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[Closed] Speeding on a bike - does this look real/photoshopped?

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the "flash" doesn't look like its coming form the camera - more like a torch at the side of it imo. What do you think?


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 6:59 pm
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mate, you really do post some shit.................... ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:00 pm
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lol - real or 'shopped?


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:01 pm
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It's really hard to set off a speed camera on a bike. We spent a couple of hours trying in Plymouth a few years back.

And your right, that's most likely a remote flash controlled by radio.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:02 pm
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Appart from anything else, cameras tend to go off at around 3/4 of the road marking stripes IME...

possible in theory, but probably photoshopped.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:04 pm
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The rider is the superhuman [url=

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Posted : 03/08/2010 7:07 pm
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Is that every bodies favourite freerider?


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:08 pm
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I don't think it is photoshopped

I think they just stuck a remote camera flash on top of the speed camera and took a picture. The camera flash goes off automatically when they take the picture and you have just posted the results.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:09 pm
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Anyone tell what bike that is?


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:13 pm
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Appart from anything else, cameras tend to go off at around 3/4 of the road marking stripes

they take two pictures once at the start and once at the end to get your average speed.

I think it might be staged with a remote flash.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:14 pm
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it might be possible if the bike had been heading towards the camera rather than away as the spokes at the top of the wheel would have being doing twice the speed of the bike

...but probably a remote flash as highclimber said


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:21 pm
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It would have to be an exceptionally well timed photo to get a perfectly sharp image of a 30mph+ rider at the exact moment the speed camera flash went off!


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:24 pm
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I have tri3ed fairly hard to set of speed cameras. I can get the advisory ones to register - you know the smiley face if under the limit or the ones that tell you your speed but I have not been able to get gatsos to flash - either too slow ( I was doing around 35) or just not a big enough radar reflection

So I think that pic is faked


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:51 pm
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elbry... waht a p*****.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:51 pm
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oh... and i've been pulled over by a copper with a radar gun and stopped by the Polizei for jumping a red light, but been able to set off niether speed camera or red-light camera.

and agree with above. the flash is a remote flash.... poorly positioned, to say the least.

and ralph... shame on you for checking out this twots facebook pages.... ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:53 pm
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The link is gone


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:57 pm
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So, not somebody sat on the roof pointing a bright light at the road then as the rider passes by. Easy photo to take if it is?


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 7:58 pm
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Lots of clues to suggest it's a set-up.

The speed camera's gun is relatively low powered, as it only needs to illuminate the reflective number plate of a car. If you consider that even low-powered commuting LEDs can illuminate a road sign/number plate 100m away, then the speed cam would only need a flash as powerful as on a mobile 'phone cam or similar. Considering the amount of illumination the speed cam flash on that pic appears to be providing, I'd say it's definitely not the real one, but as BBB says, a remotely triggered flashgun next to the speed cam. Probably triggered using a slave cell reacting to the flash on the picture taking cam. Plus, the frontal light from the camera flashgun would 'drown out' the speed cam flash. No way would a speed cam flash be powerful enough to provide that much light, to create a shadow from the bike onto the road. Have you ever seen one that pumps out that much light? Barely more than a very brief flicker. Otherwise it would blind on-coming motorists. And aren't some infra-red anyway, so invisible to 'normal' photography? A poor hoax.

It's a simple process of deduction, Watson.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:00 pm
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Anyone tell what bike that is?

It's a Mountain Cycle Battery.

I'll get my anorak ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:08 pm
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[url=

a roffle[/url] at the outlawry


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:10 pm
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he does seem to do stuff that leaves him open to charges of being a clueless wannabe.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:14 pm
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Where's the law breaking? That's about the least rad thing I have ever seen on Youtube. I used to do that when I was 15.

