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http://m.evanscycles.com/products/roval/traverse-tubeless-ready-650b-275-wheelset-ec071197
In the market for some new 650b rims for my spicy.
I'm after some wide but light wheels. Anyone know what these weigh. Hubs have dt internals so should be good, nice and wide.
Any other suggestions. Not hope on flows please. Been there, worn the dented and bent t-shirt.
I have some traverse ELs in 26 inch flavour and they are pretty good, hubs are DT 240s. Weight is lower than hope on flows and they are pretty stiff.
I prefer the oozy on pro 2 evos on my full susser but these come close.
Are the traverse el's the same as what I'm looking at? 29 mm internal width? Can't find a review anywhere. Plenty on the new 30 mm rim, none on this one
No they're 22mm so not the same, sorry! From what I hear traverses are generally pretty good though, and you can't go wrong with a DT hub
The traverses i had on my 2013 stumpy eve were awful, lasted 8 months before i had to replace them, way too flex for me. Replaced mine with some flows which have been spot on for just as long now.
which traverses where they phil? 29mm internal width ones as I linked to?
They're not the same model but I've got some older Traversee ELs- good wheels, but hampered by bloody stupid straight pulls and poor parts support (there was 15mm adaptor, for instance, but Specialized can't supply it any more). Wouldn't buy them again, just because of the inherent problems of "wheel systems" compared to proper wheels.
(what I would do is- find a set of used DT240 hubs in a cheap undesirable 26 inch wheelset, the EX1750 is ideal- crap rims. Buy them for £100-£150, build them onto the rims of your choice.)
I've got a set that came with my stumpjumper evo expert, I honestly expected to have to bin them so kept my Flows on hopes, in the end I sold the hopes!
They are the 28mm ones, 18 months later, they're still straight got a couple of dings in the rims but then my flows were dinged to high heaven. I'm pretty hard on wheels and have had no issues.
My only gripe is the straight pull spokes!!! I've broken 3 in the rear wheel so far and they are next to impossible to get hold of unless you want a box, nobody seems to stock them.
where di you get the spokes from in the end?
I'm pretty sure I've found a review, and the weight looks to be circa 1700.. might be onto a winner.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-roval-traverse-fattie-wheels-2015.html (the non carbon ones obviously)
Abigale and me have been running Traverse ELs for some time now and so far they have been great. Use them most weekends in the Peak and for Alps trips. Abigale had five weeks in the Alps with hers this year and I had three. I managed to break on spoke when a rock hit them and another when the wheel got caught on the trailer. Spokes are a pain to get but I got a few at once, ordered from Specialized via J E James, delivered in a couple of days. Still running as true as when we bought them and very light.
Thanks. Look worth a punt defiantly. I'll let you all know how I get on!
FWIW I've always chosen not to take my Els out to the alps, I don't think they're up to it (for me)- I've found their limits a few times at home. Not a criticism, that- they're extremely light for the job I asked them to do, so a bit of failure is entitled.
I run Traverse 26" wheels on a couple of bikes. I like them but I'm a "wheels don't leave the ground much" sort of rider so they get a fairly easy time.
I was attracted to the DT Swiss hub internals, adapters were available, lowish cost (especially second hand), and they looked ok.
A couple of things to add...mine are fairly old now, so this might not be the case with the newer ones, but the ones I've got have a few spokes that are a different colour (it's a "feature", I'm told) and I had an issue with them not fitting into my pikes using the 20mm adapters until I noticed a washer or seal that had been left in there when I removed the factory fitted 25mm adapters.
Not sure if it's still the case, but Ringle did do straight pull spokes in the right length when I toasted a lot of mine in a rear wheel.
Mine were the 28mm wide ones, grey stickers on them.
This was my bike... http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/stumpjumper-fsr-comp-evo-2013-mountain-bike-ec042228
My mate had a set and change them for some flows.
Riding south wales and uplifting BPW, Cwmcarn and FoD a lot tests any wheelset tho, kept snapping spoked and they kept going out of true badly.
I've been looking at the same wheelset as the OP but have the same concerns as Northwind really. The spoke counts are odd although I think it is easy enough to get spare SP spokes eg from Germany.
Another wide and light alu rim is this one from Ryde http://www.justridingalong.com/parts/wheel-parts/rims/trace-enduro-rim.html
Can you get any discount on Specialised wheels? If you have to pay full whack it won't end up much cheaper then a light bicycle carbon build.
