As per title really. Want to run one set of tubeless for the whole season.
Baby limus seemed fine last year so could go with that again
Wondering if I should try one of the schwalbe options instead though?
Unsupported so don't want to use one of the super mud conditions ones that picks up half the field as you ride round. If I have to run a couple of sections as a result it's not end of world
Anyone used both able to advise?
Cheers!
Sorry, just to confuse things, maybe a Terreno Wet or Terreno Mix?
Only reason I don't run the wet all the time is that they wear fast on tarmac. The mix seems fast and fun everywhere.
Crucially they're an easy tubeless install too...
Never really found anything that is good all season.
I used to ride clement pdx and could do all but the worst mud. Now owned by Donnelly but they are silly money.
It sort of depends how the season pans out and how muddy it gets at the back end. Last year wasn't too bad but 2019 was slop in the NE from October.
My favourite mud tyre is the X-one bite. If I could only run one tyre I'd probably choose that as it isn't mega slow in the dryer conditions. I didn't notice too much pick up but then we don't have much clay.
If you are feeling lucky and that it won't be a mud fest then the standard x-one should be good. Looks to be the same side knobs so you can corner and off camber. For the straights just try and weight backwards to get some traction...
Ok Thanks both! Maybe I'll stick with my scrubbed cross boss run over the summer for first few races and switch to a bite or terreno wet in October then
I just run Terreno Wet all year and adjust pressures to suit, they're not exactly slow in the dry and I'm not exactly fast enough to worry.
I find myself in a similar position to the OP. Signed up for a couple of CX races Sept/Oct went out to the garage to actually prepare early by putting my old tyres on a set of wheels I'd specifically built to run as my 'CX race wheels' first one went on and inflated no problem, but the bead didn't quite pop in, bit more air and Bang! Bead is shagged. No worries I think, I'll get the second one seated and then shop about for another... Did exactly the same, two buggered tyres and a couple of weeks to find replacements.
So I'm feeling the need for some new (full season) CX tyres the Terreno Mix appeals but do they cope reasonably in slop?
My favourite mud tyre is the X-one bite. If I could only run one tyre I’d probably choose that as it isn’t mega slow in the dryer conditions. I didn’t notice too much pick up but then we don’t have much clay.
Pretty much the above. I was surprised how well the bite rolls on hardpack.
So I’m feeling the need for some new (full season) CX tyres the Terreno Mix appeals but do they cope reasonably in slop?
If you're only using the wheels for CX then perhaps go Terreno Wet? I was out practicing my corners on wet grassy cambers last night with my Terreno Mix, certainly wouldn't have minded a bit more edge...
Too late, Merlin had the mix TNT in 31mm cheap so I just bought them last night.
I guess if they're really lacking I will have to find something better, I'm hoping for a dryish winter I suppose...
Last night's cross was the first slippy one, and compared to last weeks flat out race on hardpack I was suddenly mincing through the woods like Bambi on ice. I'm currently running G-One in 33mm, but my wheels/bike are older models so they are using tubes. Am I going to get a significant benefit by moving to tubeless? I never feel like I can get pressure right with tubes - they are high now (40psi +) as anything lower seems to puncture really easily, and I'm already feeling obstacles such as rocks/roots hitting the rim.
Tubeless will be miles better than tubes at 40psi on any wet or muddy track. You can race tubeless 20psi.
You can race tubeless 20psi.
This terrifies me! I'm still on tubes but regardless, at 35psi I'm already feeling the tyre bottom out and squirm on compressions and some corners. 20psi just sounds like crazy talk unless literally the whole course is muddy slogfest I suppose...
I run the tubeless MTB tyres at 24psi (ish, I'm 85Kgs) so that seems reasonable. I could see if my current wheels can manage a shonky tubeless fit (never had luck with that on older wheels), get new wheels (rim brakes and tubeless for CX?) or look at a new to me frame.
Or keep my fingers crossed for dry weather...
You can race tubeless 20psi.
This terrifies me! I’m still on tubes but regardless, at 35psi I’m already feeling the tyre bottom out and squirm on compressions and some corners. 20psi just sounds like crazy talk unless literally the whole course is muddy slogfest I suppose…
Mostly it comes down to rider weight, a 65kg whippet can go much lower than a chunkier rider (like me).
I tend to start with this:
https://axs.sram.com/guides/tire/pressure
And then adjust from the suggested value it gives...
I'm 95 Kg so I usually run 22/23 psi to be on the safe side - Float like a butterfly.
Surely half the fun of CX is trying to change tubeless tyres in the rain with 40 minutes to go before your race??
I have also been impressed with the terreno range. The dry does surprisingling well in wet grass and light mud and the wet seems pretty fast for the amount of grip. I sometimes feel the mix is a bit tracky but that is probably in my head (or my dodgy headset)