http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/scott-2016-plus-sized-mountain-bikes-revealed-44550/
Not sure I'd ever buy a Scott, but the Genius looks good
I'm not sure I like mountain bikes any more.
Are they not just the 29er models with more tyre room?
You cant link to BR from here you'll break the internets....
Lots of questionable comparisons there to make their figures look good. e.g. comparing the 3.0 tyres to the 2.8 (I'm not using 3.0 tyres) and comparing the rim weights of their 27.5+ rim to a 29er one at 30mm.
I'm not sure I like mountain bikes any more.
I'm inclined to agree.
best thing about this is more tyre choice for + hope some of them come over to 29+
There's no room on this band waggon Scott!
ratherbeintobago - Member
Are they not just the 29er models with more tyre room?
Basically, yeah. I quite liked the idea of plus sized tyres when it was just whacking them into 29ers. It's less likable when you suddenly need a new fork, front and rear hubs, rims, tyres, a wider spaced frame and offset spider - that's even more than needed replacing when they went from 26 to 27.5
ratherbeintobago - MemberAre they not just the 29er models with more tyre room?
that's how i see it.
which is no bad thing
god dam you bike industry for giving us choice 😆
god dam you bike industry for [s]giving us choice [/s] making all my existing parts obsolete so I can't pop into any shop and buy them anymore
I sort of see the point in this. Sounds like more weight for little advantage though.
god dam you bike industry for giving us choice
There is no choice, that's why people are so fed up with it all. A new wheelsize whilst still supplying those who want the old one is choice. Moving wholesale to a new wheelsize and then another less than 2 years later, totally removing support for the installed base and forcing a whole new bike to be bought when all you actually needed was a new tyre is taking the proverbial...
Either way, I was thinking about buying a new full suss but this has convinced me to keep my 26" Soul for as long as I can until the industry stops messing about. In the meantime, I'm riding mainly road, in part cos I can keep riding the bike I have... don't know about you but I don't have £2k+ every two years to buy a new bike
I think you're missing that there is choice - at least by my reckoning you can use 650b and 29er wheels in the same frame - that's choice of sorts.
650b+ isn't really a new wheel size, it's just 29er (give or take) with more clearance.
These at least continue to support those who are using 650b or 29er but yes, the dropping of 26" has been a different matter.
Why innovate when you can just make stuff slightly bigger(or smaller)
I'm not sure I like mountain bikes any more.I'm inclined to agree.
Me 3
There is no choice
Yes there is, but or don't buy
There is no choice
Yes there is, but or don't buy
Well, that's not really a choice, as you know. If you love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy, it's not a choice at all...
If you, like most people in the UK, are a bit skint, buying a new bike is not an option... so giving up is all there is to do...
I suppose it'll lead to more people like me crossing over to road, which is currently having a really positive effect on growing cycling participation overall, which is fantastic. Not sure that's the objective of the MTB industry though...
As a market growth strategy it's pretty stupid and smacks of desperation.
Whilst I sort of agree about the choice thing, it's like saying your carbon 29er hardtail is versatile because you could put 26" wheels with massive tyres on. Of course, no one does this because it'd be a compromised waste. If you make a bike and tune the geometry / suspension for 27+ it'll ride all wrong with 29er wheels and skinny tyres.
If you want a bike with big squidgy 27+ tyres then these new things are fine. But selling them as a versatile bike which can handle any wheel size is just misleading IMO.
The frustrating thing is that the industry doesn't seem to cater for the majority of riders in the UK. Or at least what I perceive the majority of enthusiasts want. We don't spend £4k on a bike, use it for a year and sell it on before buying something new - like you would a car for example. Perhaps people do that in other sales territories. There's much more of a culture of upgrades and swapping parts. I don't know whether this is just a UK thing and the bike industry doesn't really care about us or what. But I despair with all of these new standards.
The ideal bike for trail center strava heros.
I've got a Hugo and a trailblazer on my lapierre 514 and the late braking is great. Just tried them in an FF29 but only the scraper rims work. Now hunting for a compatible frame for a Hugo rim.. Anyone fitted a Hugo/trailblazer into anything?
clicked on link stopped at this
Go for Plus and find an entirely new riding experience”
As above the industry is just taking the piss as it has been doing for a few years. I dont want to spend 2 k every two years as there is nothing wrong with the ones I have
I want to be able to buy [ high quality] spares for my 26 " 9 speed non tapered bikes though
Every year a completely new standard. Its getting daft.
