They are priced too high though.
Even if you break it down. As above, your prices are full rip, when you can get all that for 30% less in reality.
Plus buying a full bike should always save you over the seperate parts.
The 7 is probably the best buy, as ready to go.
The 5 is good if you want rigid.
I got a good deal on the 5 and would not cost me much more than a 7 to upgrade it to that spec with pro fork (and still have a rigid fork spare). Plus I prefer the colour to the purple.
Having said that, I love the bike. Everything is perfect but the cost.
Ride report on the 5?
We need ride reports
yamy -how do you reckon you can get the bike for 30% less?
I think he means if you were to buy all the bits separately new....
Has anyone actually ridden a 5 yet?
[quote=yamaha46 ]They are priced too high though.Not if folk are buying them
Do Trek sell the 5 as frame and fork option?
Just the black frame only, I believe, no fork
Yes 30% off is standard for most parts, I meant. CRC.
From what i've read, the 5 is steeper geometry due to the shorter rigid fork, so won't handle the rough stuff as good. But is really light weight thanks to the carbon fork.
Will find out soon when I get mine.
Suspension fork will probably follow at some point though.
What size have you ordered, Yamaha?
The HA is indeed 'steep' as well as 'low' which seems to translate for me as as a heavy front and weight forward
Interested in this bike but am waiting for feedback from folk with seat-time
I think my mate is out on his tonight...I'm on duty, so can't go with him. I can tell you this, that the front end is not heavy by any means...I had a 2 minute ride around today and can confirm that I wanted to steal it! :0) mine should be here for the weekend though, and it will be getting a good spanking, hopefully round Epping forest.
Is the carbon fork 110mm "boost"?
Carbon fork is standard 100mm spacing, not boost...only the bouncy forks are boosted to 110
Isn't it a fatbike with thin tyres ?
I've fancied a Stache 5 for a while now, this thread isn't helping matters...
The problem I had was that Trek don't have (or at least didn't have when I asked) a demo bike suitable for my lanky self.
Has anyone anywhere near Dundee got a 19.5" or 21.5" I could have a quick spin on?
"What size have you ordered, Yamaha?"
19.5" same as you stedlocks.
Nice one :0)
Just a quick update.....mine arrived at the shop (about an hours drive ) today, and I managed to get someone to cover me so I could pick it up tonight! It is a 19.5" and has only had the rear tyre set up tubeless at the moment...the front still has a tube till tomorrow, when I'll sort that out. With all the crap reflectors on and without pedals, it weighs 26.5lbs....not too shabby!
I haven't ridden it in anger yet, but my mate, who also got one on the cycle to work scheme has.....he came back grinning from ear to ear and speaking faster than I could listen! The gist of it was that it was very good! I'll put a ride report here when I actually get to use it.
It's sooo pornworthy though!
By the way, the 18.5" doesn't have the reinforcing bar between the top tube and seatpost, but mine does.....I couldn't find that out anywhere online
How tall are you?
I demoed the 18 & 19.
Both felt good, but had 80mm stems. As I like a shorter stem I went for the 19. I'm 5'11".
Mines come in too. 😀
Just swaping a few parts over and Heli tapping it.
I'm 6', but have a short body and long legs....I'll be putting a slightly longer stem on.
Pics?
Updates?
First off, I've never written a review, but ive read a few, so I'll give it a bit of a go!
Me.
I'm a 46 year old bloke, who has been riding bikes my whole life.....I don't do jumpy stuff as a rule, as I break easily nowadays and it takes a lot longer to heal! I ride long distance xc and do a bit of bikepacking, normally when I go to see interesting things/places. My main bike is a salsa spearfish, and it's taken a couple of years to get it perfect for me.
The trek
I feel very lucky that I picked the correct size.....I am 6' tall, but have a short body and long legs, which puts me normally right between sizes....I picked a 19.5", and the fit is perfect......honestly, almost like a custom frame :0)
I took it out today on its first ride.....set up tubeless, but with m-520 pedals on, it weighed 26.5lbs. I have since added a brooks cambium and a set of titec J bars and an old crud catcher....I didn't weigh it, but it's probably a bit more now.