Not many things you can say would be a lot radder on a road bike. You could be going 50% faster.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:30 pm
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Dual sync flash. One on camera, remote one on the the camera.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:36 pm
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it's elbry, so it must be true, the highways agency must be his latest sponsor


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 8:55 pm
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It's a setup...
One off camera flash on / near the speed camera, generating the light going forward and right of the rider.
One off camera flash down low'ish to the left of the picture frame, generating the light on the side of the rider, and the shadow to his left, across the path and up the wall. You can tell it's low because the shadows of the wall are up high on the house...

Oh - and pretty sure the little dark box, top left of the speed camera (as we look at it) is the flash...


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 9:01 pm
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I have set off a camera before by bike(in a 40 zone!), but it was with about 5 other riders so that probebly helped as i have ridden past the same camera at a similar speed and not set it off.


 
Posted : 03/08/2010 9:01 pm
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Posted : 05/08/2010 1:50 pm
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I think they just stuck a remote camera flash on top of the speed camera and took a picture. The camera flash goes off automatically when they take the picture and you have just posted the results.

Exactly! I have a remote trigger for my flashgun, and if you point the flash at the camera from a distance, you get a picture just like that. It would also be virtually impossible to take a pic like that and time your exposure to the camera flash maually.
I reckon I could replicate that shot fairly easily without any photoshopping at all ๐Ÿ™‚

Still a good pic though.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:03 pm
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rob warner set off a camera in some film or other when he was using a big petrol powered fan on his back so i guess it's possible to trigger one.

also, someone triggered the camera in bloxham near banbury by bike many many years ago, and supposedly the police doggedly traced the cyclist (somehow) and got them a fine. this may be a myth of course, i don't know who the person was...


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:06 pm
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*posts just to keep tabs on the thread, so the roffle can unfold when elbry pitches up to throw his toys around in a rage*


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:08 pm
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What a tool.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:10 pm
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I have never set off a camera, even doing 35mph past one on a road bike. I think they are set too high. I really can't see a 36 toothed big bike tyred doing the required speed to set one off.
Remote flash on the camera box.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:10 pm
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[i]have a roffle at the outlawry [/i]

All that video needs now is some roadie cruising past them, hands on the hoods. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Pic is a set-up with a remote flash unit mounted on the speed camera plus another just to the left of the camera. Would have looked better with a light trail from a rear LED.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:49 pm
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You can set cameras off on a moped - if you go fast enough - and they're not much bigger than a DH bike.

I think the speed is an issue - in my local area the cameras in 30 zones were set at 43mph so you'd need to tuck in on a big hill to reach that.

I've registered on those signs that tell you your actual speed but you need to be over the limit (40) for it to flash up. Downhill on a road bike so easy enough.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 2:56 pm
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My first thought was that the flash is coming from the top of the post that the camera's mounted on, not from the flash unit on the camera. But seeing as its the UK's no. 1 freerider, he's probably set off the 50mph limit camera by rolling past after hucking off the roof next to it. Metal Mulisha!!!!


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:02 pm
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how many attempts would it take to get a pic at the same time as the flash of the speed camera? lol


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:04 pm
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Me and ourkidsam were riding the last bit of road off our local loop when we saw a radar copper. Both of us started pelting towards him

"26" he shouted at me
"17, not fast enough!!!" he shouted at sam. ๐Ÿ˜€

That photo's a bit bobbins though


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:05 pm
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Looks faked, however bikes can set off gatsos. I'm sure I remember a documentary where the showed a bird setting off a gatso.

Cyclists cannot be prosecuted for speeding as they have no requirement to use a speedometer


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:13 pm
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have a roffle at the outlawry

what a waste of a full suss...


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:27 pm
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i cant set off a 30 zone cam going flat oot doon hill on my TT bike doing well well over 30 .... but that must be cause im aero as **** innit !

i dont believe it - mythbusters busted similar myths ages ago - and also the bird one ....


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:36 pm
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Flash on GAtso's is top left corner IIRC - just where that little black square is


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:38 pm
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would be bottom right looking from front according to this.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:41 pm
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Huh? Wouldn't it be top right, where the flashy looking thing is, as pieface said?