I'm not sure I like mountain bikes any more.
I'm inclined to agree.
Me 3
This! I got fed up with all the new 'standards' I ditched the mtb, bought a road bike and ride that now!
Yeah, but surely you do want Boost, JY 😉
Well, that's not really a choice, as you know. If you love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy, it's not a choice at all...
If you, like most people in the UK, are a bit skint, buying a new bike is not an option... so giving up is all there is to do...
I don't understand this. Can't you just keep using the bike you already have? Or are there sentry points on the trails blocking your path if your bike doesn't meet the shiny new standards?
Rigid single-speeds aren't [i]that[/i] bad.giving up is all there is to do...
I don't un5rstand this. Can't you just keep using the bike you already have? Or are there sentry points on the trails blocking your path if your bike doesn't meet the shiny new standards?
yes, of course I can. I still am.
Until something wears out - tyres, forks, wheels. It's a 26" Soul with 1 1/8 forks and headset and spares are already getting hard to find.
Couple of years ago I wanted lower rise bars. No more 25.4mm anywhere so I had to buy used - a long way from ideal and you have to buy what you can get, not what you want.
Tyres - currently running 2.25 Nobby Nics. Quick google search suggests when these wear out I'll be struggling to replace them...
And, really importantly, it's a premium bike, cost me premium prices. Usually when I buy a replacement bike I sell on the old one to help fund the new one. Who the hell's going to buy this one in a year's time if I'm struggling to get spares now? I can quite seriously see me having to take it to the dump... a premium bike that cost c£1800 to put together reduced to scrap metal... who wins here?
It's a bit like London housing, game the market so only the super-rich can participate... until all the buyers walk away in despair and you have no more customers... seriously, as a marketing strategy this is massively flawed. UK consumers don't have the ££ to spank like we have been for the last 15 years
edit: never mind, check this out:
Was not too bothered about the introduction of 650b but it's all getting a bit daft now. Certainly won't be buying new for a fair few years.
Either way, I was thinking about buying a new full suss but this has convinced me to keep my 26" Soul for as long as I can until the industry stops messing about. In the meantime, I'm riding mainly road, in part cos I can keep riding the bike I have... don't know about you but I don't have £2k+ every two years to buy a new bike
I suppose it'll lead to more people like me crossing over to road, which is currently having a really positive effect on growing cycling participation overall, which is fantastic. Not sure that's the objective of the MTB industry though...
This! I got fed up with all the new 'standards' I ditched the mtb, bought a road bike and ride that now!
Worst
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My road bike won't take a tapered fork of any description (1.25, 1.5, overdrive, anything).
My road bike won't take 27mm tyres (won't take 25's and raceblades either)
My road bike only takes 10s cassettes
My road bike can't fit a power meter due to the carbon cranks.
My road bike has gear cables that don't go under the bar tape, and external cable routing on the frame.
My road bike has round (ish) tubes, 19mm wide, 22mm deep rims. It's a f***ing miracle I make any progress at all on anything other than a completely calm day.
My road bike .............etc
Now, none of that actually makes it appreciably slower. And neither does not having 650b+ make a bike worse. Either you buy a new 650b+ bike because for you it's more fun/faster/whatever, or you buy a 29er, or a 650b, or whatever you like. [b]OR[/b] you stick with what you have, it's not suddenly gotten worse just because something else is now available.
All that's happened is [b]IF[/b] you want a new bike, there's now a bit more choice.
[b]IF[/b] you've suddenly been left behind on rides by someone on a new bike, it's not because they have a new bike, it's because you're not pedalling hard enough. Stop hanging around with MAMILS at the café and get some miles in the legs. Ride up grades not upgrades.
The ideal bike for trail center strava heros.
What utter bollocks
My road bike can't fit a power meter due to the carbon cranks.