The ride today
I went on a normal loop that I do regularly, down to my mums house in waltham abbey, then on to my sister's house in Loughton, with a bit of a blast round Epping forest, total of 55 miles, with about 85% off road. The first bit of canal is very sticky at the minute, then cindery after about 15 miles.
I set off, into a pretty stiff headwind, before getting onto the canal......it was very tough, and I thought I might have dropped a ricket with the stache, as I was struggling to keep a decent speed and 'hunting' through the gears to get a cadence that felt good. I stopped a couple of times to adjust the tyre pressure, as I thought that might help......I started with them way too soft, so much so, that the rear was squirming in the bends.....I don't know what pressure, but I estimate around 10psi? Anyway, I pumped em up a bit at a time, until I was at around 15-18 psi, I would guess, and I seemed to find a bit of a sweet spot.....the comfort remained, the speed picked up, and all was well in the world! Since checking Strava, my speed seemed to be about 2kph down....normally, I ride off road at about 21kph and I was at nearly 20 over the whole 55miles......I'm happy with that!
Anyway, the traction is ridiculous......seriously! It will go up anything (if your legs will), but I will invest in a wide ratio cassette (11-42) when this one wears out, to give me a bail out gear.
Once in epping forest, it got really stupid.....the leaves were covering the trails, so I was struggling to pick a line at times, but the stache didn't care....I ended up hitting drops and jumps that I would never normally attempt, let alone throw some shapes off the top of! It was like being 14 again, with my raleigh burner, and a milk crate with a plank of wood up it, jumping some mates :0)
Anyway, enough from me now, as it's probably a shite review, but suffice to say that I am very happy with my stache 5, and will ride through winter, happy in the knowledge that I have bought well!
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Hope I haven't killed the thread.....I just wanted to put some info out there, as there is nothing UK based! :0)
I have a Stache 7 and want some rigid forks. Tempted to order the Bontrager bowie from the 5, but they are not boost and I dont want to swap hubs really. Anyone seen anything else suitable?
Nice review stedlocks.
One word sums up the stache... FUN 😀
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Have you done much on yours? It's my daughters birthday today, so no riding, but I'm out again tomorrow!
One word sums up the stache... FUN
That's very true, I'm really liking mine, I'm riding more just to get out on it.
The HA is indeed 'steep' as well as 'low' which seems to translate for me as as a heavy front and weight forward
Stop looking at the numbers! picking something to bits based on paper is daft. Try and ride one, as I said, it's not what you think it'll be. Trek can design a bike you know... 🙂
The key things I need to know is how rider's weight is balanced on the Stache 5 and how that translates to how much weight is on the front
And other thing is how agile this bike (and 29+ in general) is with those mahoosive hoops - especially when compared to 27+
Your weight feels very neutral and it is easy to move about to distribute it where you want...for instance, when going up technical, rooty, muddy, leafy climbs in epping, I could pop my front wheel up and plant it, exactly where I wanted. On the twisty, technical descents, I could turn in, unweighted the rear, and hop it around, without fear of the back end stepping out or flexing the brakes on!
It's very flickable, yet massively stable......did anyone mention how much ****in Traction there is?
Going to bed early now, and out for a play tomorrow!
Really like the look of these... N+1 and all that 😉
Most people seem to be picking the rigid fork one - is that just because the price is most competitive, or 29+ doesn't benefit as much from suspension?
Also - what's 29+ like in mud? Conventional wisdom is a skinny tire for muddy conditions (Panaracer Trailrakers for me!).
I've looked at these and to be honest I'm a bit confused by the frame sizing, why is there 2 sizes on the frame?, i.e. 17.5'' actual size 18.5'' (or the other way round) I don't get it???
I've looked at these and to be honest I'm a bit confused by the frame sizing, why is there 2 sizes on the frame?, i.e. 17.5'' actual size 18.5'' (or the other way round) I don't get it???