Northwind - Member
They're not the same model but I've got some older Traversee ELs- good wheels, but hampered by bloody stupid straight pulls and poor parts support (there was 15mm adaptor, for instance, but Specialized can't supply it any more). Wouldn't buy them again, just because of the inherent problems of "wheel systems" compared to proper wheels.(what I would do is- find a set of used DT240 hubs in a cheap undesirable 26 inch wheelset, the EX1750 is ideal- crap rims. Buy them for £100-£150, build them onto the rims of your choice.)
We were chatting about the 15mm adapters a couple of months ago - my brother was able to get them from a bike shop in Edinburgh - either alpine bikes or the bike coop, cant remember which. They had to be ordered in from spesh and it took a few weeks.
I've just ordered them in at he local bike shop (cycle store congleton). They will come in on Thursday so ill let you know how I get on.
They are brand new with few reviews around so it's a bit of a punt. The reviews of the non carbon speak enduros they come fitted to are positive about the wheels.
I've got a set of mavic en 321's that came with the bike that I'll shove some dh tyres on and use for knary places to spare the rovals.
Cycle store have no issues getting spare spokes.
rudedog - MemberWe were chatting about the 15mm adapters a couple of months ago - my brother was able to get them from a bike shop in Edinburgh - either alpine bikes or the bike coop, cant remember which. They had to be ordered in from spesh and it took a few weeks.
Coop sent me the wrong ones and can't track down the right ones for my wheels 🙁 Roval_Joe on MTBR's drawn a blank too, he reckons they were either never available, or have been deleted.
Spokes are OK though (well, EBS ordering randomness aside...)
Northwind,
Just popping you an email with a DT Swiss Technical document, hoping it can help if you need end caps. Thinking if they are DT Swiss internals you may strike it lucky.
Cheers for the thought, they're not DT unfortunately- the rears use entirely DT internals, axles, endcaps etc but the fronts use their own spacers.
I've got a spare set of 20mm ones so I might machine them down and press in a 15mm adaptor or something. It's still a lot better than trying to get parts from Fulcrum 😉
Ah nackers, sorry it is no help.
hope you are joking about the Fulcrums, got some xl 29ers on my bike atm! argghh
A set of those came on my Stumpy Evo. Although i wouldn't say i'm hard on wheels, they do take a bit of a battering from time to time. The front does look a little weedy spoke-wise but so far, so good. Back has a few minor dings but looks straight and has plenty of the stiff. Running tyres (with tubes) at at least 30psi if that makes a difference to the chaps who had problems?
I gather these "fattie" wheels are all new, not really related much to the old Traverse's.
Picked the wheels up yesterday.
Initial signes are good. Straight out of the box they had tubeless rim tape perfectly installed, and nice aluminium tubeless valves already in place.
Piece of paper in the box from the person who hand built them showing individual spoke tensions.
1730g on kitchen scales with the valves in and tape on, so usefully light for a stiff 650b rim.
the 29mm internal width, makes my 2.2 rear trail king look enormous, and the 2.4 look almost ridiculous! (in a good way), tyre profile looks great. tyres went up tubeless easilly and held pressure overnight first go.
First proper non curb hopping test run tonight, so we'll see what happens. I'm chuffed so far!
I've just walked into this problem with the finding the 15mm end caps.
Looks like they've been deleted from the specialized parts website. Anyone found a solution yet?
Any other brands fit instead?
I've more or less given up so will be going down the machining route I think, but haven't quite decided the best way yet. I think for me it'll be shortening a set of 20mms then adding a tophat into it to bring it down to 15mm and make sure the cap ends fit into forks.
Northwind you can get 15mm spacers - Specialized Concept Store got ours in. If you still can't get some I can get images and set of measurements for you if you want to get some machined up?
Yeah, they definitely did exist but it seems like they're now deleted. Cheers though!
I think I'll just modify the existing parts though, should be pretty straightforward. And also, makes me seem much more capable than I actually am. Unless I lathe myself in the balls or something, which would make me seem as capable as I actually am.
How could i go about getting some machined?
As you may have detected, you don't want your safety to be dependent on my skillz. But once I figure out sizing etc I can pass that on, it'll be a simple job to get an existing spacer modified.
Making one from scratch is beyond me and I'm not really qualified to comment tbh but it'd be a fairly simple piece of work for a proper machinist I think.
Thanks northwind, any advice on sizing and method to adapt the 20mm ones would be greatly appreciated. I should be able to find a machinist round here to help do it
I had a set too. Viewed as a relatively wide, light XC and trail bike wheelset they don't disappoint. But they're a sub 1600g wheelset with only 24/28 spokes, so you have to ask yourself how much snide you're prepared to subject them too.
My views echo Northwinds... I was impressed with them for a lightweight wheelset, but they were flexier than a heavier alternative, though in fairness, I never broke/bent one (they did have to be trued a few times, and the ally nipples don't help there).