So does my mtb - but I just run mismatched arms xx1 drive side, x9 non
thisisnotaspoon - Member
Worst
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EverMy road bike won't take a tapered fork of any description (1.25, 1.5, overdrive, anything).[b]Enve still make std steerer forks, so thats irrelevant![/b]
My road bike won't take 27mm tyres (won't take 25's and raceblades either)[b]you CAN still get top end tyres for it though![/b]
My road bike only takes 10s cassettes[b]Now youre just being silly, it will take 8,9,10 and yes even 11speed Cassettes[/b]
My road bike can't fit a power meter due to the carbon cranks.[b]Powertap, 4iii[/b]
My road bike has gear cables that don't go under the bar tape, and external cable routing on the frame.[b]maybe, but you can still REPLACE parts as they wear out[/b]
My road bike has round (ish) tubes, 19mm wide, 22mm deep rims. It's a f***ing miracle I make any progress at all on anything other than a completely calm day.[b]my heart Bleeds for you ;)[/b]
My road bike .............etc
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On my road bike, I can still get top end supa dupa wheels, and the best tyres, if I snap my forks I can still get top end replacements! In fact I can get replacements for all of it should I require them.
Try doing that for an mtb over a couple of years old!
So does my mtb - but I just run mismatched arms xx1 drive side, x9 non
It's an FSA chainset, I'm trying to avoid replacing the BB and eek out another few hundred miles as they've got so many variables even within their normal BSA/24mm BB systems! At the last count I think there were 5 options that all look like a shimano HT2 BB unless you get a micrometer out. Let alone trying to match it to another crank arm. Anyway, it was a joke at the idea that road bikes don't suffer from the same level of product development / upgrade-it is / obsolescence as MTB's, and that it really matters when you're riding.
On my road bike, I can still get top end supa dupa wheels, and the best tyres, if I snap my forks I can still get top end replacements! In fact I can get replacements for all of it should I require them.Try doing that for an mtb over a couple of years old!
Now, this was really hard work, I think I deserve a finders fee. 😛
No 150mm forks on there.
thisisnotaspoon - MemberNow, this was really hard work, I think I deserve a finders fee.
Applause, maybe given they seem to be last years model or used 😆
oh and as far as the obsolete road thing goes, one of my road bikes is a mid 90s Merckx, All modern groupsets and wheels still fit just fine!
Some people would actually give up mountain biking completely because a new wheel/tyre size became available... really?? LOL
Applause, maybe given they seem to be last years model or usedoh and as far as the obsolete road thing goes, one of my road bikes is a mid 90s Merckx, All modern groupsets and wheels still fit just fine!
+1 - my summer bike is 6 years old in November. Have upgraded bars, stem, wheels + put a new chain on since I bought it and if anything breaks or wears out it could be replaced with the same.
Road is trying to go through a similar process of forced upgrades - discs, electronic shifting, 25mm tyres but culturally, road is far more conservative and mired in heritage so hardly anyone's changing. Just a few noobs who're carrying their consumerism through from other parts of their lives 😯
Some people would actually give up mountain biking completely because a new wheel/tyre size became available... really?? LOL
I effectively have - I hardly ride MTB these days cos it's much cheaper generally to ride road.
And if I can't get replacement 26" tyres when these ones wear out and I don't have £2k to spank on a new bike... what happens then?
You do realise I'm just illustrating scenarios here don't you - to show how such a strategy is doomed to failure... if I was riding MTB every weekend like I used to, I'd find the ££. But you should remember not everyone's that wealthy anymore...
Must say that while you have a point in there, it's all rather hysterical.
You seriously hardly ride mtb because it's cheaper on the road? The mind boggles.
You can and will be able to get NOS and second hand (good condition) 26" stuff for years. Yes, you might not get the exact specific option you want but you'll easily get close and if cost is that big an issue then presumably you would get stuff that was on sale or decent value even if it's readily available.
You will get good second hand but you will struggle to replace anything that goes including the tyres and you may be seriously limited in your choice of available parts.
The industry makes it obsolete by not providing spares.
it would not be that bad if they were not doing it so blatantly and to just make as much money as possible. the reasons are not actually about making anything better for us or more choice as some suggest. its a blatant attempt to make you buy a new bike rather than upgrade
Depends how precious you are but I really don't believe you'd actually struggle that much. Tyres are available by the thousand IME - just go to any bike jumble and there are always stacks of decent tyres barely worn.
By precious you mean as long as you dont mind not being able to get what you want and not new either.
Lots of precious folk about then
Well, not exactly what you want. IME you can get close enough.
No 150mm forks on there.
The search term was SID 26, try revelation 26
2016 model too
I think you're being hysterical.
Meh, still riding around on a 26 inch HT with coil spring forks....just picked up some (brand new) forks for it that had been reduced by 50% because obviously nobody is buying 26 inch stuff any more....more fool them, the trails i ride havent changed because of 650b, 29ers or plus size tyres.
