First season racing elite so I've got a new frame and fork. Now I better get training so I can keep up with it!
Will be at the next Gorrick round for my first outing this year, before doing a few BMBS races, then heading back out to Austria for the rest of the season.
How did it get up there?
Can't you tempt it down with a saucer of milk?
That's the first bike I've seen that actually suits those wheels.
Isn't 1x9 a bit limiting for racing?
I havent found it very limiting so far: 36x11 is approx 44x13 and 36x34 is approx 32x30 so I dont actually loose too many gears. So far I havent found any disadvantages to it.
Very nice. The design/look of those wheels have really grown on me. I thought they were minging when they were first out, but would definately have a pair now.
Rusty Spanner - Member
How did it get up there?That's the first bike I've seen that actually suits those wheels.
It's light!
And looks ace!
It is pretty light; not sure exactly but I think its about the 22lb point (according to bathroom scales!).
I've had the wheels for almost a year now and I love them. I could actually notice a difference in stiffness compared to the crossmax's before them, and also the freehub makes a fantastic purrrrr....
I don't understand fancy wheels - ordinary ones work perfectly well, you can get the spares anywhere, they are cheaper - it's like reinventing the......well, you get my drift...... but you're right, that looks really good.
Like the single chainring and big cassette as well.
That's inspirational!
Is everyone dropping chainrings this year?
You doing BUCS?
Rusty - I'm pretty sure that Crank Brothers arent concerned with anything 'ordinary' and the design seems to have plenty going for it. I agree that traditional wheels work fine, but I am a fan of people trying new things. Also, they are super bling too! As for spares, 2Pure are simply the best company in the world, so I have no problems with spokes etc.
Yep, racing BUCS (BUSA to the old guard!). looking forward to it, know nothing of the course at the moment though, but I'm sure it will be a fun weekend!
Good on you Chris - I'm just an old technophobe. Someone has to be an early adopter and iron all the problems out.
I sneered at suspension (I now have forks on my bike) dissed discs (ditto), and currently have nothing but contempt for droppy seatposts and fancy wheels.
You know what I'll be using in a couple of years time then....
I can't pin down why, but I'm really liking that bike(including the wheels). But student kitchens have changed since my day!! Good luck with the racing!
"I dont get fancy wheels"....
clearly you don't "get" cycling..
nice bike
the kitchen isn't all its cracked up to be; theres a reason I didnt take the photo the other way around. I hope you'll note the Twinings is adjacent to the alcohol!
Those wheels do look so much better on that frame than they did on my epic last year. I'm hoping that a 4lb decrease in bike weight will be felt when it comes to racing! I've been tying it to the ground at night just to stop it floating away!
How light is it??
do you have a disability as you only have a rightsided handle bar
It is pretty light; not sure exactly but I think its about the 22lb point (according to bathroom scales!).
I do actually have 2 arms, but I also like super wide handlebars. I tried skinny racer boy bars, but had to go back to 685mm Eastons. More leverage!
"I dont get fancy wheels"....
clearly you don't "get" cycling..
Lol, bit of a sweeper Bruce, don't see how that follows 😀
Allow me to clarify: I'm not a racer, but ride all over the place so ease of spoke replacement and the ability to true a wheel after a couple of spokes break is far more important to me than a few grams overall weight loss. So it's Hope Pro II's and 719's for me for the time being.
However I'm delighted that Chris has built a lovely looking bike, with blingy wheels. I don't like unnecessary solutions to problems which don't exist, but if these prove to be lighter, stronger but just as reliable and easy to fix over the next couple of years, then we're all winners aren't we? And THEN I'll get some.
What chain guide are you using? Looks pretty clean and I want one! 🙂
I'm currently running a DMR speed guide and it looks so old fashioned haha
Chainguide looks like an MRP but could be wrong.
Nice looking bike, except for the wheels,but each to thier own I guess
chainguide - MRP 1.x. you're making me consider a 1x9 setup here!
