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32t with a 42t lets me climb the really steep stuff too and I am 48.
yep, I'm in Calderdale (proper winch and plummet country) and that's what I use.
And compared to a 3x9 system, it's basically the same as losing the lowest ratio and throwing away the big ring.
Not limiting.
Both merely have different compromises. Limited range vs. mud/ice clearance.
Agreed - I only ever used the big ring on the road so zero loss - and losing a ratio made me fitter, very quickly. Actually you don't even have to lose a ratio with a 46.
So no, for me the range is not limited, it's smaller but not where I needed it anyway.
I am quite happy if someone else has different priorities and do need to do 50kph off road though. I have nothing against 2-ring or 3-ring sets ups, like 99.99% of 1-ring users.
nickc - Member
32t with a 42t lets me climb the really steep stuff too and I am 48.
yep, I'm in Calderdale (proper winch and plummet country) and that's what I use.
As do I and I pretty much only ride 32*20 or 32*19. Few things I can't ride up round here that others on 1x 2x 3x systems can't.
Gears are irrelevant if you've legs strong enough to pedal harder. Most riders would benefit from maybe getting stronger and lighter than worrying about what gears they are/aren't running compared to others.
*highfive for Bez*
SS FTW. Unless I'm tired, then I'll push 😉
I'm in the 'I don't care, use what's best for you' camp.
I'm currently on 3x9 but I'm toying with going 2x9 on a new frame I have.
I do do a mixture of riding though, including on, heaven forbid, tarmac downhill and there's been occasions where I've spun out going over 30mph.
So I'm happy with the range, and I'd be tentative about reducing it.
I could get away with 2 front rings I think.
I really don't mind what others like, the Mrs has 1x11 and I like the idea of getting rid of the front shifter and mech, but I'm not sure I want the extra expense as my current drive chain is ok for me.
What I'd really like is a 10t 9 speed cassette. 😀
Tempted to try it on the XC bike but it's a lot of expense for not much gain really. The bike works fine.
Why do you want a 10t 9sp cassette? Just fit a bigger chainring?
I use a 26T oval chainring and 11-42 cassette on my LV 301 and I think that it's pretty much the ideal set-up for where and what I ride.
Either that or I'm on a singlespeed, geared 32:20.
I use a 26T oval chainring and 11-42 cassette on my LV 301 and I think that it's pretty much the ideal set-up for where and what I ride.
Do you feel like the 26t oval gives you a 'virtual' range of a 24 + a 28 or is that just bollocks & hype? I'm tempted to give an oval ring a shot.
With an oval chainring your gearing is just the same as with a round chainring with the same number of teeth. What changes is the perceived effort at varying points in the cycle so when you are using the narrow axis it will "feel" like a couple of teeth less, i.e. 24T instead of 26T, and when you are using the wide axis it will feel like a couple of teeth more - 28T.
What changes is the perceived effort at varying points in the cycle so when you are using the narrow axis it will "feel" like a couple of teeth less, i.e. 24T instead of 26T, and when you are using the wide axis it will feel like a couple of teeth more - 28T.
Not really about the number of teeth more about the leverage (ie not just perceieved but actual).
What I'd really like is a 10t 9 speed cassette
9t ok?
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cassettes/shimano-capreo-csf700-9-speed-cassette-926t/
I actually think that it feels more "round" than a normal ring, probably because the dead spots aren't as "dead", if you see what I mean. I'm liking it anyway and when it wears out I'll replace it with another with the same tooth count, as I'm finding that works well for me too.
Some might think (and have told me as much) that having a highest gear of 26:11 is ridiculously low but I'm not bothered about hammering along on tarmac or flat fireroads and, probably due to riding SS's a lot, I can spin high cadences well enough, so that compensates a bit maybe.
What I'd really like is a 10t 9 speed cassette.
+1 or 10t 10 speed
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Just fit a bigger chainring?
