[Closed] Should I get some XT brakes?

Northwind - thanks - much appreciated. I recognise that "bounced off everything" feeling.

Oh dear threads like this really bring out the worst in STW don't they - pretty sad for people to get worked up over brands of disc brake.

I've had Avid, Hope and now Formula brakes (also used my mate's XTs) - the Avids were ok-ish if you bled them all the time, the Hopes were decent, and the Formula Ones are amazing. Making massive generalisations like 'Hope brakes are shite' is just stupid IMO.

What the **** are you all moaning about, only pussies use brakes. Stop being a bunch of fagots an learn to ride a bike and use the terrain to control your speed.

BTW XT's over Hopes every time

Northwind - Member
Funny, because most uplift trucks [b]in the UK[/b] have millions of Hope brakes in them...

FTFY.

If Hope were really as good as they are made out, they'd be coining it in from foreign sales. Instead, they are a mere bit-part player, surviving on jingoism.

Just like Orange...

I think that is a remarkably naive and simple viewpoint. Hope have never aimed to sell in bulk like Shimano have, they are a smaller operation. Consequently they don't have as many service centres and dealers (Shimano have them in bike shops up and down the country) outside the UK. Have you ever thought about that?

Oranges have their place, although I don't own or ride one we hired an Alpine 160.

Compared favourably with my old mans Nomad and my Mega. It was my brothers favourite (who used to race Ancillotis before he moved to a leisure lakes sponsorship and rode a Santa Cruz).

Nicolais are not all that popular outside of Germany, yet in Germany every man and his dog has one. Nice bikes though.

I demoed a couple of bikes with XT brakes today and they are really nice, pretty grabby though but I guess you get used to that, certainly very powerful. I also rode some Hope tech evo somethings and they were also excellent, and I preferred the progressive feel of them to the XTs.

I've had a Deore on a bike for years and it is still one of my favourite brakes, great feel and good power, less grabby, had no problems with it at all, though the lever isn't as nice as my Oros or most other brakes I've tried.

Basically you can't really go wrong with either. As a piece of engineerin the Hopes are a bit more special.

What bike were the Hope's on Bigjim?

FTFY.

If Hope were really as good as they are made out, they'd be coining it in from foreign sales. Instead, they are a mere bit-part player, surviving on jingoism.

Just like Orange...

The negativity on here is really amazing sometimes - 'surviving on jingoism' eh? Nowt to do with decent products and their amazing rep for customer service then (which I've experienced first hand)?

I've seen quite a bit of Hope stuff in foreign bike shops/on bikes in foreign countries BTW.

I've always used hope since the original c2. I now have xtr trail and evo x2 on both bikes. The shimano have more power but rattly levers compared to the hopes. The adjusters work bettrr on hopes and have great modulation but lack all out power. Hope pads last longer too. So I guess both have pro and cons...

their amazing rep for customer service

Skywalker-Flow wheres this video of you then?

**** off pinhead, I'm bored already.

skywalker-flow yer full of it lad!

jeyboy!

wrecker - Member

I can't believe nobodys really banged this drum yet. This is one area where Hope have Shimano (and Magura, avid, Formula etc etc) licked.

My experience of Shimano customer service was pish frankly- I suppose the flipside is that I've been using Shimano kit forever, and only ever had to deal with their customer service once...

Formula were good for me (sent me some wear-and-tear parts for free from France when they were changing UK distributors as the supply was a bit disrupted- I'd have happilly paid but they wouldn't let me)

Hope were OK- did what they had to do and no more. But about 1/3d of all the Hope stuff I've had has needed warranty work at least once, so that doesn't inspire. I know they can be better than they've been for me though.

Not sure why there can't be two decent brands, totally content with my 2008 XTs here. Do we agree current generation Elixirs are pretty arse? Ashima?

Pancake break anyone?

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My xt's are awesome!! 😀