[Closed] Someone please put me off buying a Turner Flux.

isn't the blurb about it (from turner) something like if you don't know what training zones 4 and 5 are you shouldn't get one?

So you saw that Merlin have reduced them for this week to £1395?

Must admit I'm tempted

I had one of the older TNT models.Great xc bike.Climbs well descends well and eats the miles.

Overpriced American crap don't waste your money, why not get a Boardman fs bike, which Dave Turner clearly copied for his previous suspension design

High quality frame, brilliant DW link, superb handling up hill and down, well priced, great after sales back no matter when bought. Pivot bushes with grease nipples.

Hope that helps

Whenever I hear the name I think of this bloke... 🙂
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Get a Ventana instead.

Who is that bloke above?

[i]Someone please put me off buying a Turner Flux[/i]

They must be good going by the comments on here, but I mean....look at it. Worse than a slapped fanny. And that's what matters with bikes ennit?

Aren't Ventana's just for old geezers?

Saw the Merlin offer. Only black with "raw" swing arm. Kind of like red front end 🙂 Still tempted mind. Don't know what training zones 4 and 5 are so maybe I shouldn't then. Was that not for the Nitrous? Only thing bad when I read about it is the price.

Who is that bloke above?

Getty Images! FFS 🙄

That bloke is Graham Turner no less. Distinguished footie manager from the 80's. 🙂

And yes, Ventana's are for old geezers, like me! 😀
Actually, I think the chaps who run Turner & Ventana used to work together or something way back. Chap we rode with in Wales has a Flux (I think) & reckons its excellent.

have you read the review of the new flux in the last-but-one shred magazine? It says it's great. And yes, it probably really really is!

But if you work out who wrote that particular review (and what his other job is) that might put you off. 🙁

*waves*

Not read it Julian. Who wrote it? What's his other job?

Narr, don't get one! I've just been out on a 14 mile loop on my DW Flux & I'm just not satisfied. I want to go round again, & again tomorrow, & further at the weekend.
Actually I just want to ride it all the time. So best not get one if you can't ride everyday.

after 4 years mine needs a new bushing in the main pivot and the name has worn off the down tube so def don't buy one. also the bottle cage bolt was shonky and wouldn't unscrew so can't use a bottle that is irritating.

But apart from that its the nuts and strangers are always really polite about it and admire it even though its normally covered in mud.

Who wrote it? What's his other job?

There used to be a sort of 'reader's/mates rides' section in Shred which had various semi-local-to-our-neck-of-the-woods folk showing off their pride and joy. One issue this featured someone who works for Silverfish, his lovely bike and also mentioned his comedy nickname in the piece. Then (somewhat foolishly IMO!) a few issues later they used the same nickname as the 'pen name' for the writer of the flux's glowing review. Did i mention that silverfish took on the distribution for Turner just a wee while before that? Good job it really [i]is[/i] a great frame eh?

(oh and couple of mates know him)

Its a small world down here in pastyland. 😆

Have been running a Horst link Flux since 2005, and it's bonkersly good. Very very happy. In fact, just been out tonight and will go out tomorrow and day after. More more more.

It's a shame Silverfish took over distribution. I know a couple of people who gave up trying to buy one because of them. I tried to go through them initially then gave up and went direct. Useless twunts (IMO and IME of course)

Aha, yes not very impartial.

Used to have a Horst 5 Spot then bought a TNT Flux in 2006, sold the Spot and still loving the Flux. Might get a newer version one day but unsure as still love riding the one I have.

Not sure what the problem is with Silverfish but it seems Turners are more readily available now (from CRC, Merlin) than they have ever been with previous distributers

Is this silver or raw.....

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Bigger pic here...

😕

Nuke- Thats silver

Thanks Sam

OK, This is raw,

Got the 4 bar version, fantastic bike, just so much fun, get one!

I've heard that, every time one is sold, ten baby seals are beaten to death...

I won't be a part of this madness. Neither should you.

Every time I go back to mine (05?) from the Ti29er, I remember why it's the weapon of choice at many of the trail centres and my longer distance adventures.

I was out on it last night and it makes my clumbsy riding look 1/2way competent. It never really feels quick (29ers always feel quick somehow), but timed sections tell otherwise, so did my ride mates last night once I'd waited for them !

It's an effortless ride and that's what makes it such a joy to be on - you'll start adding 1 or 2hrs to your routes once you have one & not be fatigued, I'm not sure how it does that TBH!

I've never read a bad word about them & they've got to one of the better looking bikes out there - I like the silver ones as above, in particular.

