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[Closed] Should I teach a kid that's not mine to cycle?

 juan
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As per title really
So's little one is about 4 and half and still can't ride without stabilisers.
I don't really wan't to take that away from his dad as I consider it being a dad/son stuff but looks like his dad don't give a toss (more interested in sending text to the SO about running us down when we're on the motorbike). Kid told me the bike at his dad is broken (flat tyres) so he can't ride it. This sounds like a very lame excuse to me. So question is should I help is mum in teaching him, or should I leave that to the dad?
So far I have already removed the cranks from his [s]bike[/s] tas de merde so he can learn balance and built him a 'north shore' bridge. But I feel like I am trespassing, if I was a dad I think I would be rather upset if someone taught my kid to ride bike.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:31 pm
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If the dad doesn't care, and the mum doesn't mind, what's wrong? Sounds like the dad isn't great tbh.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:35 pm
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1) Most of our kids mates didnt ride till they were 5 or 6
2) Ours rode at 4 ๐Ÿ™‚
3) This father forfeited his dad cycling rights when he couldnt be arsed to fix his sons bike

Go for it!


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:35 pm
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I don't think I'd teach someone else's kid to ride a bike unless their parents asked me. I do occasionally sort things out on my sons friend's bikes (oiling chains and adjusting brakes and the likes) but that's really it.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:35 pm
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can see your dilemma , but why get Mum to teach him to ride while you 'assist' . when the kid does get pedalling just make sure you give them and their mum lots of praise for learning together.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:36 pm
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At least in the UK I think you would want to read up on child protection legislation first ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:49 pm
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luke i will teach him with his mum around. And as for child protection I get enough shouting and b00llocking from my mum because I let stuff lying around...


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 2:55 pm
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Aye, if his mum wants you to do it why not? And she should be there to enjoy it too!


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 3:09 pm
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I'd suggest fixing the flat first and see if his dad takes the hint. What are the chances of dad thumping you for messing with his mrs and his kid if he objects? Failing that, try asking him if he's mind.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 3:10 pm
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Well the dad (who haven't met me) keep telling the kid that he want to beat me bla bla bla.
I am desperately trying to be a very smart one here and not reply. So fixing the bike isn't an option, unless I get the SO to pick the bike so I can fix it and then bring it back.

That coudl work ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 3:18 pm
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I was taught to wheelie by my friends dad...

my dad didnt mind.

I think i probably would. he'l learn off his friends sooner or later anyway. although saying that, i still have memories of my dad teaching me too ride on a cold winters day in the park. pretty special memory.

tough one.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 3:21 pm
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Err - I'm completely failing to see any issue here.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 3:39 pm
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Why can't his mum teach him to ride a bike ?? (with your help perhaps)


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 4:42 pm
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Well druidh the issue is that I don't want to "steal" that father and son moment to the kid and his dad.
Don't want the kid to feel I have stolen this moment to him. His mum is trying to teach him, but she's nursing him a lot, and she never pushes him out of his comfort zone (although I am willing to consider that I have no patience and ain't good with kids).


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 4:51 pm
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I dont see the issue. Teach the kid to ride a bike & do the mum. Easy.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 4:56 pm
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Do it, the kid won't think the same way when he knows how to ride and the enjoyment he gets from it won't make the fact his dad did **** all to help a significance...get it done!


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 5:55 pm
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get it done +1 his dad sounds a right tool anyway........


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 6:08 pm
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I dont see the issue. Teach the kid to ride a bike & do the mum. Easy.
Wisdom of Solomon, this, mate. Superb way of setting things up for a crack at the Mum. And the wee fellow gets to ride a bike into the bargain! Win-win.


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 6:22 pm
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because cycling is so important to you the idea of taking cycling away from his bond with his dad seems like a really bad thing to do. But that's your view not his father's - a lot of dads don't care, even those who cycle. i've taught plenty of kids to ride without stabilisers, the sustrans BikeIt people also do that in schools now all over the uk, and all is good. One friend got me to teach his daughter and had pangs of guilt for about 3 minutes...then me was running around the field like an excited kid himself, following her with his phone on video...all good in the end.
chris@cycleactive


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 6:59 pm
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is pederasty still illegal?


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 7:11 pm
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I'd probably teach him.
I've taught at least 8 or 9 (3-5yr old) kids to cycle without stabilizers (only one of them was mine) without their parents' consent.
Knowing the parents and knowing how they may react has to be taken into consideration but IME the parents have all been grateful and still have that proud moment seeing them ride for the first time, infact 2 of the kids I taught parents' now "think" they taught their own kids ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 7:13 pm
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I'd say go for it Juan, if the kids dad can't be arsed it's his loss.
I taught my fiance's 5 year old daughter to ride and it was excellent.
My fiance's kids must have told their dad that we all went out riding now and low and behold
3 new bikes appeared for them at his partner in crimes house!


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 7:13 pm
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I dont see the issue. Teach the kid to ride a bike & do the mum. Easy.

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let us know if you need any help with the old man - what tyres for a fight in the front garden?


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 7:16 pm
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My bonding session didn't last long. "Here's a bike son, wanna try riding it ?" - boy rides off :o) I might have run along beside holding it up for the first 20 metres...


 
Posted : 24/04/2010 7:20 pm
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As you all say the dad sounds like a di4k - think about all the enjoyment you get from riding a bike - why would a dad not want to spend time teaching teaching his spawn to ride a bike. I would imagine that seeing your kid on two wheels for the first time would be a happy moment. What is so bad about being part of that.

I'd want to be tubeless for a fight with said dad!


 
Posted : 25/04/2010 1:39 am