Looking for recommendations please. Need a 35-40 mm road tyres. Needs to be tubeless, minimal tread and not silly expensive. Got some Schwalbe S ones ( G One Speed nowadays) which are fine but not available in 40mm tubeless. The "normal" G ones are but I have my doubts about how long they will last, how draggy they are and they are bloody pricey.
Challenge Strada Bianca Race. [url] http://road.cc/content/review/196793-challenge-strada-bianca-race-33 [/url]. I have the 33s but I'm sure I read they were coming out in something larger. Think they are about £30, make sure you get the right model.
I don't know if you're supposed to officially but I've been running them tubeless quite happily on stans crests and WTB KOM rims at 50psi for a couple of summers (cross tyres go back on for winter). Go like the clappers on tarmac, continue to do so on unmade roads and can just about handle 'proper' off-roading (for a cross bike) if it's properly dry.
As far as the size goes I wouldn't turn down something larger (I have looked at Compass tyres but they're really rather expensive) but tbh these are really plenty for what I'm going to call 'all purpose road'.
I have vittoria voyagers, 37mm and run tubeless with pumping up regularly.
I'm a bit lost as to why anyone needs 35-40mm road tyres
To stop the rims sliding around on the tarmac.
G One alrounds are actually pretty fast on the road. I ran the 40c version for over 1000 mile and they were hardly worn at all.
Marathon supremes roll faster and are available in 35 and 40c, currently using these, grippy and comfortable when run tubeless at 40-45psi.
There is a 35c and 40c g one speed in the pipeline but I can't find stock anywhere at the moment.
They still go really fast on tarmac because of the lack of tread (faster, according to some- Jan Heine has done a lot on it [url] https://janheine.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/12-myths-in-cycling-1-wider-tires-are-slower/ [/url]) but they are also really fun for charging around on unmade roads, rubbish roads, dry trails and dare I say it, gravel roads (if you want to be fashionable).
In my opinion, they're what road tyres should always have been- it's just the 28s I tried back in the day were always armoured up touring tyres that rode terribly so I resigned myself to having to run tyres that should be consigned to the track until fairly recently.
@anagallis_arvensis depending where you ride there can be a lot broken/rough road surfaces, and the bigger volume tyres are not only much more comfortable, but actually faster too. I went to the local APR last year on my charge plug with 38c's as my race bike was in the shop, was slower on good surfaces for sure, but theres a couple of rough sections where i usually struggle to stick with the bigger more powerful riders, but on that day the big tyres just glided over it and keeping up was easy.
@OP, how about a marathon supreme?
I’m a bit lost as to why anyone needs 35-40mm road tyres
Because roads ain't what they used to be.
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Faster rolling and more comfortable, reduced chance of pinch-flats. Win/win/win? Ok aerodynamics and acceleration are affected, but... what are you using them for?
26 x 2 Marathon Supremes and delighted with them.
Fast, light for the build and protection, great feel.
The width and volume just means that even on a very solidly built tourer, you can just tune out most road surfaces.
No point in being uncomfortable. Can't see any downsides apart from a bit of weight.
The 1.8's are nice too.
If you can fit a 42, Specialized Sawtooth are really rather good. Tubeless ready & pretty cheap.
I use 38mm g ones on my road/off road bike and will happily ride them on road if its a solo ride but they are slower. But they are certainly not a road tyre. Widest I've gone for road slicks are 32mm Spesh Espoirs. TBH 28mm is more than enough for any road and fine off road if its dry.
Does anyone have any actual proper evidence that 35-40mm tyres roll faster on road as I reckon if it was as obvious as people here are making out then team sky might not have botherwd with the inhalers!
Ta.
Want a tyre to do one job. Ride a lot of gravel and my older stuff is wearing out. Slicks are fine for gravel but also for touring. Got plenty of 30's including some Strada Biancas but those are rather fragile. Had a pair delaminate in a couple of thousand miles and the importer told me that I had had my moneys worth and they were Sunday best tyres. Think he was a bit gloomy. H e did send me another pair though. Never thought they would run tubeless. I'll try that.
Sadly the Pickenflick won't take a really big tyre at the back.
Plan is also to use them for the TINAT event where I know the Claerwen Dam lane is a touch rough.
Also I just fancy something different.
