exactly what you want from it, sometimes it just takes an adjust to technique, some sensible tinkering and patience!


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 12:06 pm
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I'd lower the stem, it's easy to do and free! My Soul has 140s and the bar is quite low rise and stem almost slammed.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 12:18 pm
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And slide the saddle forwards 10-20mm.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 1:06 pm
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at 6'3" you're pretty much into 20" frame territory - especially if you're more XC biased an not a fan of long stems...


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 1:12 pm
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Have you tried removing a spacer or 2 from the headset? What about running the saddle further forward on the rails? I run mine quite forward on my bike and prefer it that way. Surely wider bars would be better than narrower bars for keeping your weight forward?

PribBly the best idea is to fiddle with what you have and try to adapt your riding style before you fork out cash on new bars/forks/frame. I know a few people running 140-150 length forks on their Slacklines and they seem to enjoy them.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 1:27 pm
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i run a 70mm stem and 750 bars. feels good to me.

i have the seat all the way back on the rails. i like the unweighted front wheel, easily get it over obstacles, but haven't noticed the front end trying to raise up on steep hills. i would have the travel on the forks on its lower setting for a steep climb.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 1:42 pm
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It's not really the long climbs which are a problem where you could adjust at the bottom it's when you reach a short sharp bit on the trail that the front just wants to pop up or goes very light.

Get out of the saddle and climb like a single speeder. Lots of gearies believe in sitting and winching on climbs, short sharp climbs are often better if attacked with a bit of gurning.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 2:06 pm
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If you like the forks as they are, you could slacken it a bit by using a slackset or something. This will steepen the seat tube push your weight forward a bit more, helping to keep the front down.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 8:26 pm
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Thanks for the ideas all. I have removed a couple of steerer spacers and am going to move the seat forward a little and see how that is before spacing the forks down a further 10mm.

The reason I had spacers was to minimise the height difference between the handle bars and saddle me being tall and it an 18" frame. I don't think the frame is too small for me as is quite long and has the same effective top tube as the 19" Soul.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 8:34 pm
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I have a slackline and use an adjustable fork, and it climbs well. If i'm climbing for ages i drop the fork to 110mm and it helps a lot, its not a bad climber though at 140mm just lean forward a bit more. It still descends well at 110mm just need to pick your lines better and if you like jumping it jumps better with shorter fork. Maybe you should think about lowering your fork to 120mm.


 
Posted : 21/04/2015 10:02 pm