Really hankering after one as it would be a sensible "do it all" bike. General quick white peak blasts, dark peak big days, pulling the kiddie trailer, even commuting to work!!
I reckon with my build kit it would come in around 27lbs ish.
Prefer the green un!
Show me yours for inspiration and also what kit it has
cheers
Was on mine last night in green. But no pics. Sorry. Heh.
hope to be on one of yours in the next few weeks 🙂 whats you build list?
What type of bolt are you thinking for the headset top cap rob?
50p and a reach-a-round says it's for sale in 47 days 5 hours 33 minutes 😀
I can mail you a pic Rob but mine is:
819 wheels with Hope hubs and RQ UST tyres (2.2)
Vanilla 140mm forks with QR15
Some kind of FSA reducer headset with almost no stack height
50mm stem
Easton DH carbon risers
Mainly an SLX groupset with double and bash
Carbon post with Charge Spoon
Some old XTR brakes
Flat pedals
No idea what it weighs sorry
they are crap, had one, sold it............. 😉
ooh thats a little harsh ton.... cant be that bad ?...they look good, but its what it rides like 😉
elaine anne, i was kidding.
just wish they made one with mansize wheels.
Cheers James 🙂 Al/ton - **** off 😉
I'm building mine up next week and will post pics...I'm going Fox Talas, X0 rear and shifters, XT front and cranks, Easton bars, Thomson seatpost and stem and DT wheelset. I can say the frame is lovely, I have the 18" in blue, can't wait to blast it, Afan trip booked in Sep too so bring on the noise :o)
Mine hopefully will be:
Talas 140s
hope/stans
Joplin
SLX/X9
Elixirs
some bars and stem - not sure yet
What about the bolt rob?
Mine is talas 150, American classic on 355, droplin, sunline, xt brakes, xtr rear mech, slx cranks, umm think that's about it .
They ride sweet and are a laugh.
Want pics?
please
There are some pics of mine on another Mmmbop thread. Using the bathroom scales method it weighs just short of 29lbs.
It's in the cave. Will do.some tomorrow.
Mine is in the box. The build list is one Cotic Soul minus 1 Cotic Soul frame + 1 stepdown thinger for the headset and one 31.6 seatpost shim.
Mmmbop 16"
Pike U-T coils
Hope Hoops - Pro2/Flows
Maxxis HR 2.3 rear/ Minion 2.3 ST front (run tubeless)
Hope Mono Minis + 160mm floaters
Straitline 50mm stem
Spank Royala bars
Thomson post - SLR XP
Saint rear, SLX double f.mech
XT/Saint shifters
11-34,XT chain
Blackspire Stinger guide
Raceface Atlas FR cranks
Blackspire 22/36 rings
Dark Cycles bash
Not a lightweight build 30 ish pounds.
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Just had my frame delivered today from CRC, couldn't help myself when I saw i being sold for £154.00!
Going to run mine 1 X 10 to see if i get on with it, will post up some pics when finished.
Mine is no longer in the box, couldn't wait 
So I have a blue rolling chassis with white Revelations and stem, a set of Truvativ Team Noir bars, XT brakes, SLX cranks, MG1 pedals, and Roval Traversee rims. But no mechs, chain, or seatpost Still couldn't resist and had to go for a roll round the block on it, feels good so far.
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Must admit I'm still getting to grips with it. Ride it 2 days in a row, love it, ride XC HT one day and then mmmbop next day don't get on as they are so different. Takes me 2-3 hours to get dialed back in. Biggest surprise for me is how well it climbs it is almost as quick as the XC bike, and feels like less effort.
18"
Pike 454 uturn
ProII 5.1/EX721
NN 2.25 / RR 2.25
Hope X2 203/180 Ashima rotors
Thomson 50mm stem
Burgtec RW bars
Ibeam post & saddle
XTR short cage rear mech & SLX shifter
11-34 Sram thingy
MRP 1x (not set up right, chain comes off if backpedal)
Truvativ Stylo cranks, Hope BB with 34t E13 ring
Dunno about weight but it is really light, I would say 27ish, not much more than my pimp'd duster. Could do with ligher wheels but they are shared with the full/suss
(apologies for posting a pic of a 'dirty' bike)
can you ride twisty singletrack around trees on a mmmbop?
