[Closed] Sorry sorry sorry but its another help me choose thread

The Rose sounds like a flower - so get the Canyon.

The Rose has a carbon bar as well. They are not cheap.

Lot of money to spend without seeing the bike though, I don't envy you the decision.

(well I do a bit)

Thanks Gents(i assume)

I must admit all things being equal id plump for the canyon, but that Rose just seems like a bargain in comparison! which does not seem right to me as the canyons are normally good VFM so i assumed i was missing something :s

Just a little bump to see if anyone else can help sway my decision

sat here with two shopping carts open hovering over each checkout button

is the canyon worth £700 more ?

We've had a couple of Rose bikes in.

Frames were pretty poor quality, badly set up also.

But then I'd say only buy what you can test ride.

Thanks Al that's good to know

As for buying without a ride, its a fair point but the savings and opportunity to send it back are worth it for me

TBH every bike ive bought even from bike shops ive not had a proper test ride (i mean a good day or two), just the car park ride around or a short test track which i personally find it hard to judge by in either case as each new bike takes some getting used too.

that said ive been very happy with most of my purchases be it online or through a shop

but more to the point i still cant decide what to buy !!! HELP !!!

but i did just buy a Moda intro for my turbo trainer ....

http://www.cyclesuk.com/10494264/products/moda-intro-in-matt-black-and-matt-white.aspx?origin=pla?kwd=&gclid=CImV2YWOyrwCFaQfwwodNAUAvw

These days I am pretty happy to buy bikes without a test ride, I know pretty much what sizes and angles work for me. If you haven't worked that out, I would recommend having a sit on experience first.

Canyon are great value and the frames are top notch, not just bought from a manufacturers catalogue and badged up, which the rose bike frames are.

Poorly set up bikes is not the sole preserve of the online retailer

MSP - Member
These days I am pretty happy to buy bikes without a test ride, I know pretty much what sizes and angles work for me.

Me too - you can't tell how a frame will feel without riding it though.

its a fair point Al, buying off a spreadsheet does not offer the chance to assess the feel/compliance and that's the area you do need to turn to the reviews and forums for unless you can get a [b]long[/b] test ride.

and 'feel'/comfort is one of the reasons the canyon is on my short list as it's reported to have an excellent comfort factor

OK its decided, even though its not as good deal on paper, im going for the canyon and will upgrade the wheels to some carbon jobbies