Is there any where that let's you demo them? Buying direct from CRC or Merlin without throwing a leg over could be foolish.

Don't know where I can demo one. Nowhere near me though. Would be a good idea before laying down £1420.

I've had two fluxs now.

Both were early models (early HL and early DW), both had cracks ... after 5000 miles of riding. Both were replaced under warranty. No other issues with bushings.

As for the comment about over-priced American .. above, twaddle. The price is in keeping with any high-end but 'asian-manufactured-should-be-cheaper-n-back-up' brand out there. But the product is actually done properly. I mention the cracks just for balance and the fact that it doesn't stop me from purchasing.

They are the almost perfect bike for me, I wouldn't buy anything else at the moment as the back-up is terrific and I would say being an early adopter can be problematic, but in both cases everything was sorted well.

Fast and comfortable, superb climbers.

Ive got a TNT version and LOVE it. Built up an insanely quick 29er but the Turner will always be in my stable. I think the newer ones have lost their looks but by all accounts the suspension is even better.

Buzzard what about combining the 29er and getting a Sultan rather than a Flux?

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Anybody else with experience of a Sultan? On the surface at least it looks all the things that make the Flux good are available on the Sultan.

gothandy

Have considered the Sultan and everything I read says its excellent but that new linkage is just plain fugly (IMHO). Think I'm going to hold on for the new Anthem x 29er that debuted at seaotter this year. imagine it will be signficantly cheaper than turner and looks the bomb. Will keep the Turner as the TNT is just that good IMO

I'm miles off replacing my 05 HL 5spot, but talking hypothetically, I was thinking that I might replace it with a flux.

Spending time on the mtbr Turner forum a while ago, I found a thread where DT explained to a rider of about my weight (200lbs) that he worked really hard to get the weight of the DW flux down, and the if you lazy-boyed all the big G-outs instead of attcked through them, you might find the TT and ST separating.

This is of course, not a flaw, since it relates to appropriate use, but its something to consider is you're a heavier gentleman.

Any opinions on how much the Flux can 'take', as it where? Are owners doing drops/jumps on their bikes?

Not taking anything massive but do come across the odd jump etc on the Surrey Hills where I would predominately want to use it...maybe also the odd trail centre.

I don't jump but often ride mine round the surrey hills or swinley if you want to met up and have a try. It is a medium dwlink flux with 100mm sid teams and is about 26lbs with Panaracer Fire XC USTs or 25 with normal Conti Mtn Kings.

There is a weight limit on my wheels apparently (just Hope Hoops - XC6 on Stans 355) so no clydesdales please!

I think the 2010 version has some extra welding around the BB area as there were cracks seen in the 08/09 versions - mine is an 09 🙁 but it hasn't cracked yet. Turner warranties are good though.

Cheers Andrew...I'd take you up on that but I've got to decide in the next couple of days or reckon I'll lose the price offered.

I do have 355 Hope Hoops so was thinking to put those on combined with some U-Turn Rebas I just got. Nice wide bars and a mid length stem. All very tempting but still want it to be in the right number of pieces at the end of Abba Zabba/Windy Willows/etc 😉

Maybe I should be looking at the 5-Spot 😕

A 5 Spot can be built pretty light.

I bought a 5 spot recently and love it. However, I think I should have bought a Flux instead but didn't because (stupid reason) my existing flow rims and pike fork were suited more to the 5spot. In reality both are great trail bikes, just the flux is a bit more xc and the 5 spot more am. As I've decided I want to do more enduro stuff the Flux would have been perfect and still plenty enough bike for the most extreme of my not very extreme type riding. 😡

Nail on head there Convert as I also happened to have some Fox 100-140 Talas and Flow rims that are currently destined for my PA hardtail although could equally be put on a 5-Spot. I've got the bits for a near perfect build for either Flux or 5-Spot but can't afford both so which to go for? Its a dilemma but admittedly not an awful dilemma 🙂

I've always been very much an XC rider and that's why the Flux appeals but since moving to Surrey Hills area I do find I'm seeking out more jumps, drops etc

Are the Surry Hills rocky ?

I have a 5 Spot and most of my riding is West Pennine Moors, Lakes etc and its perfect for me.

[i]Are the Surry Hills rocky ?[/i]

Nope.

Can be a bit rooty 😀

I've had a TNT Flux for four years and it's a good bike, build quality is superb and it has a lovely anodized finish which they no longer do sadly.

The frame including the shock is ludicrously light at 5.25lbs and the suspension works so well that it's too much bike for XC riding in the UK. It rides like it has a lot more travel and I have yet to find a fork that can fully match the stiffness and efficiency of the rear end.

