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JohnClimber
Is that massive front tyre really hard work on a ride?
I'm guessing you run it at a very low pressure to soak up the bumps.
@ LeeW - that's really nice. any idea what it weighs in at
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Retro83, 24lbs with summer tyres on. I'm sure it could go on a diet but I have the finesse of a drunk hippo.
Bumhands - Member
Is that massive front tyre really hard work on a ride?
I'm guessing you run it at a very low pressure to soak up the bumps.
No, it rolls realy well & yes at just under 10psi (normal pressure) it gives at least 3" of travel
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Stop posting those Jones,i wont but cant afford.
Bumhands - MemberJohnClimber
Is that massive front tyre really hard work on a ride?
I'm guessing you run it at a very low pressure to soak up the bumps.
Schwalbe published study - fat and low roll with least resistance 😀
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In its SS guise
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Geardy
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My DEAN Custom Colonel.
Geometry specced to be pretty similar to my original 93 Clockwork (and coincidentally almost identical to their new R8). It's absolutely brill on tight singletrack and I have an Alfine hubbed wheel that can be slipped in and wired up in 15 minutes when required.
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My DEAN again, now I've read the instructions on how to insert pics....
EDIT....But for some reason it's still not working. Can anyone tell me why?
Well that didn't work. You're on your own I'm afraid.
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29er:
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Kiddie wheeled version:
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My DEAN yet again, now I've got the link working.
kiwijohn -- I think the problem may have been due to my Fotopic account only having been created the night I tried to post the pic here. The pic url has changed since then, maybe they have some kind of censorship or probationary period for new users or pics?
No worries. I prefer tinypic.com myself.
Nice ride by the way.
Kona Hei Hei 1997 with 1998 decals
Taken back in the summer.
Now even more retro with full period XTR M950
Love her 😳
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Hummer + Rohloff
very retro...1993, brought back to life 2009...
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all just beautiful. Ti rules 😀
Titus FTM Exogrid
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Havent got a titanium off roader (yet) but I do love my carpe diem (purchased off here so i am allowed to share it with you)
Shortbaldone -> that looks like the steepest head angle ever seen on a mountain bike
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My proto Singular Ti hummingbird
steve_b77 - Member
Shortbaldone -> that looks like the steepest head angle ever seen on a mountain bike
does it? never feels paricularly that way, dont see it looking at it either, but then i am particularly dumb at stuff like that!, can you explain to me??
Needs some t.l.c on the Black widow
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think i could get away with swapping my 100mm durin race for some 120mm front forks on this?
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it's been said before, but that head angle just looks wrong? Maybe it's just the photo, but looks seriously steep?
maybe they could put some longer forks on it and that would slacken it off a bit? 😉
previous pic with my fox forks on, does it look more "right" then? be unusual for independant fabrication to get something wrong in terms of fundemental wouldnt it?
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still looks steep, but seems better... aren't IF all custom jobbies? so the headangle would be specified by the purchaser?
Independent Fabrication's "standard" angles [url= http://www.ifbikes.com/assets/documents/customize/traditional-sizing.pdf ](click here)[/url] are 71.5 degree head angle and 72 degree seat angle. "Industry standard" angles (on an XC hardtail) would be 71 degree head angle and 73 degree seat angle.
What this means is that by default Indy Fab builds with a steep head angle and a slack seat angle which gives a unique and ride (they ride great).
That said as psychle said they're all custom so you can have whatever you want. My steel Indy Fab has a 73 degree seat angle and a 69.5 degree head angle because that's what I asked for.
i had it custom made yes, but measurements and riding style and type etc given to IF and they work the rest out, see what you mean about being a bit on the steep side, i know it was tight to get me standover building around 100mm fork that i wanted, would this contribute to the angle requirement, and if i was to fit a 120mm, wouldnt this slacken the feel off somewhat?
will have to drop joe a note to ask if frame lifetime warrenty etc still ok around a 120mm, was more looking for an indication on what it might do to the ride really?
shortbaldone - I wouldn't worry about the head angle being "too" steep. It's currently fashionable to ride long travel (say forks 120mm and over) hardtails with slack head angles but there's a lot to be said for shorter forks and a steeper head angle - a more involving ride, shorter wheelbase making the bike more flickable etc.
The Indy Fab geometry moves your weight back on the bike by having a slack (ish) seat angle so compensates by steepening the head angle slightly.
I think that Joe has left but I'm sure that someone there would be able to tell you if a 120mm fork was alright if that's the way you want to go.
as long as you're happy with the ride, it's all that matters 🙂 a slightly longer fork would slacken it off a little wouldn't it? but as you say, worth checking the warranty first!
Re. the first pic vs the second, it could be that the reverse arch of the Magura is creating a bit of an optical illusion, it certainly looks different to the 2nd pic anyway.
I actually have a 2nd hand IF Ti deluxe (ie. not custom to me!) that I'll be putting a 130mm fork on, hopefully it suits it! Once it's built I'll post pics to this thread of course 🙂
Having a longer fork does slacken the head angle but it also slackens the seat angle by the same amount (approximately 1 degree for each inch of extra fork travel) and a longer fork raises the bottom bracket height...
angles / dangles / all relative to one persons preference and trails.
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