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Diawi, not tried one but have looked before. If you fancy the idea of solid fuel / meths then it doesn't look a bad buy. The brass meths burner won't be the lightest thing in the world though.
How much do gay looking socks weight then? If they're fluffy then they might come up light on the scales. I might get the old crochet kit out later and do myself a pair of MYOG ones 😉
I wanted some sort of fleece sock/warm ones so I tasked the wife with the job and she came back with pink fluffy ones.
Ha! I'm imagining aerobics style socks now.
Perhaps we can all start to wear 80's leg warmers and ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame 😯
Perhaps we can all start to wear 80's leg warmers and ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame
What you want to do in your spare time is fine by me but don't get us all involved 😉
We could have a retro early 90's throw back to when everthing was luminous I am sure I have some of that gear somewhere 😯
Your name's on 'The List' so you're already involved 😉
Your name's on 'The List' so you're already involved
ok I'm game the hunt is on for lightweight lumo gear then 😉
pink camo gear ought to do, now where did I see that???
I think it should be mandatory for everyone to have something 80’s with them or on.. I'm going to an 80’s style ‘Globe Hypercolour’ T shirt that changes colour when you sweat… Oh well I guess that’s just going to stay the one sweaty colour then…!
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Very nice job Ian, it'll be interesting to see what effect it has on boil times. If it works well I anticipate a world foil shortage
In between changing nappies, I finished off my Clone with some holes punched around the edge. In the end, I've put about one third of the holes that are shown on the template, with a single row of 21 holes around the top rim, and 19 on a double row on the bottom, but only partially around the base which allows me to direct it or not towards the wind.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5574809611/ ]Completed Clone with holes[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr
So, to the boil test. To keep the test method in line with my previous [url= http://ianbarrington.com/2011/01/09/stove-test-whitebox-vs-vargo-triad/ ]stove test[/url], I boiled 450ml of water in 8m 7s, once the stove is fully primed, which is 4m 21s faster than with a standard windshield.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5575395150/ ]Boil test[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr
With the significant reduction in boil time, it's definitely worth the effort to make one.
ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame
Perhaps Monty Python's Lumberjack song would be more appropriate 😆
Real world performance test, using the above setup: cup of tea made outside in 8 mins 54s total time in quite windy conditions too.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5577107064/ ]Outside boil test, with lid[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr
Very pleased with that 😀
Told you they were good 🙂 Don't burn your decking though
Also good to see you making good use of your paternity time.
I boarded the loft out during mine
Stu....As its April tomorrow, does that mean I get to spend all day enjoying WRT Coordinates your about to email out???
OR
Have I got another day spent doing boring paperwork wishing I was out in the Hills?
@Bigface ... you misunderstand, today is the last day to enter but GR and map details aren't sent out until the end of April, the 28th to be exact. Sorry about that but hey ho back to your paperwork 😉
@Ian, how robust do you think it'll be, get a year out of it do you think?
YOUR JOKIN......NNOOOooooo Gutted thought for some reason it was tomorrow, Going to have to buy myself something now to cheer me up 😥
Something lightweight i hope?
Yeah need a cooking pot...Alpkit?
Tibetan titanium pans are about the lightest you can get. I use a combo of a small 550ml pan and a 450ml mug for extra versatility without incurring much extra weight.
Stu, I think the Clone would reasonably hard wearing. It withstood being blown across the decking earlier without loosing much shape. It is most prone during transit, so if you can roll it and store it in a pan it should be fine.
Bigface, evernew ti stuff is very, very nice. It'll pretty much last longer than any of us will and it's not that expensive all things considered.
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/page100.asp
Ian what size of gap is there between the top of your stove and base of your pot when everything's in place?
If your looking at Evernew get it bought sharpish as stocks are low and the factory/staff were affected by the Tsunami in Japan a few weeks back so stock won't be replenished for some time.
These look cool, well cheap anyone used one?
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product527.asp?PageID=100
Bigface, I've not tried one but have been tempted ... reviews seem a little mixed with some testers saying the things split along the folds.
By the way the WRT start list for 2011 is now on the blog
http://welshridething.blogspot.com/
76 unsuspecting victims have been lured into my devilish trap this year 😀
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Now that is ultralight!