I've spent two weeks in Whistler on this bike and it's survived everything my cack handed riding can throw at it. It's nimble, stable, stiff, light and well, just a very good bike.

In terms of weaknesses. I find Turner sizing isn't for me, their medium is too short in the reach and their large is too tall in terms of standover. So I opted for medium which makes climbing a chore at times, but makes for an infinately chuckable bike.

On my old TNT the chainstay yoke is a shelf that collects mud in a nice big pile until it starts to jam up the rear wheel.

Looking at the DW Link bikes when they held the recent demo day at Glyncorrwg, mud clearance looked rubbish. From a purely aesthetic point of view I think the DW bikes are ugly, but then so's my Orange Five:-)

had a xce for near six years, then sold it on, still working brilliantly then last year got a dw fliux, have done most of the trail centres in the uk plus some riding in spainish mountains, and over here in usa loads of races, trails etc, i can keep up with most bikes downhill and certainly uphill, my build is rockshox rev 130mm, xt, slx, thomson, hope not sure of weight but i prefer strength to lightweight, great bikes and when a squeak appeared a quick call to turner hq sorted it and a couple of new bolts sent out next day, will keep this for a few years then get another one

I've yet to see a light 5 Spot, but the Flux can be built to around 25lbs (possibly a little less?).

I see it as a 100mm travel bike both front & rear though as it's great on the climbs, so why sacrifice this with a 130mm or so front end?

It's not a weight-weenie bike / frame, it's too robust for that, but it's got just about every base covered & will give you years of service. The DW link is supposed to be the better of the sus' designs too.

Get on and buy one, you know you want to! 😉

I think Chain Reaction have had stock on 09s for a while at 1420, I paid 1500 for one from Sideways.

My turner and I have only looked at Abba Zabba, but it has done Windy Willows once the other Sunday with the muddy moles. It also did the red bull run at Coed y Brenin fine, and it will be on the hills again on saturday so if you see a red 09 flux it is probably me, almost definitely if you notice it has BB7 brakes.

The turner forum on mtbr seems to have more and more people using 120mm forks but I would think the climbing would suffer without a u-turn. I have a 0 degree rise stem as I found the 5 degree was too much.

The back end seems plenty capable so I would think a good fork would see you through the rough stuff without having to go to a 5-spot.

[i]Get on and buy one, you know you want to![/i]

Oh OK then

...it's ordered! Most I have ever spent on a frame 😯

[i]I've spent two weeks in Whistler on this bike and it's survived everything my cack handed riding can throw at it. It's nimble, stable, stiff, light and well, just a very good bike.[/i]

That's re-assuring as I am also a pro cack handed rider 😉

[i]I see it as a 100mm travel bike both front & rear though as it's great on the climbs, so why sacrifice this with a 130mm or so front end?[/i]

Agreed but I have Reba U-turns so best of both worlds IMO. Some people dislike travel adjust forks but I'm a big fan and wouldn't buy forks without now.

[i]my build is rockshox rev 130mm,[/i]

Interested in this as I happen to have a nice set of 2008 Rev U-Turns. Only thing is that isn't the Flux only warrantied up to 120mm?

[i]so if you see a red 09 flux it is probably me, almost definitely if you notice it has BB7 brakes.[/i]

I'll keep an eye out although I doubt mine will arrive before Saturday 🙁

Great frames. Backed by probably the best CS in the business. Enjoy.

I think they're ugly.

sorry.

What colour did you buy?

I run mine with coil u turn pikes, don't really care if it's considered wrong as the bike is so much fun. Seems to handle best at 120mm but sometimes wind them right out for steep stuff. Agreed that it climbs best at 95/100mm but 120mm seems to be a good compromise.

Great bikes. My Nomad never gets a look in the flux is so good for most UK riding.

Blinding fast and fantastic through more technical sections! Only negative on the DW link is a rather low bottom bracket when running 100mm forks.Seems a great excuse to buy some 120mm Sids though!
Thanx Max

This thread has me intrigued particularly after nodrog's comment on putting Pikes on his...

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=584065&highlight=all+mountain+flux

Certainly now considering putting 100-130mm U-Turn Revs on but still haven't found warranty info with regard to this. If it breaks warranty I'll just stick the 90-120mm U-Turn Rebas on.

[i]What colour did you buy? [/i]

Silver

Nuke - Classifieds - Silver FOX F120's QR15 - he's been trying to shift them for ages so he might come down.

Run F120's on mine, there perfect