I cant help but think stuff like this is for people who live and breathe MTB-ing and MTB-ing only, they probably have it as their only hobby and therefore spend 2k+ every few years on a new bike complete with whatever new standards are floating around at the time and dont give a thought to the changing fixtures and fittings of said bike....the bike then appears complete on Ebay when they've finished paying it off and the cycle starts again.
I reckon people like me who buy a frame and then select components to build the bike up to my spec are diminishing....the industry doesnt want me to carry my forks over from build to build, it wants my forks obsolete in a couple of years so i have to eye up a new 2016 Stumpjumper or similar.
I'm skeptical about their stats saying 2.8 tyres only being 1% more draggy than smaller stuff, i know instantly when i've got a 2.5 on the back of my bike, it feels horrible compared to something narrower where outright speed is concerned....lies damn lies and statistics is the phrase isnt it?!
They are tapered steerer. Won't fit my 2010 bike. Not being hysterical at all. Just stating the bleeding obvious that spare parts for not that old bikes are getting fewer.
http://www.merlincycles.com/rockshox-revelation-rct3-dual-position-forks-26-65815.html
Others here
http://www.merlincycles.com/suspension-forks-81180/?brand=rockshox&wheel_size=26-
Yes, you are right of course, there is less out there but still enough to keep going with no real issues for now.
Good news for those of us looking for B+ tyres, rims and forks. I just wish Shimano would hurry up with the XT cranks.
It's definitely going to be more difficult to keep an old bike going with higher end kit.
I guess its a choice between buying cheaper stuff (less grippy tyres, forks with more basic damping, "Altus" level 9 speed stuff etc.) or buying a new bike every so often.
My issue with this is based purely on my inability to make a decision. This just adds an extra layer to my decision tree, meaning I'll sit on the internet procrastinating for months instead if actually buying a new bike/bits. I genuinely envy people who are able to easily walk into a shop & part with their money, and actually enjoy all this innovation whilst I stare miserably at my Wiggle shopping basket unable to click the button.
Well, that's not really a choice, as you know. If you love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy, it's not a choice at all...
If you, like most people in the UK, are a bit skint, buying a new bike is not an option... so giving up is all there is to do...
Cobblers. I had to buy a new bike a few months ago (broken frame on the old one). Second hand, eBay, £165. 26" wheels. It might be (okay, it is) heavier and generally not as good as a brand new £2K bike but on the other hand it does allow me to
love mountain biking and use it to keep physically and mentally healthy
so I don't really care.
I'll also add that looking at the 'show us your Alps bike thread' on here that 650b and plus sized tyres havent really filtered down to the harder side of MTB-ing yet....plenty of awesome looking 26 inch stuff on that thread running coil springs, normal sized tyres etc....ditto for the grass roots DH stuff i've done this year and pretty much all the uplift days too....
...who is buying this stuff because i never see it on the trails, being raced or being loaded onto the uplift trailer?!
(dons flame proof suit)...I hate to say it but this does all seem aimed at the middle aged, middle management, new comers to the sport who love a bit of trail centre carpark posing....nothing wrong with that as such, the marketing men have obviously done their research and worked out these guys and girls have the money to spend on new bikes every few years and push their products accordingly....but its the 'hey buy this its 1% better rolling than your current tyres' that annoys me....'and by the way you'll need Boost hubs, a new frame, fork etc...in fact why dont i show you our fantastic finance deals while we have a coffee'....that really grates.
Just feels like MTB-ing is becoming some kind of horrible aspirational golf substitute for mid-life crisis men who want the 'buying a new car' butt kissing experience from a salesman as they hand over their credit card for a flipping bike.
It's certainly put me off changing which is i think the opposite of what i am supposed to feel...i think i'm supposed to feel panic that my bike has become crap overnight and rush out to buy a new one but all it does is make me dig my heels in and make sure i have spares for my existing bikes when i see them reduced in sales.
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
And on that note, I'm off to ride my 26" bike in the rain 🙂
And if I can't get replacement 26" tyres when these ones wear out
I'd be willing to bet that you'll still be able to find new 26-inch MTB tyres from somewhere long after the rest of your bike has worn out.
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
Nailed it for me.
Marketing men say whatever nonsense needs to be said to justify the 'innovation' they're pushing this year....a huge pinch of salt is always recommended.