Love to if someone made one 🙄
probably due to riding SS's a lot
Yep, 26/11 would be high for a singlespeed and I run around that on my road fixed (which is very low for road but I ride a lot of uphill fireroads too)
But then having ridden solely fixed/singlespeed for over 15 years I am at a total loss why firstly anyone would need 10/12/12 gears and secondly why they would care so much about missing one gear higher or lower.
@Andy_r - for those of use that aren't blessed with perfect pedalling technique 😳 oval rings do feel "more round". I notice it most on long sustained climbs rather than short punchy ones but perhaps "notice" is the wrong way of putting it, I don't notice the rhythmic thrum, thrum of the tyres that you (I) get with round chainrings.
Love to if someone made one
How big do you want? TA do up to 50T.
I am at a total loss why firstly anyone would need 10/12/12 gears and secondly why they would care so much about missing one gear higher or lower.
Seriously? You can't imagine why someone would want a lower gear on a hill? Or are you just bragging?
I've been slowing my bike down using my tongue on the front tyre for decades, it's beyond me why anyone would want these so called 'rim brakes'. etc.
BTW - that 10T shimano cassette is from the Capreo group for small wheeled folding bikes, it needs a special freehub that's pretty similar to the SRAM XD driver.
molgrips - MemberSeriously? You can't imagine why someone would want a lower gear on a hill? Or are you just bragging?
It doesn't matter how many gears I have, I will always want another lower one.
How big do you want? TA do up to 50T.
Don't think they do for XTRM985 chainsets.
Seriously? You can't imagine why someone would want a lower gear on a hill? Or are you just bragging?
As I said, I have used one gear for 15 years and while I can understand why someone would want a lower gear at times I don't get the need for many lower gears and certainly not the obsessing over a few gear inches at the lowest or highest end.
If I was bragging I would be saying how I overtake pretty much every geared rider uphills but I don't brag...
What a hero.
Cool story bro. Everyone knows that it's a piece of cake to ride a singlespeed uphill anyway. You just go backwards so the small sprocket is in front.
If you can maintain 30kmh+ on a mountain bike on the flat then fair enough, I can't
Only if there is a tail wind
But 30kph is well within the range of 1X
It's speeds of 50kph+ where it runs out of range
What a hero.
Pretty sure that is what they say when I pass them but could be mishearing it as I am going so fast.
If people can happily ride singlespeed bikes I don't see why having 'only' 10, 11 or 12 gears with a 330%-500% range is a bad idea?
Also, if you can't spin at 180rpm or squat 3x bodyweight you're only really doing pretend MTBing. 😉
I can do 30-35kmh on the flat on an MTB but I can't maintain it for any significant length of time, say ten minutes, no matter what gearing I use.
For those complaining that they run out of gears at high speeds, just what proportion of your ride is done at those speeds? I suspect there's a lot of tail wagging the dog going on and a few seconds' spinning out in a two to three hour ride is being used to justify a viewpoint. I got over 50kmh on a ride last weekend - it was all of two minutes in a six hour ride, complaining that I've run out of gears for that level of incidence is daft.
At the low end there's only so low you can go before you are spinning to stay still and most setups (1x, 2x or 3x) are just above that point anyway.
Your gearing should reflect the majority of your riding and most people wouldn't notice the difference between any system for that. It's when you get to the extremes that you'll notice a difference but you wouldn't be using those gears much anyway - I use the 11T and 40T sprockets less than 1% of my riding time, I hardly use the 13T and 36T sprockets either so at a guess somewhere in the region of 90-95% of my riding is done using the sprockets between 13T-32T. This is with a 32T chainring on a 29er.
Edit: Just remembered when I last used the 40T - riding up the rough track at the bottom of the Devil's Staircase out of Kinlochleven. It was at the end of the HT550, about 5am and I'd been riding since 4am the previous day so was a bit tired.
But then having ridden solely fixed/singlespeed for over 15 years I am at a total loss why firstly anyone would...
So STW it hurts...
Only if you get your beard trapped in the mangle.