It's Trek's way of dealing with the sloping top tube on a mountain bike. Bit less of a big deal these days now that sloping top tubes are pretty common across all ranges. Is a bit of a hangover from 'back in the day', when Treks came with VW logos on the seat stays.
[url= http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/support/faq/question/can_you_explain_the_virtual_sizing_on_some_of_your_mountain_bikes/ ]http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/support/faq/question/can_you_explain_the_virtual_sizing_on_some_of_your_mountain_bikes/[/url]
And other thing is how agile this bike (and 29+ in general) is with those mahoosive hoops - especially
Very agile indeed.
As I think I've already said somewhere in this thread, I've never got on with 29" wheels because they always felt ponderous and slightly disconnected to me. But someone somewhere (Gary Fisher?? 😉 ) has managed to get this thing to turn in quickly and precisely and yet keep the traditional 29er advantages people love, but then add in a silly amount of grip.
I come from motorcycling and I like to lean a bike over and have it stay put, but the MTBer in me likes fast handling, and the Stache does this. It's not an XC race bike, it's not an enduro bike, it's not an adventure bike, it IS a fun bike. I work in a Trek dealers, yes, but we sell other brands too and I've sold and worked on most things. It's easy to get jaded when your life is bikes, but this thing seriously has impressed everyone that's ridden it. All the staff have taken the demo bike out and come back smiling. We love it, honestly we do. We want you to buy one!
Those big hoops are the key and Trek/Bontrager have got them right. All the models use the same rims and tyres, and that's got to be worth noting. No scrimping where it counts. The wheels are actually remarkably light for their size, and light wheels always help. They come with tubes but also have tubeless rim strips fitted and ready to go, and come with the valves too (I'm assuming all three models do since the rims are the same) so loose the tubes and improve it further. If I was buying one I'd make sure the shop set the tubeless up at PDI stage to be honest.
And I'll tell you one thing - I've never ridden a bike that's attracted so much attention form other riders.....
Good feedback PP - thanks
First, what is PDI?
Your demo/test sled is a 7 isn't it, or at least the HT version of Stache?
The general consensus from feedback here and elsewhere (MTBR too where the bikes have been around for some time) is all good for the HT's, but there's little to no e-reportage of the rigid 5 which is the bike I am very interested in and being the 29 plus platform
Of course there's going to be similarities and I take that as good, but it's Trek's execution of the Rigid which I would like to try - it all looks good, my only reservation is how the front feels weight wise
I have asked my LBS if they can arrange a demo, so finger's crossed 🙂
I'm near stansted airport if you want a spin.........
Thanks, that's good of you to offer. I'm in the Midlands though
More photos please... 🙂
More pictures you say?
Oh, go on then :0)
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Brilliant pic - so many angles
Any more gush after today's ride?
Next to ideal riding conditions for such a macheine
Here's mine, first ride went on for a bit longer than intended. Lucky I brought a set of lights!
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Which one of you lot was riding a stache 5 through Farley green at lunchtime today?
@bonesetter even though the initial 'new bike' blurred vision has past, it is still an excellent bike! I've found myself tinkering with tyre pressures a lot....a couple of pumps make them much faster for dry stuff, whilst you can let a bit out for the gloop or bumpy stuff..... I'm not sure if I've got a buckle in the front rim now though...might just have been not tensioned correctly.....I had a tyre slip off a footy bit with a 'pop'. It might have been a small burp, but I can't work out how to get the through axle in my home made wheel jig! I'll play later
He he
Yeah, I'm taking the newer feedback with the caveat of honymoon in mind 🙂
I am in the process of getting a 5 demo from the LBS, who although are Trek dealers say they cannot arrange one. Thought that was a service a lbs provided, but maybe I'm wrong...
Tyre pressure tinkering is the new shock & fork tinkering - whereas before with 2.1 to 2.3/4 tyres you had a large window of psi, with the fatter it comes down to a couple of psi sweetspot
Mine's arriving Wednesday 😛
Finger slipped 🙄