Me and a friend set one off a few years back, 53 in a 40 IIRC, 2 of us though, so bigger 'target' which I suspect is the issue. Never done it since.


 
Posted : 05/08/2010 3:46 pm
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is he wearing goggles riding down the street?


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 1:29 am
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I set off the one at the bottom of the hill coming into Brighton on the L2B a couple of years back. I was doing 50 something according to the computer on my bars. I think it is 40mph limit.

Can't remember if I had other riders around me or was on my own. Got a round of applause from the coppers parked there though.


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 6:17 am
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On occasion I've thought about getting one of these[img] [/img]

a yachties radar reflector - tying it to my back and going for a brisk ride around a few speed cameras... Just in the name of science


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 7:11 am
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Aren't speed cameras digital now?

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Huh? Wouldn't it be top right, where the flashy looking thing is, as pieface said?

From that pic, top right would be the actual camera...


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 7:52 am
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I think we've probably established that the photo is a set up but I actually quite like it as a shot and think it is quite funny. It's a fun idea and pretty well executed.

Not sure why everyone is getting so hung up on whether it is faked or not. What does it matter?


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 7:56 am
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matthew_h agreed! I like it and that it is so obviously contrived makes me more impressed!


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 8:38 am
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I think it si a very good picture, yes we all knwo it is fake with a remote flash, but the idea behind it is original and well executed.

Good work, i might have to go and replicate it, but with no g@y goggles...


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 9:02 am
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Similar style of photo here (can't paste it direct, just click on the link):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peakcyclehire/4334772865/in/set-72157623366815508/

taken by Richpips
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/peakcyclehire/sets/ ]his flickr site[/url]


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 10:16 am
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On occasion I've thought about getting one of these

I've thought about making one - advice from somebody in work who works with radar is that the inside corner of a cardboard box covered in alu foil should work quite well (you only need to reflect in one direction). The trouble is, the best local candidate is on the flat after the bottom of the downhill, and it's pretty tough for me to sustain even 32 or 33mph past it.


 
Posted : 06/08/2010 11:06 am
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it's elbry, so it must be true, the highways agency must be his latest sponsor

He is a sponsored rider though see here: [url= http://www.mountaincycle.com/community/topic/press-release-mountain-cycle-signs-uks-elbry-sandland ]link mountain cycles website[/url]

I like the pic, who cares if its as et up , its still cool.


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 1:10 pm
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It's not difficult to set of the proper gatso speed cameras. I trigger one near wigan every time I go through it, keep meaning to video myself doing it.

Actually, I'm heading out that way now, do you want me to try and get it on camera?


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 1:19 pm
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Do it! That would be a lot of fun.


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 1:23 pm
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I'll see what I can do, I just need to clear out the memory card of videos of crazy-legs crashing. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 1:29 pm
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Well this is embarrassing. Every single time, every single time before I've tripped it! Stick a camera on the bike and it stays completely quiet.

Ho hum.
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Posted : 07/08/2010 8:23 pm
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Fake - what are the chances of timing your shot so that the gatso's flash and your's coincide?

Could be done with an open shutter and a optical slave flash so that the Gatso triggers your (slave flash) but that wasn't how it was done.

The flash by the Gatso is real - either that or someone has spent far to long touching up the shadows - but the power of the camera's flash should drown out the Gatso's flash if it were real - it doesn't look at the shadows on the wall.

If the Gatso's flash was that powerful it would be a road safety hazard for any drvers coming the other way - a little bit blinding.

Oh and the flash by the Gatso is clear of the yellow box by a foot or so.

Overall - nice idea poorly executed (they should have taped the flash to the Gatso and turned the output down a stop or two).

Now I did once get one of the "30 slow down" signs to trigger when I was out on my single speed - checking the Garmin data later said I was doing 30.5mph. It was at the bottom of a big old hill out South Kirby way.


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 9:37 pm
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Can you be prosecuted for speeding on a bike?


 
Posted : 07/08/2010 10:43 pm
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They've got to catch you first.


 
Posted : 08/08/2010 12:38 am