[Closed] Ritchey road logic 2.0

They say this one is heat-treated (like 853) and triple butted - which doesn't sound like gas-pipe to me.

853 is heat treated, but it's the air hardening that makes it 'special'. On the principal that they'd shout from the rooftops if it was anything but ordinary, it's probably just heat treated Cr-Mo, equivalent to Reynolds 725, which is the same material as 525 but heat treated.

I don't doubt that it's a good frame, well designed etc etc (although personally I don't like the paint). My reservation is that it's a Cr-Mo frame for £700, that's Bob Jackson money. One of those cases where it cost more therefore must be better?

I have not ridden a Road Logic (unfortunately) but I do own a Ritchey Swiss Cross as well as a double-butted 4130 steel framed bike and the difference between the two is significant. The Ritchey is far more comfortable - it seems to absorb the shocks and vibrations far better - and it just seems far more alive in comparison. It really does have a springy response. Whatever the triple butted tubing actually is, it's a fantastic frame and it makes me want to give a Road Logic a try.

Got a Ritchey Logic 2.0 last year in 55cm
Ive set it up very racey im 6ft 1. ultegra group set light superstar climbing wheels and id say for steel bikes i own its the stiffest for sprinting and yet gives a very nice ride for munching miles. Its very light for steel but that does mean you've got to treat it well. Im not going back to a carbon frame having got one.

Got mine for Acycles last year and once it was instock they sent it pretty quick.

As the Genesis Volar was going to cost me £200 more than the Ritchey it was a no brainer

Well I couldn't resist and have bought a used (but indistinguishable from new) one with a full Ultegra groupset. There are some parts which will go straight away, namely the silver Ritchey finishing kit. I'll have to make do with de stickering the rims for now but it's fitted with a DT Swiss R23 Spline wheelset which seems light enough until I can save some pennies for a set of Archetypes or similar.

I haven't weighed it but it's certainly a lighter than my carbon Ribble, (perhaps not surprising given its 105 build)

The aim is to take it from this.
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To something vaguely resembling this (albeit on a modest budget)

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I'd love to be able to tell you how it rides but it's going to be an agonising 6 week wait until my knee heals...

Just buy a Merckx Corsa Extra off eBay for £300. Or a MX Leader for £400.

I have a Reynolds 525 frame and it weighs more than Pluto and rides like a dead rhino. Exaggeration added for comedic effect but it really is not lively in any way.

Mine's finished for now but not yet set up properly for me until I get rid of these bloody crutches.

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Roll on spring!

Nice build. That second photo up there is lovely. Does look better with a shorter headtube but I guess there's not much you can do about that. Hope you get ride of the crutches soon and are able to give it a damn good thrashing 🙂

Shweet. Bring back steel road bikes I say.

*Love* my Kapu

Holy Thread resurrection Batman!

Cos I'm after some more pics of your built bikes... FINALLY got round to ordering myself a frame, so looking for build inspiration right now... So get posting pics of your lovely bikes.

Still loving mine and haven't changed anything on it since my original pic above. It's my only road bike and I've been doing regular rides of 50-70 miles and it is just a lovely thing. Doing the Manchester 100 on it tomorrow.

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Here's mine. I was aiming for campag but my mate gave me some dura-ace shiney bits that i fell in love with. I've a pathalogical dislike for modern shimano chainsets so went praxis. Oh and gatorskins as they have a hint of tan sidewalls. Anyhow, it's a thing of aesthetic and engineering beauty, the paint colour is excellent, despite being mitsubishi metalic grey, and it rides very sweetly whatever form of tripple butted gas pipe tom built it from. I will be keeping this forever though the bar tape, qrs and wheels are likely to change. [url= https://www.flickr.com/gp/69739720@N00/89V7Xw ]Here on flickr[/url]

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Grrr - how do you embed flickr photos on a singletrackworldritcheyroadlogic2 thread?

What wheels currently jonwe?

Those are mavic elites. Some deeper carbon rims might look better.

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Mboy please share your build pics as you go.

In response to some earlier comments comparing these frames to others, I disagree and rate the ritchey over the Genesis and Planet X by some margin.
I build bikes for a living so get to ride loads without the 'I've just spent loads of cash so I'll tell myself it's good' bias
I used to own a px pompino (SIS version of a kaffenback) the geometry was great and it handled well but it was heavy, far more than advertised, had the dead feeling people speak of (in case you don't know this feeling, when you hit a bump on a high end steel bike it absorbs the impact and the releases that energy like a spring which makes it feel sprightly, the cheaper steel absorbs the impact and then... Nothing. It's a bit like a suspension fork with the rebound wound to full.
The px was great for touring but when rode fast it was uninspiring.
The Genesis was a real disappointment to me (my opinion contridicts other reviews and is only my opinion) I had seen them from prototype stages at the shows and it was clear Genesis made a real effort with it, but to me it's if they are trying to make a carbon bike from steel and it's beyond me why you would use a pressfit bb on a steel bike, on carbon it's cheaper and lighter not to have to bond in a threaded alloy shell but on a steel frame I can see no benefit. The ride was I similar story, stiffer than other steel bikes I've ridden but ride comfort was affected, it felt like a heavy low end carbon frame.
The ritchey is a work of art, lovely paint and the fingernail tap test reveals some heavily butted tubes.
They ride well, comfortable in the saddle and lively out of it, if you mash big gears or are on the heavy side it will flex laterally but for me this is not a problem.
In fact I've just brought one to build up in to be my comfortable all day riding bike.