Wider tyre rolls better because the contact patch changes to being perpendicular to your direction of travel, but the extra aero drag when you cycle at ~15+ mph will slow your journeys down, compared to 25/28mm tyres that smoothly blend into your bike's rim.
Panaracer Gravel Kings, maybe the SKs? They size up by approx +3mm, were a decent price at PX recently.
Yay, edit works again... Even several hours after posting! \o/
Also forgot to mention the extra weight of wider tyres will be a factor too, on a hilly route.
"Want a tyre to do one job. Ride a lot of gravel"
G-ones then
G-one is a great tyre, but I did get quite a high wear rate on my rear, was done after 1500 miles
Challenge do two versions of the Strada Bianche; the open tub version with the natural walls and carcass which will not go up tubeless, and a black rubber version which may though not recommended.
Gravel King SK go up tubeless easy but aren't quick rolling.
I bought these. Now just a £10 and I think they are just what you asked for
https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/vittoria-voyager-hyper-folding-tyre
Have been great in every way
Even do well on the rolling drum of misinformation
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/tour-reviews/vittoria-voyager-hyper-2016
Currently trying out some WTB Riddler 37C tyres on my singlespeed. Set up tubeless. Very plush on road, even the trail centre inspired ones round here, not a huge amount slower than the 28C road tyres that were on before but they are a more gravel oriented tyre.
(Ooh! Edit works 🙂 )
Edit: I probably wouldn't use the Riddlers on routes with more than about 40% (guess) of tarmac. They'd be fine on the Claerwen dam track though.
As mentioned above the Vittoria hyper voyagers are a good shout. Not officially tubeless but people have run them that way. I used tubes on the 35c, which come up large, and it was no slower than the 28c cheap kenda tyres my bike came with. 35c and 38c are £15 from the link above, good value for what they are.
FWIW I use these in 37mm and I like them. Not sure whether they can be tublessified, though.
Rose, Merlin and bike-mailorder.de all have the 35 & 40 g-one speeds, just ordered some 40c ones to try
G One speeds in 40mm tubeless version? Didn't know they did them. The standard G ones are not long lasting enough with that tread although the Speeds are much better.
I am very much an advocate of slicks or as near as possible on gravel. Grip is never an issue.
I'd get Compass Barlow Pass but they don't really meet your "not silly expensive" criteria.
What width rims are best for 35 -40no tyres?
Current Are 17mm Internal
My 40mm Nanos run nicely on 21mm inner widths
Have never got my Strada Biancas to even start to work tubeless. They sit flat on the rim with the beads almost touching each other. Both my sets were the black ones which are the open tubulars. (as well as the amber ones) Getting a tube in even is a whole different game to normal tyres.
I've used 40c nanos on up to 23mm rims. Up to that point, wider seems to have no downsides for the tyre so far. Happy on 21 though.
I've not tried the open tubular type, but the 'normal' ones have been about as effective as other 'not properly tubeless tyres' i.e. took a little bit to get sealed initially but since have been fine.
anagallis arvensis, did you read the jan heine stuff I linked to?
Briefly...they avoided talking about aero effects over 32mm so its not helpful. Also my question at the top was to try and understand what the op wanted and meant by road tyre and it seems he meant a road/off road tyre. I have 32mm road tyres and 38mm road/off road so am not against wider tyres but I stand by the fact that on road 28mm are fine more if comfort is needed over speed.
Sorry, not clear. I want a road tyre. Slick and tubeless. However for crappy roads, which include gravel, big fat un's are nice. I use 30s but fancy t+1
Have never got my Strada Biancas to even start to work tubeless. They sit flat on the rim with the beads almost touching each other. Both my sets were the black ones which are the open tubulars. (as well as the amber ones) Getting a tube in even is a whole different game to normal tyres
Yep got some of the tan open tubulars as you say ‘interesting’ getting a tube in.
Hopefully they’ll ease up a bit and take some shape as I reckon you want them tubeless or carry sealant can.I don’t fancy fitting a tube on the side of the road with these puppies going with the ease of initial installation 🙂
I've got Compass Switchback Hill 48s on my 650b drop bar bike and they're very smooth, fast enough for a club run (which is what I'll be doing tomorrow morning) and with immense levels of grip. Herself is current riding Barlow Pass 38s - we rode Tuscany Roads on them and they worked very well). Hers have done nearly 2,000 miles with no problems.