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Because fixed down any sort of sustained hill is bolex and a rear brake makes a big difference? A sensible consideration if you live anywhere hilly.
Fair enough if you live in thee mountains I suppose and the front disc is not good enough. Saying that, if I lived in the mountains I probably wouldn't ride a fixed gear bike which is a hard thing for me to say.
I have a pinnacle monzonite on fixed, bought to replace a langster which was a bit to sporty for me. Takes guards and larger tyres although I only use 25c ones.
Nice steel frame, changed the wheels, saddle and brake levers for stuff I already had. Bike itself was only c£250 very good value. I had been looking for similar to a day one and this ticks all the boxes for me.

info for anyone that cares.
Audax Mono - late march delivery on the frameset.
MUST NOT BUY COMPLETE BIKE AND STRIP IT !
rear facing dropouts
So... not dropouts then 😉
Three brakes on fixed is underrated. I did Paris-Roubaix on this:

And now I'm sad - the Paddy Wagom is dead. Kona have dropped it for 2020 🙁 . OK mine is 2007, my most ridden bike and only the frame and brake levers are original, but it is just a wonderful ride. In fact lookign at their web page, all their steel road bikes are gone. Gravel is clearly king.
Fair enough if you live in thee mountains I suppose and the front disc is not good enough. Saying that, if I lived in the mountains I probably wouldn’t ride a fixed gear bike which is a hard thing for me to say.
Out of interest, where do you ride if 23mm tyres and fixed gears work off road?
I did Paris-Roubaix on this:
I've done Tour of Flanders 86 miler twice on my DayOne. Did the new length 107 miles this year, bailed to gears and don't regret the decision one bit!
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Out of interest, where do you ride if 23mm tyres and fixed gears work off road?
The New Forest. Singletrack is about 100 metres from my house and gravel roads start at about a mile away. I can ride off road because the off road is so tame and while undulating there are not many long steep hills but I do ride with a 60 inch gear which is clearly very low for a fixed gear and I can't even attempt to stay with road riders on road sections but great on gravel.
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Three brakes on fixed is underrated. I did Paris-Roubaix on this:
That's tidy. Reminds me of this http://www.63xc.com/sriley/pompriley.htm
@hopster what's that frame? Looks just right with Chater Lea. 🙂
Well not really, those are special drop outs with brakes that can slide along with the axle.
Pretty sure they're not (you're thinking of sliding or rocker dropouts), they're just track ends with slotted IS mounts, same as on my Longitude. Works absolutely fine.
i cant get my head round that FXE frame , it looks like a nasty catalogue frame rebranded. ITs not a pretty frame at all. i get what its trying to be but the tubeshapes are just all wrong.
I'm with you on that. Plus it's heavy and has needlessly compromised tyre clearance (though it will still *just* fit GP4000 28s which are about 30mm). I think it looks better with some extra paint, though, and it's still for sale cheap if you fancy a punt on something that doesn't really fit your criteria 🙂

My renovated bob Jackson(sold on)
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I also second the Kona band wagon very comfy mine is 2010 version
Paddywagons a nice bike but I don't want another Kona. My tourer is a rove Al
My cargo bike is a sutra with an extra cycle.
That bob Jackson is lovely I do like his work but I struggle with using it as a beater. This bike lives in the garden ready to rock and roll
Pretty sure they’re not (you’re thinking of sliding or rocker dropouts),
*sigh - I said I was going to leave it, but here I am again. I understood the
Actually, no **** it. I'm not getting sucked in. Have a great weekend, may your tracknuts remain torqued.
@epicyclo. Thought it was a Flying Scot but the frame numbers don't match up so gave up. Tried Classic rendezvous for identifying and some of the members were really helpful. More pics here of the bike before and after. The only parts I paid someone else to work on were the chroming of the cranks and the frame respray, everything else was done by me including the lug lining.
Lovely looking bike. Stick up a few more pics here - I'm not the only one here who appreciates the clean lines of a proper bike.
BTW where did you get the rechroming done?