Back to Big-face, as a vessel only (ie not for cooking too) 60g isn't 'that' light. Just use a disposable cup from a Klix machine at 5g.
Ian what size of gap is there between the top of your stove and base of your pot when everything's in place?
18mm
Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow? I was thinking about one of these stoves but that has put me off totally.
What's the rush? ... you're there all night!
Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow?
My MYOG one a few pages above ^^^ boils 400ml of water in about 4 1/2 minutes with one Gelert solid fuel tablet or a [url= http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html ]supercat[/url] meths burner. However, Anthony's [b](Edit: Not Anthony's but Ian's) [/b]wins when it comes to craftsmanship & aesthetics 🙂
Slugwash, you must mean Ian's, my MYOG I've pictured is far from being a winner where craftmanship and aesthetics are concerned!
😳 Sorry! I did mean to double check it before posting but got distracted. Post two above ^^^ now contains an Edit:
Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow?
Yes, compared to gas or petrol stoves, 8 mins isn't that quick at all. However, if you want to use a gas stove in very cold weather it won't work very well. Petrol or paraffin is a bit on the smokey and noisy side, plus they're much heavier - I have these types of stoves too.
As Stu and others say, there's no hurry really. I can get the stove lit and a pan on while I do other stuff and it sits there quietly boiling my water with little hassle. Also, it doesn't weigh much. I just happened to weigh my cooking kit, which comprises of a Vargo Tirad, Tibetan 550 pan, 450 Ti mug, Caldera Clone wind shield and a pot warmer comes to 209g before fuel.
Given the light weight, I'm happy to endure 8 mins to boil up for a brew 🙂
Ian's wins when it comes to craftsmanship & aesthetics
Thanks 😉
Bigface0_0 - Member
These look cool, well cheap anyone used one?
I picked up one of these last week as I needed another cup/bowl to go with my GSI Halulite Minimalist as pictured above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ so I can have a brew whilst heating up more water or food.
My thoughts were that it is light enough for what it costs and as it packs flat it will not take up too much space. If I used a disposable cup I would crush it the amount of times I crash on a given day 😉
The disadvantage with those mugs is that you they can't go on a stove. As my mug is metal, it can serve dual duty as a pan or a mug, and weighing only 12g more and costing about £5 more than the X-mug, I think it's more versatile. All my cooking stuff packs inside the larger pan anyway, so I don't feel I'm having to make extra room for it.
One of my principles of being weight efficient it to take stuff that serves a purpose in addition to its primary one, thereby negating the need to take an additional item if a secondary purpose can be fulfilled adequately.
Ian you are right being unable to use to use the the x-mug as a pan is a disadvantage but I have bought it now so will have to give it a field test and see how I get on with it. I guess if it does fail I will get a tibetan mug like yours if they are £15, can you give me the link for it please so I can save as a fav please?
Congratulations on the new addition to the Barrington family
I got mine from a local outdoor shop where I get a discount, but they have them [url= http://www.penrithsurvival.com/penrith_survival/mia/pid/7826499 ]here[/url] for £15.
Thanks Pete and everyone else for your congrats on our little baby girl - we've called her Sophie.
If you want a gas stove to work in very cold weather you need a piece of copper pipe, flatten it and bend it around your stove and gas canister, a sort of U shape so the two ends are in the flame, bind to gas canister with copper wire. Great heat sink, all the stove manufacturers will recommend you don't do this, I'm not even saying try it, but it works in snow and at altitude.
The 'X Mug' fits in a MSR Ti Kettle, along with stove, gas, stove, spork and windshield. So definite win imo. Accept I can't bung it in a flame but it will hold coffee whilst I boil water for more coffee.
Any chance of a few more pictures showing bikes / kit overnite bivis etc? Looking for inspiriation.
NCB take a look here http://www.bikepacking.net/category/individual_setups/
great link Stuart that's going to be great wasting a few hours surfing through that lot when the sun goes down 😕
[url= http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5131/5584841245_81628418df.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5131/5584841245_81628418df.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/61239006@N04/5584841245/ ]SANY0503[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/61239006@N04/ ]john502011[/url], on Flickr
Thought id show you my kit so far, mostly from already what ive got from running. Recently bought the polythene sheet, the thickness of it alarms me a little. Stove is a pocket rocket and pan a primus.