😉
Isn't it an Inbred?
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18" MmmBop
Hope step down headset and seat clamp
XT groupset incl disc brakes - with RF bash guard in place of outer ring
RS Pikes
Easton Havoc 711mm bars
Hope 50mm DH stem
Fizik Aliante saddle
Syncros post
Hope Hoops - Pro2 on Stans Flow
Maxxis HR 2.35 60a tyres
DMR V8 flat pedals
Is that it now?
Weighs in at just under 28lbs - not bad for a tough nut...
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18" frame.
Hope reducer headset.
Raceface D2 50mm stem.
NC17 bars.
XT shifters.
XT front mech.
XTR rear.
SLX double/bash.
Hope M4s/braided.
Blackspire Big Slims.
Marz 66 RC2X 150mm coils.
DT 5.1 front and Alexrim rear/Hope hubs.
Ritchey Pro post with Charge Spoon.
Want a matching rear wheel if anyone is off-loading one.
can you ride twisty singletrack around trees on a mmmbop?
It is significantly more difficult on really tight stuff, but that's more due to having silly wide bars than the bike itself.
Buy some carbon reinforced gloves....of course I could cut the bars down, and I might in the future but at the moment it just adds to the fun factor.
oh....forgot....30lbs all in.
how so heavy?
Mines' being built at the moment - can't wait:
18" Green Frame
RS Pikes 454
FSA Headset
Pro FRS 50mm Stem
Pro FRS Bars
Pro FRS Seatpost
Charge Spoon Ti Saddle
XT Shifters
SLX Front & Rear Mech, 9 speed
SLX Double & Bash
SLX Brakes with 180mm Rotors
Halo Hubs / Mavic Rims / Minion DHF's
Flat pedals
Mine's a blue pig but it should give you some ideas for the build apart from the headset of course.
18" Frame
Marzocchi 44 Ti RC3
DT EX1750 wheels
Fat Alberts 2.4
Sram gears
XTR Brakes
Raceface cranks bars,stem
Rase seatpost
Might try a carnegies bar on it next.
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It is significantly more difficult on really tight stuff,
you're not going fast enough.
They handle just fine on twisty stuff, just lean more steer less.
Oh and they do become really rather fun the faster you go.
Finished building mine last night.
Attempted a sort of custom decal job using both the black and white decals they supply over the top of one another...
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RS Recon 327 @ 130mm
xtr rear
deore front
xt shifters with fibrax full length outers
slx triple chainset
Sram PG970 cassette/Sram chain
front wheel dt swiss E540 on dt swiss 240s hub
Rear wheel dt swiss 4.1d on xt hub
Juicy 5's
Thomson 31.6 post
Truvativ Team stem - To long will be replaced
Bonty racelite carbon risers
Superstar 1 1/2 - 1 1/8 headset
Grips and seatclamp both from Superstar
Thats it i think 🙂
Liam - I'm liking the decals....
Cheers, just chucked up a slightly closer pic of them.
Perhaps someone will try the other way round.
Seemed a shame to waste one set of them 😀
Well - I have a blue mmmBop waiting to be built......
you're not going fast enough.
Depends on your definition of tight twisty stuff, mine is when my silly wide bars don't physically fit between trees, which can kinda kill your speed pretty rapidly 🙂 (as I found out recently)
I really like the decals, wish I'd thought of that!
Woop Woop
Ordered one 🙂
So my spec will be:
Green frame
Silver Fox Talas (for now)
Hope hoops
Joplin 4
White charge Spoon ti
White Pro FRS bars and stem
White Wellgo MG1 pedals
SLX cranks
Avid elixirs
X9 mech and shifters
Can't wait!
how so heavy?