It's why i watch whats happening in racing from grass roots all the way to World Cups to see what actually works and what the riders jettison after a brief experiment and failure.
I may be wrong and 27.5+ may sweep the EWS, the BDS, the UKGE and the World Cup DHs by storm annihilating previous PB's, track records and the like....in which case i'll be first in line to hand over my money....but this all smacks a bit of desperation by the industry.
How about doing something worthwhile and getting rid of rear mechs?...where are the lightweight gear box bikes?...why do we still have spokes and wheels that go out of true?....
...all too difficult i suspect, instead lets convince a gullible public that going from a 2.5 rear to a 2.8 rear will really make all the difference out on a ride!
What makes me laugh is the way that the industry changes what's important to suit their needs. A few years back, when they were pushing 29ers, all you ever heard about was speed. "Look our new bike is x% faster than whatever crap you are riding". Now they want to push plus sized stuff suddenly speed doesn't matter at all and it's all just about "fun". "Don't worry about the fact that it's heavier and slower, just look how much more fun we are having than you".
no, what your doing there is just focusing on one aspect of the range and the press release of the day
Scott haven't dumped the rest of the range, they still do a whole host of fast 29ers
http://www.scott-sports.com/us/en/products/238230009/SCOTT-Scale-900-RC-Bike/#productdetail
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience. Manufacturers improvements seem to be more And more marginal, just different rather than better, and we seem to have model months rather than model years, and each product cycle seems to be a cynical minor improvement where you can't help but think they already know the next 2 iterations of the products and could include them all now but holding them back would make more money. Enduro and bike packing look really fun new directions but the bikes were being flogged to do it are getting less fun.
road seems simpler and funner at the moment, but BUT I'm not naive enough to think it isn't coming in road, with discs, hubs , axles, even wheel sizes now.
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
really? you know it is possible to ignore the industry and go ride a bike, any bike
I know you can ignore it but I like my sport. I like talking about it, reading about it and doing it. I object to manufacturers spoiling my enjoyment of the first two by pumping out increasingly cynical guff.
[i]I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
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No way! Just because there are a bunch of stupid looking new bikes to buy/look at/write about. Doesn't mean the riding has changed. Still the best thing in the world.
I think the point is mountain biking is becoming a joyless experience.
I built a new bike this year, big wheels and called an enduro to really hit all the marketing bingo points. It is ****ing amazing, I mean really ridiculously ****ing amazing, it is the best bike I have ridden by a long long way, I wish I could have bought this bike 10 or 5 years ago, but I couldn't, but thank **** I can buy it now because it is amazing and I smile like mad every time I ride it.
Mountain biking hasn't become a joyless experience, it is just that a bunch of whining joyless curmudgeons who keep trying to bring everybody else down to their miserable level.
It's joyless to those who absolutely need to be seen with the latest, newest kit and now find they can't afford to keep up.
So scott are selling an (almost) fat bike with a motor - is that not a motocross bike??
Re. the joy of riding, how often do you actually look at what you or other people are riding on the trail?
[quote=scotroutes opined]It's joyless to those who absolutely need to be seen with the latest, newest kit and now find they can't afford to keep up.
I really dont care what I want is to be able to adequately fix what I have.
I cannot so I am a bit miffed that rather than spend money on say some forks I need to buy a frame and forks and wheels and a new seatpost.
Its not made me love the industry or the sport anymore but it wont stop me riding either.
What JY said. I understand that some companies have built businesses around it, but it's my way of enjoying myself. The fact that we are just being so obviously used as cash cows is seriously tainting it for me.
On the plus side, my 26 has a crack and is still in warranty. It is highly unlikely that the manufacturer will have any spare swing arms so this means BRAND NEW FRAME!!!!
Cheers 650B!
I don't get the hysteria about new kit. If you don't want it or can't afford it, don't buy it! As for joyless, I bought an "enduro" style Five just over a year ago and I haven't stopped smiling since. The gear we have these days (droppers, 150/160mm forks which arnt anchors and don't need much servicing, 1x11 gearing and frames which are light enough to climb up but burly enough to hit a downhill run) is in my opinion the best we've had it, you reallt can have one bike to do it all! And on the other side of the coin, if you really do feel these parts are pointless and take the fun out of the sport just ride what you have until it breaks and then when the time comes to replace it, simply buy the best bike you can afford at the time; you know, like you did when you bought your last one?
