[Closed] Solo night riding - MTFU?

I do it all the time. it's ok when you get used to it.
i do understand your apprehension though.

(if I didn't ride early/late I'd probably not ride at all)

What age are you?!

Lived in the Mendip area most of my life and done lots of solo night riding .You will get used to it in the end .Scared by the deer and badgers were you ?Movement in the undergrowth can make you jump a bit especially when your head torch picks out beasties eyes !!

I'm 27. And not normally scared of the dark. It was a mixture of rational 'If I have an off I'm ****ed' and irrational fear.

Yes, have seen the eyes when riding in a group, if you end up ahead/behind the group the eyes can be a bit scary, but it can be rationalised. Perhaps I have seen too many slasher movies?

stick some ID in your pocket and a spare jacket in winter and you'll be ok.

I ride around 120 miles a week in the dark in winter, it's no big deal.

What were you scared of?

Spare clothing is a good shout. Didn't think about that. Think I'm going to pick a clear night with a strong moon and have another crack.

Watsa matta? scared the seat will hurt your vagina?

[i]What were you scared of? [/i]

That's the problem - I dont know. I did text a brief route summary and return time to my mate - binning it on wet limestone was a concern, but it just felt like a 'scary' undertaking.

Back in the house it seems ridiculous now...

I should add I commute on road in the dark no problem, it was the prospect of riding off road that freaked me out!

Get a 650b, that way the trails you ride look like this:

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[i]Watsa matta? scared the seat will hurt your vagina? [/i]

Yes, but that happens in daylight too.

(Was this a quick edit?)

am I a massive wuss, or is night riding solo a scary proposition?

Oddly, you don't list my predominant fear which is crashing and incapacitating myself. Crashing badly on a solo ride is a bad enough proposition, but riding at night is more risky and crashing in the middle of nowhere at night when you're unlikely to have another human being pass by for at least 8 hours is pretty terrifying (which is only intensified if you've read Aaron Ralston's autobiography...)

So, always leave a route plan with an estimated time of arrival home.

Of course, if you've already done that and you've still pansied out, then yeah, you're a wuss 🙂

That's it! I'm still on 26" wheels. Thread closed.

Night riding solo is (initially) a scary proposition, and yes you are a massive wuss not to have tried it.
Easily put right though - Dress appropriately for the cold, lights good to go, tell someone where you are going, and get back out to the Mendips tomorrow night for some solo night-riding exhilaration 🙂

[i]Back in the house it seems ridiculous now[/i]

That's because it is 🙂

So, always leave a route plan with an estimated time of arrival home.

Do people really do this if they're riding solo???

Bomba - this did become a very pressing issue, hence texting my mate, but as he is 100 miles away, not sure how useful he would be...

Even someone in sh1t as deep as Joe Simpson was can make it back alive )

I never bother with a route plan, but generally encounter a mix of walkers, Dhers and horse riders on the Mendips so pretty happy I'd be found if I really hurt myself. In the pitch black and pissing rain this 'safety net' is removed, and his is the rational half of it.

Still think there is an irrational fear somewhere - gotta MTFU..

[i]stick some ID in your pocket and a spare jacket in winter and you'll be ok. [/i]

Depends, especially on where you are - and the weather.

I fell off yesterday, face-planted in Yair Forest up in the Borders. While it was only 3-ish the light was starting to fade and I did then stop to think what would've happened if I'd knocked myself out - it was below freezing and the likelihood of someone coming across me before the next morning pretty slim (I'd seen no one at all for the previous 2 hours).

We night ride every week, and where we go it's pretty certain you'd never be found until the next day, at the earliest, if you fell off big time on your own.

So, always leave a route plan with an estimated time of arrival home.

Do people really do this if they're riding solo???

If I'm night riding, absolutely. For peace of mind and as an insurance policy, it's such a quick and simple thing to do there's no reason not to do it.

Leave a rough route and ETA back home with someone reliable. Take a bit of extra warm kit and food. Or hook up with others? There's a new night group tide ride in the peak that was organised online. I'm sure you could do similar

You've covered the basics so can crack on. I've done many hours of dark fell running and biking it is more risky rhan day time but so atmospheric and quiet. Once you are used to it I'm sure you'll love it.

I commute across the Quantocks and work 12 hour shifts, so this time of the year most of my commutes are in the dark. I tend to stick to the lanes on the way to work and leave the offroad stuff for the trip home.
I suppose I've been doing it so long that I just take it for granted now. That said I have fallen off and broken my ankle up there on a warm summer evening solo ride, that was bad enough, if it had happened this time of year it could have turned nasty pretty quickly.

