[Closed] Skidding - Good or bad?

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/aaaaaagh-halfords-mtb-ads-on-tdf-coverage

Id complain to Halfords, not the ASA, [i]if[/i] you feel strongly enough.

The ASA wont give a ****

Sometimes, the only thing that will do is a hoofing great big long skid, sideways at the end with some opposite lock. It can be very satisfying.

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Anyone got link to the french blokes on the DH run backing it into every corner? He has the skid just about right.

Dont think I've ever found a situation where a skid was helpful other than a seriously tight switchback in the alps, and even then I'd say I did that because I didnt ahve the skill to attack it properly.

Whether I'd complain - not so sure, most trail users I see dont skid pointlessly and I cant see anyone other than 14 year old boys being influenced?

[i]I've complained. Should you too? Or am I wrong? Is this the way to ride?
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/about/ [/i]

PMSL. i'm sure the ASA love it when a nutter gets in touch.

skidz r 4 kidz

Skids are great! The corners in that halfords ad are definitely there to be skidded round imo.

IanMunro - Member
Skids are great! The corners in that halfords ad are definitely there to be skidded round imo.

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[i]Dont think I've ever found a situation where a skid was helpful[/i]

Vicky Banton thought it was very cool! (about 25 years ago 😆 )

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WGAS?

If you people really have nothing better to do than complain to ASA about someone skidding on a 5 second advert I worry! You're as bad as the people who complained about Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross weeks after the event having not even heard the broadcast!

Sometimes, the only thing that will do is a hoofing great big long skid, sideways at the end with some opposite lock.

Too bloody right...

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vinnyeh where is that? I used to race cycle speedway in the early 80's

Though not much skidding with no brakes!!!

On groomed trail centre trails- skids are bad. Bridleways like in the Lakes- why not? Their make up changes as a bigstorm comes in etc so why not? It helps you understand when a bike lets go etc?

Skids are for kids? also for big kids looking to have a big grin!

I do disagree with the big banners from these guys: http://povertyover.christianaid.org.uk/

Its impossible to eradicate poverty sadly.

Turning the bike with the back wheel is definitely the fastest way around some bends - not that I'm competent at this particular method mind 🙂

Bottom of Walna Scar on a big patch of grass I grabbed the back brake thinking it would be a lame wibble and I spun 180degrees facing the way I'd come down. I couldnt stop giggling!!!

Skidding is very helpful, in that it alllows you to spot people with very limited riding skills.

Even on this thread we have people who don't know the differance between skidding and drifting!

Have you taken the stablizers off yet?

skids rule !!!

they make one look awesome on T trails and piss off the trail builders

Even on this thread we have people who don't know the differance between skidding and drifting!

Pedant!

tinsy, in Oz.

Bridleways like in the Lakes- why not? Their make up changes as a bigstorm comes in etc so why not? It helps you understand when a bike lets go etc?

My Mother likes rambling/walking etc- has seen inconsiderate idiots on bikes on bridleways let alone footpaths. No. Please let walkers enjoy walking without the fear of someone riding down at any speed.

IMO Skidding on a Bridleway would suggest you are inconsiderate and not exactly endearing yourself to walkers??? No???

When I was a kid back in the 70's we used to spend hours having skidding competitions. Consited of fast as you can slam on rear brake + skid. Location was a local cinder road (so no damage to the environment). The local bike shop used to sell lots of rear tyres.

Let's bring back organised skidding comps along the lines of car drifting. Of course it would have to take place on a purpose built track etc. The bike industry would love it XC -bikes, AM-Bikes, DJ-bikes, FR-Bikes, SS-Bikes, Slope Style Bikes & the latest Skid Bikes 16" rear rotor, slick tyres etc. Clothing manufactures could even start making skid mark shorts.

"Even on this thread we have people who don't know the differance between skidding and drifting!

Pedant!"

Thanks for giving evidence in favour of the "some people don't know the differance" case.

Maybe you could get one of those MTBing for beginners DVD's 😀

Vinnyeh couple of bloke from my club used to ride in OZ in Britain V Oz matches.

Skidding - a thing so simple that 4 year olds can do it very easily.

Riding quickly, quietly, smoothly and leaving no marks - proper riding that actually takes some skill and finesse.

Everyone must go their own way I guess - I'm just surprised that anyone would ride with all the skill of a 4 year old in public, except actual 4 year olds. I for one will certainly ridicule anyone that I see skidding about the place.

saw a sign at one of the 7stanes ..
"skidds cost quids"

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Bike drift-tastic.

I rode a section of the Tamarancho Trail behind Jacqui Phelan. She never skidded once on the whole descent, very flowy and smooth. I felt humbled every time my brakes locked up.

speshpaul, funny, cos I thought skidding didn't require brakes- skidded on ice etc.

I could probably do with one of those beginners dvd's - I still seem to be riding the same sort of trails that I was thirty years ago, just with a mtb rather than a cruiser or road bike.

I have been doing extreme stunts to the max since like forever. I once did a skid that lasted 2 weeks.

I rode a section of the Tamarancho Trail behind Jacqui Phelan. She never skidded once on the whole descent, very flowy and smooth. I felt humbled every time my brakes locked up.

On Top Gear I watched the Caterham R500 go round the track and can honestly say it was one of the best (and exciting) laps that Ive seen on the Topgear track. Smooth and 'toight is soo bloody dull compared 😀

"skidding" is good because you learn the limits of traction and also how to control the bike when it looses traction

grabbing your back brake and locking your rear wheel isn't any good, but a wet slick leaf strewn road and a bike with slicks is.

you don't need brakes (you might call that "drifting" then)

try riding switchbacks fast with the back end out, that is faster than the "other" line.....

if you are riding fast enough, your tyres WILL loose traction - FACT!

watch sam hills cornering technique for how its done

I hope those whom have complained are also going to complain to the correct bodies about the latest issue of Singletrack? Funny none of you have mentioned the rider on the cover pulling a skid. Double standards i see, let us know when you've done so Chalkyslide

Just to help a few of you out

Skidding is where your rear wheel is not turning, due to the brake being applied.

Drifting/ backing in, is where a degree of traction is lost allowing the rear wheel to slide. But the wheel is still turning. You do this on a MTB by changing body position and unweighting the rear wheel.

The 1st is losing control, ie you've over braked to the point where you have lost traction and not corrected it by reducing pressure on the rear brake.

The 2nd is a method of cornering allowing to to take a tighter line. Requiring skill, and control.

Reamember, Leave no trace.

[i]The 1st is losing control[/i]

Except it isn't if it's intentional.

If it is intentional you are a pillock.

so a little bit of turf or soil gets flicked up it's hardly the biggest envionmental concern of the 21st century.

It definitely would be a big concern if everyone did it. Fortunately it is the moronic minority.

all 6 billion people in a simultaneous skid, how could that fail to be cool.

Skidding and drifting are the samething. One is a 70's term and the other is a 90's term linked with Fastandthefurious etc.

I'm with jamesca - agree.

The only thing more cool than that would be for everyone to start trolling simultaneously.

I always make a point of applauding people who intentionally skid at trail centres, there's no need whatsoever

Does drifting erode a trail?? surely it must, in which case people who go too fast and drift all over the place are just as moronic as the skidiots 😉

It's hardly the most heinous crime in the world, trails are eroded all the time by walkers, horses, cars, bikes, shit even animals and the weather erode the trails we all use.

There are more important things to worry about

[i]If it is intentional you are a pillock.[/i]

Untwist your knickers and have some fun.

Again, doesnt mountainbiking in part create erosion anyway and isnt part of the fun of mountain biking riding eroded obstacles or features within trails?"!!!