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/chain-guide/product/1x-chain-guide-34957
where did you get the mrp??? no one seems to have stock yet in uk
• No Big-Ring!
• Risers bars!
• Tyres with a decent amount of tread on them!
....you ain't no racer with that set-up!!! 😉
Nice looking bike.
I get 2 x 9 for racing but not 1 x 9. Hasn't leg speed got something to do with it? On rough ground on a HT you need to big ring......don't you?
Very nice, like the Carbon n black frame especially with the blue CB wheels in blue..
looks no nonsense, lean and mean.
so many experts, perhaps some of you guys should race against this guy and see how you get on against him with your advantage of 3 rings.
Pretty sure CRC have stock of the MRP guides. I actually got mine in the US, so have been using a 1x9 set up since last June. I think its great for racing - I spend more time just getting on and pedalling instead of worrying about what my front mech is doing, not to mention the 700 gram weight saving.
As for riser bars - I've already said above that narrow bars dont suit me. The tires are temporary. Havent quite decided what I will be using to race on this year. I used Crossmarks last year, but they're a bit on the heavy side. we'll see
so many experts, perhaps some of you guys should race against this guy and see how you get on against him with your advantage of 3 rings.
Erm... Starrman28 was (still is?) pretty handy 😉
Thanks Chas 🙂
700 gram weight saving? where from?
shifter, cable, front mech and 2 chain rings?
are your cranks standard 3 ring type just with 1 ring?
Well that's decided it, my current race bike setup is 2x9 (22/36) 22 just incase, still not used the 22 this year so gonna drop them in favour of your setup!
Only thing which concerns me are those first couple of rides back after being ill where your legs could do with ease of a granny ring!
With that MRP thing do E13 do something similar?
Ok dirtbiker, maybe 700 was a bit amibitous - just added it up and its more like 570g. still pretty significant though!
Starrman - I suppose everyones technique is a little different. I havent found a course where 36x11 is too small - takes a lot to spin out at that speed. Newnham park was a bit steep for 36x34 though, for that one I could have done with something a little smaller!
Ah ha E13's version: [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=47875 ]http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=47875[/url]
Re-Newnham having had my 2x9 at that for the soggy bottom series not had to use granny at all so 1x9 is fine there as well! I guess long firetrail downhill's you'd spin out on but only really get them on marathons!
570g? Still not a chance IMO.
xc-steve, why not go for a bigger 2x9, slightly more versatile if you don't have the biggest legs, I like 28/40.
Student kitchen my arse! Since when does a student keep a kitchen that tidy & drink twinings tea, your giving students a bad name. 🙄 Nice bike though!I would change the tyres because they are crap.
Well planned on going for 26/36 but they wouldn't fit on my XTR cranks, so left my original 22 on, and swapped the original 32 with a 36 and haven't used the 22 at all... I suppose Ideally a 38 - 26 or 28 would be the best but it's cheeper and lighter to go 1x9!
weights from weightweenies:
44t ring: 80g
22t ring: 20g
sram front shifter: 252g
LX front mech: 170g
e13 ring is 15g lighter than XT 32t
30g for housing and cable
567g
[i]I havent found it very limiting so far: 36x11 is approx 44x13 [/i]
So all the folk in 44:11 are going to be going faster than you then...
weights from weightweenies:44t ring: 80g
22t ring: 20g
sram front shifter: 252g
LX front mech: 170g
e13 ring is 15g lighter than XT 32t
30g for housing and cable567g
+ chainguide.
Replace the shiters with XO gripshifters and you'll get your front mech and 26t inner for free (in terms of weight anyway).
You're right there Chris, I just found a big ring help smouth out the rough going but its probably just perception.
I guess for Gorrick style courses 1 chain ring would be fine.