I rode this as a fixie for a while, it was hard work though, especially downhill and over anything remotely technical. I've switched it back to a freehub now though.
it was hard work though,
Not surprised, its about 5 sizes too small looking at that stem and seat post 🙂
Take the brakes off if you want to get some really hard work.
Take the brakes off if you want to get some really hard work.
Brakeless fixie not on the track It's like an idiot badge for cyclists really.
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Condor tempo fixie which replaced a slightly too big kona paddy wagon. Rides nicely and looking to do some Audax next year.
Brakeless fixie not on the track It’s like an idiot badge for cyclists really.
All depends where you live and ride and if you are capable of riding one really.
All depends where you live and ride and if you are capable of riding one really.
But for the subset of “not on the track” that’s ”on the road”, though, it’s still illegal and less able to stop quickly than one with a front brake, no matter how much more awesome the rider is than law-abiding people 😉
It is VERY marginally slower to stop in the dry (and quicker than a novice bike rider with 2 brakes)
If that makes me awesome then fair enough, I am pretty good at riding a fixed gear bike after 20 years of doing so if I do say so myself.
As for law abiding, not really sure for the gravel and single track I mostly ride on.
I find it mindboggling what laws folk will break for a purely aesthetic reason.
I wore rims out in 18 months on my Fixed commuter, with leg braking. No way would I not have three brakes in town traffic.
It is VERY marginally slower to stop in the dry
If we're comparing outright capacity to stop then physics would disagree, unless you have a rather loose definition of "very" or "marginally".
As for law abiding, not really sure for the gravel and single track I mostly ride on.
If it's a public right of way then it's a public highway and the law about having a front brake applies.
@kerley 🙂
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You will notice his lack of brake there, he know's what he is doing.
If we’re comparing outright capacity to stop then physics would disagree, unless you have a rather loose definition of “very” or “marginally”.
All depends if you have tested it or not I suppose. I have which is what my statement is based on.
I also qualified my first statement with "All depends where you live and ride"
Where I live and ride there are no pedestrians, no roundabouts, no pavements, no traffic lights, no crossings and very few junctions and most of my riding is not even on the road. Other than stopping to open gates I can't recall actually having to come to a complete stop at any time this year.
However, if I rode through towns I would have a front brake as I wouldn't take the risk on an extra metre of stopping distance.
I find it mindboggling what laws folk will break for a purely aesthetic reason.
Yep, it is hard being an aesthete sometimes. At least I think that is what people are shouting at me.
You will notice his lack of brake there, he know’s what he is doing.
Dude's saddle is on backwards and his socks don't look UCI compliant to me.
Beast of a gear he's riding though.
Keep meaning to take a pic when of mine, though it's not that special....OG blue Pompino with mismatched yellow Planet X forks.
In fact the most interesting thing about are the brakes - Magura CX jobs, HS66s. Probably worth more than the rest of the bike!
Done 200 miles on it the last couple of weeks. 45 miles on a fixie running a 50x18 round hilly East Devon is good exercise!
Leg braking a grown-up gear is hard on the legs Kerley (I'll slow my speed with the legs but never skid stop) - we all know pedalling fixed builds mighty knees, but persistent hard skid stopping is a recipe for injury IMO (chronic at that). It's putting a lot of force through the lower quad in a poorly controlled / stable way.
All depends if you have tested it or not I suppose
yeah i believe it was tested in controlled conditions for the courts from 14mph the results were 4ft on the bike with 2 brakes and 40 ft for the fixed wheel bike.
I can remember arguing with my dad about the relative stopping distance of a bike with 1 brake + fixed vs. 2 rim brakes when I was young.
'OK lets have a competition' says my dad.
To make the test 'fair' I rode his fixie, (which was called The Deathtrap, with fair reason) and he rode whatever scoot I was packing at the time.
Anyway, I can confirm a one rim brake bike will stop completely instantaneously from about 10mph if you smash said brake hard enough. The rider however will come to a halt about 6 feet further forward, using his single face brake on the road. 🤕
Beast of a gear he’s riding though.
There’s a reason why he’s pushing it! That’s got to be well over 100”.
I was always a two brake rider, but having converted two track bikes and not being very heavy, I find a good front brake to be fine.
When I ride ins group, speed modulation by pedal pressure keeps the group together. It’s always smoother when I’m on fixed rather than gears.
A brakeless track bike, bikepacking & gravel riding somewhere between London and Paris in 2015 (before it was cool?)


yeah i believe it was tested in controlled conditions for the courts from 14mph the results were 4ft on the bike with 2 brakes and 40 ft for the fixed wheel bike.
And you really believed that, seriously? 40ft to stop from 14mph is laughable.
I take it you haven't ridden brakeless fixed gear much?
Like I said I have tested it and at speeds as slow as 14 mph the difference would be a few feet at most.
I take it you haven’t ridden brakeless fixed gear much?'
Ill be honest - i was thinking the same when it comes to someone suggesting skid stops as a legitimate way to stop.
Ill be honest – i was thinking the same when it comes to someone suggesting skid stops as a legitimate way to stop.
Sorry, was that a yes or a no - have you ridden brakeless fixed gear very much?
Me, have ridden over 10 years and 30,000 miles on a brakeless fixed gear bike. You?
you mean track racing - yes i've done my share over the years. Mostly pursuit but the odd Devil takes the hindmost.
I've ridden plenty fixed but i'm not as uptight about how i look and have a full legal compliment of brakes on my bike.... not that i often use them....but then you wont be skid stopping the gear i run and retaining your knees.
fixed wheel is great for training but running no brakes on the public highway serves zero practical purpose other than being a liability.
Okay, so you couldn't skid stop your your big gear but have have never actually ridden on the road brakeless and never got skilled at skid stopping (as presumably you don't do it on the track!).
The reason I don't have brakes is simply because I don't need them so they prove "zero practical purpose" to use your words
You want brakes, that is fine. I am not telling anyone they shouldn't have brakes, as I said I would have a front brake myself if I lived in town, where there are pedestrians, traffic, crossings etc,. but that doesn't mean I cannot stop quickly enough for my needs where I do ride.
Like I said I have tested it and at speeds as slow as 14 mph the difference would be a few feet at most.
How very scientific.
A few feet equals what? 3? 5? 10?
So you'll probably still hit the next person to walk out in front of you looking at their phone, yes?
Anyway, riding a fixed gear brakeless on the highway breaks two rules.
Rule one, and the rule of law.
Double dick move.
How very scientific.
A few feet equals what? 3? 5? 10?
So you’ll probably still hit the next person to walk out in front of you looking at their phone, yes?
38.7 inches
Nobody will be walking out in front on me with a phone unless horses and cows can now use phones?
Try to understand that not everyone lives in a town or city...