6.5lb fork and an old rear wheel at the mo. Could easily chip a couple of pounds off I guess but the 66s are keepers.
A Patriot LT (R.I.P.) was stripped for half the Ragley parts so weight was never a major consideration. As it stands, its 7lbs lighter than the Orange.
my current build:
Fox 36 Talas R
Hope Step down headset
Azonic Stubb stem
Easton Monkey Lite SL bars
lizard skin grips
Avid Ti speed dial levers to BB7 brakes 160mm
X.9 SS rear, xtr Cassette (11-34) and x.9 shifter
Truvativ Carbon Noir 1:1 crankset & BB
Truvativ Boxguide chain guide
Crank brothers smarty pedals
Bontragar King Earl rims
WTB Prowler SS front, XT rear
Salsa post clamp
Thomson Post
old beat saddle.
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It would be great with a rear maxle
is that a corvette?
It would be great with a rear maxle
hmm
Cheers, just chucked up a slightly closer pic of them.Perhaps someone will try the other way round.
Did it last week. A bike with two personalities, hence two different looks from each side. I must admit, I prefer the white over black.
Pics in this thread....
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PS. Does anybody have clearance issues with adjusters on Pikes under the downtube if using a very low stack headset? Just need to be sure before I order one.
DaddyFool, YGM about a rear wheel.
So how are you all liking the mmmBops? Just been looking at them on CRC at that very tempting price! Would be using it for a mixture of dirt jumping, xc/trail centre and downhill. Pretty sure it'll be fine for the latter two but how about DJ? Will it take the abuse of an unsmooth 17-stoner?
Also what extra stuff do you need for a standard 1-1/8" Pike to fit the head tube?
Here's mine, just built up...
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18" Ragley MmmBop Frame
Rockshox Recon 140mm maxle forks (Will be swapped for floats or revs)
Halo Freedom rims & Spin Doctor hubs
SLX Chainset (Double & Bash)
SLX Mecha
SLX Shifters
Truvativ Stylo Bars & Stem
Thomson Layback post
Charge Spoon saddle
good fun to ride
They are one of the few hardtails that I find genuinely ugly- those dropouts, that headtube- bleurgh!
Damn you Liam! I was going to do that with the decals but I thought it might look horrible so I just did them normally. looks bloody great!
I saw one of the green ones at the weekend. The colour doesn't look great in photos but is a lot nicer in the flesh.
Surprised how flexible the seat stays are. Only noticed when I was out tonight and suffered a puncture. Dropping the wheel back in the drop-outs and they the whole seatstay/chainstay fabrication moves in and out so easily without the wheel to brace it. I honestly thought I'd broke something 🙁
Weighed mine tonight with one of those hanger type scales. Comes in at a tadge under 28lb's.
Had a blast, after riding it to my wedding, on the honeymoon at Mabie!
Blue 18" Frame
RS Revelation 2009 Maxle Dual Air
Truvativ Holzfeller Double and Bash
DMR V8 Pedals
Ragley Spike Seatpost
Ragley Cheeky Saddle
Ragley Seatclamp
PRO Vanderham Grips
PRO Riser Bars
PRO 50mm Stem
FSA Big Fat Pig Reducer Headset (Will change it weighs a tonne!)
Mavic 717 On front with Hope Pro II Bolt through (Maxxis Advantage 2.25)
Mavic Crossride on Back (Maxxis Crossmark 2.25)
Avid Elixir 5 Front 180 mm Rear 160mm
XT Rear Shadot Medium Cage
SLX Front Double Mech
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In a niceway when you start approaching 30lb for an hardtail thats going to be used for rides in the Peaks etc I think your better off going with a full suss.
If your using it for jumping, short rides and also own a full suss for other duties then fine.
Part of the appeal of hardtails (for me) is a weight advantage over a full suss.
Part of the appeal of hardtails (for me) is a weight advantage over a full suss.