What's all that crap hanging down from the BB? Crap place for cables
OMG it's also the brake hose running loosely under the BB. Will I die?
like Bright said,
only been in mtb since 08, and since then, there has always been change! 8 speed was in, 9 speed on the way
people have short term memory's as for joyless experience, read less, ride more .................
I think the thing that bothers me about B+, is the way it started as "Here's a thing you can do with your existing bikes". And so it was for a little while, then you could see the gears shift as the industry realised it wasn't going to sell any new bikes.
What we actually need, is good info on what existing bikes will take b+ wheels and tyres.
So scott are selling an (almost) fat bike with a motor - is that not a motocross bike??
No, it would need 21" front and 19" rear wheels. I'm still annoyed that they changed the rear from 18 to 19.
badbob - Memberonly been in mtb since 08, and since then, there has always been change! 8 speed was in, 9 speed on the way
people have short term memory's
So it would seem!
You're about 10 years late there, 9 speed was introduced in 98 ❗
[quote=deviant ]I'm skeptical about their stats saying 2.8 tyres only being 1% more draggy than smaller stuff, i know instantly when i've got a 2.5 on the back of my bike, it feels horrible compared to something narrower where outright speed is concerned....lies damn lies and statistics is the phrase isnt it?!
Yeah, I'm also sceptical - I'd expect the wider tyre to be faster on proper off road bumpy stuff, as all the tests show that wider is faster up to more normal widths. When comparing like with like that is. You are comparing like with like aren't you? What XC spec 2.5 is that you have?
[quote=wrecker ]On the plus side, my 26 has a crack and is still in warranty. It is highly unlikely that the manufacturer will have any spare swing arms so this means BRAND NEW FRAME!!!!
Cheers 650B!
You reckon? Got a new swingarm for my 26" 2007 Scott last year when they'd left that wheelsize behind, and more pertinently moved on from the frame design I had over 5 years before.
I've always been very sceptical about the whole 27[s].5[/s] business - though I can see the advantages of 29, which is what I'd be getting if I was buying a new bike. The plethora of new wheel standards (rim, tyre, axle) is a bit ridiculous. Though I have to admit to being kind of pleased at the emergence of B+ for my little niche - I have a 29er frame which has enough width to take a 3" tyre but not quite enough crown height for 29+, whilst I'd like a fatter tyre I'm happy with the diameter/gear ratio I have with my 29, if anything a tiny bit lower gear would be fine. I reckon I'll now be getting B+ rather than the planned mid-wide 29 when I build a new wheel for it.
[quote=TheDoctor ]You're about 10 years late there, 9 speed was introduced in 98
Are you splitting the difference between 9 speed and 9 speed MTB? Because 98 isn't quite right for either 😉
These threads are getting amazingly silly.
Bunch of curmudgeonly old chaps sitting around on the internet grousing about how a new bike from Scott has sucked the joy out of mountainbiking and forced you to give up.
Some of you are increasingly sounding like those Australians who're going to get divorced because [url= http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/couple-divorce-marriage-equality-australia_n_7558506.html ]The Gay Has Ruined Marriage[/url] for them. (Less unpleasant, obvs., but nearly as.... peculiar.)
😉
There's some relentlessly angry responses on these sorts of threads these days!
26" is still the dominate wheel size, by a hugely wide margin, the idea that you won't be able to buy tyres or rims or spokes is laughable
tapered steerers have been around and mainstream for at least 5 years now, and yet still you can get straight steerer versions of pretty much every fork, and still in 26" versions
26" is still the dominate wheel size, by a hugely wide margin, the idea that you won't be able to buy tyres or rims or spokes is laughable
Clearly it is laughable for now at least . But the issue for many is the quality of what will be available. I had heard specialised (unconfirmed and not picking on them) had ditched some or all of its 26" tyre range, which are really good value, decent quality tyres for those on a reduced/careful (not tight) budget.
So if others at the £30 tubeless ready, grip ok, price point follow suit this will have some impact on those who can't afford to make the wheel size leap in terms of quality of riding.
Ultimately we may/will see this on forks, rims and other parts.
This matters more than the switch from say 25.4 stems to 31.8 etc because the cost of change from old good quality to new good quality is astronomically different.
[i] you can get straight steerer versions of pretty much every fork, and still in 26" versions[/i]
but not with QR!