Good luck with your season..:)
Sorry Daffy, I forgot to add that in to my calculation; the MRP is about 58g (claimed weight, I havent weighed it) so its just over 500g. I wouldnt even consider putting gripshift on my bike, cant stand it! but then both of my training partners swear by it so its down to the individual. My last years bike was a specialized epic which weighed in about 26lbs all together, so I dont think a few grams here and there is going to be felt by me at least.
Generally I'm pretty happy with how the bike is riding. Its taken me a bit of time to get the forks how I want them - a lot harder to set up than the F100's I had before, but I do like the handlebar lock out. Its not going to be great riding all day, or even for racing marathons, but thats not what its aimed for. I've got a lovely trail bike for the big days out too.
Which shifters are that heavy too? XXs are 185g per pair or sommat!
in the classified on southerndownhill there is a 2nd hand 36T e.13 for £15 come up this evening. trying not to press the buy button!
That's wickid awsum nice bike dude
njee20Which shifters are that heavy too? XXs are 185g per pair or sommat!
And £250 RRP!
That looks ace! Estimated weight should be in the region of "silly light".
Yeah, but a quick check suggests that X.9 ones only are 260g/pair, so that's another 125g you can take off the weight saving for going 1x9!
Should be fine for the Gorrick racing, as the only real steep ups are short enough to run up - except the long hill at the Enduro (up to where 'The Wife' starts), I can't get up there in anything other than a granny/34 combo...
Not sure my legs spin enough though to be able loose the big ring.
I ran 11-34 with a 34t front for ages, but I find the jump between gears too much for me when I am really trying and looking to get the next gear, 11-36 is even more of a jump.
I have swapped back to a tripple and am going to experiment with closer ratio cassettes next purchase is an 11-28, I rekon on that being my ideal, and a great close ratio spread using a std tripple up front.
The problem I found with running a close ratio cassette is the need to shift on the front the whole time, and the associated time lost.
Most Gorrick courses don't need anything smaller than a 36, there's never anything that steep, even the Wall as used in the Enduro isn't that bad, it comes back to the 'quicker to run' thing.
I still think something like a 28/40 2x9 with an 11-34 cassette covers the best range. I couldn't do a single ring personally, you've gotta have some strong legs/be used to low cadence climbing!
i ran duo for a couple years on 29:42 - with 11:34 - did all but 1 SXC in the 42 - the one sxc i did need the 29 for i really needed a 22 - it was like riding up a cliff face that round !
gone back to triple for XC racing - SS for endurance - 1x9 does appeal but i think id end up chopping and changing too much
njee20
I think thats the key, you gotta be really on it fitness wise to pull off a 1x9, and 11-34/36) cassettes.
I have'nt tried the close ratio as yet, still on 11-34, I might well find the same as you, but it will be a case of whats the best compromise for me. If I actually had more time to go riding am sure it would make more difference than any gear setup.
ps that Scott looks flippin ace.
I think it's about riding style as well, look as what SSers ride up on 2:1, 34/34 you're looking at 1:1, but I'd much rather be able to ride at a nice tempo rather than be mashing a huge gear at 30rpm.
It's becoming increasingly popular in the higher echelons of competition though, for some courses like Sherwood I can definitely see the point, but then I wonder if I wouldn't rather have a larger option so you're not constantly at the bottom of the block. For me, it's one area where the c200g weight saving would make me slower.
Was that the Contin one Terry?
This is so tempting. Need to get to Ae and scope it out.
know nothing of the course at the moment though
You're going to want more than one chainring.
I'm very tempted by 1x9 this year too, but I use my granny ring a lot more than the average racer (my legs are awfully spinny). I think it makes a lot of sense for most racers, not sure if I'm fit enough but I'm going to try it on my normal bikes first.
jcrompton- we were at Ae yesterday and I'll go way out and say it's the worst trail centre I've ever ridden. Not done Moray, but it's worse than the welsh ones by some margin. I'm glad they're not doing it on the XC course there!