It's not about the weight for me - my heaviest hardtail (BFe) is 7lbs heavier than my lightest full-suss (Epic). In fact my lightest hardtail (Zion) is no lighter than my Epic at the moment.
What do you use the BFe for and would you take it on a long ride over the Epic?
The BFe is a temporary build at the moment but I mainly got it for playing about at trail centres - although so far I've just been riding it for general stuff in the Pentlands where it is of course massive overkill.
For a long day ride the Epic would still be my go-to bike, although I also find I use my Soul on longer runs.
Point is why would you want to ride with a dead lump of weighty metal between your legs hauling it up everywhere? When you can feel nimble, quick, responsive etc with a lighter hardtail that doesn't feel dead and thuddy downhill?
Hardtails rock but I'd rather have a well built Whyte Ti with air forks and high quality wheels than cheap and heavily built hardtail. How often do you folk 'go big' and snap bikes on downhills? 😆
Yes ££ but at the end of the day this is your hobby/weekend time.
Ace condition 20 ins blue mmmbop frame in the classifieds for anyone lanky who fancies one. Nolonger available from CRC in large. (sorry for the shameless plug)
Yes ££ but at the end of the day this is [b]your[/b] hobby/weekend time.
"your" being the important bit 😉
Hardtails rock but I'd rather have a well built Whyte Ti with air forks and high quality wheels than cheap and heavily built hardtail
Can I have your wallet please? 😥
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RS coil Pikes, LX crankset, Static HiTop bars, On-One 456 stem,
Fizik Nisene saddle, Mavic XM 321 rims, Specialized Pro 2,35 tyres,
XT/Lx gearing, Hayes 9s.
In regular XC mode...
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and its darkside - saddle down, forks lowered...
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how many spacers are people running under stems?
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apply decals, trim steerer, sort out new tyres, fettle gears, tidy kitchen!!!
Liking mine so far, it does lack a seatpost and saddle which is limiting its usefulness somewhat but it did make my day by havng all the indexing just work miraculously as soon as I fitted the mechs and twiddled the end screws by eye, so clearly it's Meant To Be. Might get it out for a ride tomorrow. No photos as frankly it looks like crap, all overlong cables and hoses and electric tape all over it as I couldn't find my helicopter tape.
Bring it on wed NW.
I'll be down south this week but I should be out to play next week.
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Serves allright as comuting bike.
Oh, and surprisingly it turns out that a 16 inch Mmmbop with a 130mm fork has the exact same wheelbase as a 17.5 inch Hemlock with a 160mm fork. That's pretty long... Glad I didn't get the 18.
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Just (almost) built
Pedals - the only flats I had kicking around the garage 🙂
Cables & hoses? Meh - I might just leave them like that.
Advantage 2.1 - currently running with tubes as I don't have a tubeless kit at home.
Saddle - unsure about this or a Gusset...
16" frame
Talas RLC
XT chainset, mech & shifters
Elixir CR brakes
Syncros rims on Pro2 hubs
Easton 685mm Monkeylite bar / Hope 70mm DH stem
Ragley logo lock-on grips
Joplin with remote
Comes in at 27.5lbs (on my scales - the shop ones would have it sub-27)
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Do you not find your shifters get in the way?
aimed at who and in the way of what?
Just been out getting it dirty
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Looks good Colin.
Druidh - how have you routed the brake hose seat or chain stay? if chainstay - inside or out?
Chainstay - had to allow for the Join remote cable. Routing is currently a mix of in and out. I would have gone 'out' all the way but I'm not happy with the proximity of the crank.
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mmmBop 18"
Fox Talas 140
DT 420's on DT hubs
Avid Elixir CR SL with 203 rotors
XTR crank and F Mech
X0 R Mech
X9 Shifters
Thomson Elite post and 70mm Stem
Built with parts to throw onto a Ragley Ti when I've saved more pennies!! Maiden voyage Friday gone, blimey is this thing direct, loved it....