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I understand that your bike would ride like a dog on anything vaguely interesting. 😛
you either believe it or you don't. at the end of the day, its sub 25lb as per the requirement of this thread, curious seat angle also known as "perspective" is actually almost flat
Well I was hoping for a bit of justification as I can't see anything on your bike being lighter than on mine except the tyres and possibly the fork as I can't see what that is. Obviously if my scales turn out to be inaccurate, and my bike actually lighter than I think, then that's great! BTW, the saddle looks wrong compared to the window sill so thought I'd taken any possible perspective issues into account.
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Currently 23lb
removed due to fotopic failing me!!!
Sam - Member
Singular Pegasus, ~18lbs as shown
Not fair. Can't buy. Me want.
Hurry up!
🙂
Lynskey, like buses....
Yes Dougal I wasn't being facetious, it was a genuine query, in order to have made the frames that light there must be a compromise, I wonder if it's longevity. Like you I've not kept an MTB longer than a year for a long time now, so I'm not that fussed! I'm very tempted by one next year, as long as they ride nicely!
Anthony - Member
7907g so well sub 18lb. Could easily loose another lb if I wanted a bike that I never fancied actually riding.
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, but my tripple butted pipedream Ti frame with pace RC31's, Ti BB, 350g tyres & Ibeam carbon post & FX saddle, also SS, weighed in at about 20/21lbs, ho hmmm.
Like you I've not kept an MTB longer than a year for a long time now
Mine's almost 3, and not getting replaced any time soon, so my attitude is slightly different - have to admit I'd be tempted by an MCS if I had the money spare, but then it's not all about weight, and I still really like the way the Genius rides (and the remote shock adjust).
being bigger, and heavier and harder on a bike than dougal, i'm tempted by the carbon santa cruz blur xc. still under 2 kg's. but said to be stupid strong/stiff...
but think it'll be a ti ht instead!
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, but my tripple butted pipedream Ti frame with pace RC31's, Ti BB, 350g tyres & Ibeam carbon post & FX saddle, also SS, weighed in at about 20/21lbs, ho hmmm.
I was wondering what wheel/tyre combo he's using to get it to that weight - is it a 29er too? does seem unnaturally light.
Edit: sorry i was actually looking at Sam's bike - not the lynsky.
in order to have made the frames that light there must be a compromise, I wonder if it's longevity
I think the compromise is price. Strong light cheap, etc etc.
There are certainly quite a few candidates for my "Gaudy anodizing" thread of last week. At least I dont feel so alone now.
Mine's almost 3, and not getting replaced any time soon, so my attitude is slightly different
Do you pay retail for it? That's the difference!
Kramer: yes the MSC is expensive, but not outrageously so, and yet it is outrageously light. I'm in between Oli and Dougal weight wise, so perhaps the three of us ought to try one for a comparison!
It's all personal, I would never buy a Spark because I just don't ever use remote lockouts and in my opinion they ride horribly if you don't use it a lot. I like the Epic because you just don't have to think about it. I imagine the MSC with an RP23 does ride quite nicely, and the lack of a remote lockout certainly isn't a disadvantage as far as I'm concerned!
Do you pay retail for it?
Full retail no, but I don't get free bikes.
Well I was hoping for a bit of justification as I can't see anything on your bike being lighter than on mine except the tyres and possibly the fork as I can't see what that is. Obviously if my scales turn out to be inaccurate, and my bike actually lighter than I think, then that's great! BTW, the saddle looks wrong compared to the window sill so thought I'd taken any possible perspective issues into account.
Window is a large mirror! i've looked at a few photos of the same bike in the same room and the saddle looks the same, regardless of it actually being straight!
Not sure how you would like me to justify the weight really? i weighed literally every component as i built the bike originally apart from the wheels, regardless of which at worst i can still only get it to come out at 22.8lb even now! the tyres are nearly 200g lighter a pop at 440g, flyweight tubes 105g, i dont know what wheel build or fork is on yours to compare.
sorry i was actually looking at Sam's bike - not the lynsky.
DT Hubs, CXRay spokes, Stans 355 rims, tubeless, Karma rear, RRalph front. Lots of other light bits and pieces. Having no gears and no suspension really allows you to save quite a bit of weight 🙂 This was really as a show bike for people to pick up and go 'oooh, isn't it light' Just because a lot of people have the preconception 29ers can't be light fast bikes. As I normally ride it it's probably around 19-20.
i weighed literally every component as i built the bike originally apart from the wheels
So weight is based on adding together all these part weights? A notoriously inaccurate method of weighing a bike.
DT Hubs, CXRay spokes, Stans 355 rims, tubeless, Karma rear, RRalph front. Lots of other light bits and pieces
None of which are [i]that [/i]light, except for the spokes, you can go a fair bit lighter on everything else, particularly if it's just for people to pick it up and go 'ooo'!
Ti spokes too for a showbike, Nick
Haha! Yes, definitely for a show bike though...
White Aerolites for pimp bikes that will be used. £5.50 a spoke or something though...
That turner is the puppys privates mate!!!
25.5lbs? Really?
I love how these threads always bring out the cynics and the weight weenies!
that turner does look to have a lot of heavy kit for 25.5lbs... unless thats it beefed up (which i'd assume)
well, i'm probably changing from my spark (if they replace it on warranty!) not sure what i'll get, i like the new epic njee, but can't get one cheap llke a trek, moots, or maybe an msc...
could try a new trek top fuel i guess...
and theres nothing to stop a silly light bike being thrashable!
for me (and dougal no doubt)
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caddon bank drops are ridden fairly regularly among other stuff...
on light carbon ht's/full sussers...
That's part of the Nat Champs course isn't it?
I really like the look of the new Top Fuel, I think I'll probably be on one next season I reckon.
I think the days of really fragile bikes are gone frankly, most bikes these days are pretty tough.
not that drop no. thats on caddon bank the xc at inners.
there are a couple on the various dh tracks we'll use, though most send you the wrong way for where the course goes...
you coming up for the champs aye?
course is mint! steep fun descents, and decently interesting/testing climb...
straight up, straight back down!
Yeah, I know they used it for the BUSAs there, I assumed it was in for the Nat Champs too!
I'm not coming up nah, I'm an over 23 now, and my form's shocking at the moment, I'm doing a 12 hour solo at 24/12, something a bit different. Stanes is too far to go to try and not get lapped by Oli and Liam!
if i remember correctly the turner is 27.8 in the above build but much more usable than it was with the light weight gear on 🙂
I see, you implied it was 25.5 as built, which seemed extremely dubious!
I think 'usability' is relative, I must admit if I had a 5" trail bike, it wouldn't have lots of silly light parts on it, but for XC race bikes it's different. I'm sure mine would go downhill better with some 2.3" tyres, but that would just be stupid. Horses for courses and all that.