Thanks all. Some good advice and surprisingly more positive comments than I was expecting!

Think I'm going to have another crack next weekend

The fog would have put me off.

As a friend once told me, there's nothing out there at night that isn't there during the day. Its just best to remember at night they're hungry...

Stay on the road, keep clear of the moors.
Beware the moon.
😀

Jekkyl made me lmfao.

It's all in the mind when you start thinking more and more about it. Ive managed to scare myself walking down streets at night, making madness up in my head.

Everything just seems more intimidating at night aswell.

What happens when one solo nightrider comes across another solo nightrider in the woods or on the moors?

Perhaps I have seen too many slasher movies?

I ride on my own at night now and again on the Quantocks and Haldon, i also watch lots of horror films and i find i always start thinking about them during a ride 😳

It makes the hairs on your neck stand up but i just put it down to during the day you can see whats around you and at night you can't so it gets the imagination working overtime. The best one was the night one of the wild horses decided to sneak up on me on the Quantocks, nearly filled my shorts 😆

I've had the same sort of problem on occasion, which is a bit bizarre because I have spent sizeable swathes of my life living out of doors in remote places..

The best way that I've found to combat it is to start the ride sometime [i]before[/i] sunset and then by the time it gets dark you're already pumped up on adrenaline and endorphins and all that, and ready to rip any zombies/lions/axe murders apart with your bare teeth

I night ride a lot solo mostly in the Peak. I carry ID and a phone, usually ride trails I know already and tackle techy stuff with a little more caution than normal, but you do just get used to it. Now it feels kind of comfortable and familiar.

I don't see why people worry about weird stuff in the middle of nowhere. If you were a criminal or a deranged murderer, why would you potter about Cut Gate in the middle of the night waiting for a solo mountain biker to appear?

I don't think it's a MTFU thing anyway, just about making rational judgments and accepting a level of risk that you're happy with. If you're not happy, don't do it

The best one was the night one of the wild horses decided to sneak up on me on the Quantocks, nearly filled my shorts

just wait until you encounter the huskies...

Wuss. I ride alone 3 times a week at midnight in the deepest darkest forest. (swinley). Always empty which is cool as I hear that during the day it is heaving. Very occasionally see a headlight in the distance but never bumped into anyone yet.

I ride twice a week alone. Leave a note with someone you trust to note the time you should have been back by and where to search from. Otherwise much the same risk as riding in daytime somewhere remote/exposed.

I just had my first solo night ride in about a decade. It was amazing, words fail me. I've only used lights a handful of times in the last few years because I can ride when I like but a new baby stopped that for just now. A dog jumped me when I was trying to set up a photo but other than that I was very relaxed. I had plenty of clothes and a charged phone. My partner knew which mountain I was on but not my actual route, I did know that I would have signal in that area though. I walked one exposed bit and general speeds were way slower than normal so I think it's actually safer than solo day riding for me. High perceived risk often makes stuff safer in that way ime.
So, yeah man up. Not riding is a far scarier prospect than riding in sub optimal conditions! 🙂

Sorry but yes, MTFU. It's a pootle across some barely remote hills.

Far more likely to get knocked off riding back on the main road.

I ride solo at night in the winter about four times a week. As Badlywiredog says, why would the axe wielding murderer be after you?
I am out walking two dogs normallly and one of them is a huge deerhoud and he is a comfort (scary but useless). You get used to it and riding with no lights and moonshadow is really worth it.
Hello Doug, we were talking about you last night and when we were coming out to Spain again. Decided on another year in Wales, we are so dull!
Maybe next year!

Hey Eddie, my ears were burning! It would be great to see you again but I know it's hard to get it all lined up. Maybe take out some lights next time for some nocturnal uplift 🙂

just wait until you encounter the huskies...

We saw them in Greatwood last weekend when the sled racing was on but it was during the day though. Only recently realized they did an evening race, that could be a bit scary on a solo night ride seeing a group of rabid hungry wolves heading towards you (which is what they would have turned into had i encountered them at night 😆 )

I ride solo at night all the time. I don't have a tv, I have probably watched about 8 movies in my life and don't read. My mind is a blank canvas for solo night riding :O)

However,I have watched Dog soldiers many years ago and I think you should view this image to keep in the back of your mind for the next solo night ride ;O)

(worksafe)

Tbh I pants myself just commuting back down a couple of dark lonely cycle routes at 11pm when all I can think of is crackheafds out to nick my bike and phone.
Joke's on them, my phone is crap.

Ridgeway night rides soon on my commute. Better than nocturnal pissheads on the road heading back after a lock in.