Cos I'm after some more pics of your built bikes...

Mine was built by some ropey bike shop in the Black Country, you could ask them if they kept any pics 😉

Nice these. Anyone run them with guards? Much room to spare? Know they don't have eyelets but I'm thinking of something like the PDW ones.

Well it arrived this morning, and it's about to get built up! Just weighed it, bang on 1.75kg (3lb 14oz) for a 53cm frame. Not too bad I thought, anyway... Will hopefully have some pics of it built for tomorrow.

Nice these. Anyone run them with guards? Much room to spare? Know they don't have eyelets but I'm thinking of something like the PDW ones.

Was wondering the same question myself. Anyone tried the PDW's or anything similar on the Ritchey?

No. But I'd be interested to see how you get on if you do. 😀

@ExplosifPete - Are you talking about the Volare? That's a bit more race focussed no? Meant to be stiffer surely?

Nice subject 🙂

Seeing this reminds me to take a photo of mine and post it up. Have only done a couple of hundred kilometres or so on it and the steerer badly needs cutting down...

Thanks again for the advice, Bregante! Glad to see that you are no able to get some miles in on it.

Well... Just thrown mine together (not literally of course), but it's now dark so I neither have anywhere to take a decent photo or any lights to give it a ride. So will do that tomorrow. In the meantime, spec as follows...

53cm Ritchey Logic Road Frame
Zipp Service Course SLC 44cm Bar
Zipp Service Course SL 110mm Stem
Zipp Service Course SL Layback post
SRAM Red 10spd setup in 36/52 chainset, WiFli Rear mech, Yaw front mech (decided wasn't worth selling it just to fit 11spd 2 rungs down)
Ultegra 6700 12-30 cassette
PYC 10spd chain (a freebie)
Tektro R540 brakes (another freebie)
PRO Turnix Saddle
Shimano RS61 wheels (for now) with 25c Schwalbe One Tubeless tyres
Look Keo Max 2 pedals

It's pretty light, 8.3kg inc pedals and cages is not to be sniffed at for steel, especially considering the budget wheels!

Love these! I spotted my first one in a shop the other day and couldn't stop coming back to it, despite there being various other bikes costing 5 times more. There's something so right about the tube size and the frame proportions.

Mboy, if you ever sell- let me know 😆

Mboy, if you ever sell- let me know

Your number is on speed dial mate! 😉

Anyway... Here it is...

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Probably gonna change the wheels at some point, nothing wrong wth the RS61's per se but they're not the most inspiring ride, even for the money.

White bar tape and saddle eh, who's idea was that?

Needs steel bottle cages.

And here's mine... 57cm.

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10sp Shimano 105 groupset from the Scott CR1 Pro before it
Deda stem and bars
Easton carbon seatpost
Borg 22 Wheelset from The Cycle Clinic (Kinlin XR22 on Miche Primato hubs)
Veloflex Open Corsa 25mm tyres

May well go for a bike fit as a birthday present to myself next month, so bought cheap bars and stem. Currently using Time ATAC mtb pedals at the moment; I do have new cleats for the road shoes, so would have them fitted next month. Would also get steerer cut to appropriate length then.

Does look better in a smaller size, though that goes for most bikes, especially skinny tubed ones.

mboy, that'd look great with some 40mm rims, slammed, and black saddle and bar tape 🙂

Bit like this one...

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Does look better in a smaller size, though that goes for most bikes, especially skinny tubed ones.

Yeah, kinda know what you mean - down to wheel size and proportion, perhaps - but then I can't help being 6'1". Many opine that bikes like this look good with deep rim wheels, too.

imo the 57cm looks proportionally 'right'.

Thanks again for the advice, Bregante! Glad to see that you are no able to get some miles in on it.

No problem. Glad to see you got one and hopefully some of the stuff I was trying to describe to you now makes sense. It's certainly got about about a bit over the past few months.

What's that, more pics? OK then.

Yorkshire
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Wales
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Outside the weekend place 😉
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In the kitchen the night before the Mcr 100
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Looks pretty good; could do with less spacers, a -8 or 10 degree stem to match the top tube angle, short cage rear mech, a nicer chainset like a Rival 10 speed with different rings.

Glad you approve 😉

Heavy sigh...

Awesome bikes.. Sadly 7 months down the line and now with two rugrats it's looking less likely of me ever getting round to buying one

Just out of interest where are you all buying from ? And is it still avail in the sexy grey ?

Glad you approve

Well, it wasn't aimed at you.....but smae applies 😉

But your stem is too short aswell......

And I was being facetious. I couldn't give a toss whether you approve or not. 😆

brack - mine was second hand (actually third hand - I believe it originally belonged to Denis99 off here before the lad I bought it off). When I was looking though Acycles were the cheapest for the new frameset at just over £700. I think hora got his from there without any issues.

imo the 57cm looks proportionally 'right'.

I agree. I think skinnier steel frames look better in the larger sizes, new fangled carbon frames better in medium.

Same goes for wheels; skinny steel, skinny rims, save the deep sections rims for carbon racers.

I couldn't give a toss whether you approve or not.

You should take my comments on board; you'll end up with a prettier bike for it

I bought mine from acycles. I think it was circa £600 then. Speedy delivery. I've just bought a Mavic Elippse rear wheel(sp?) too from them too.

Tbh build it how you want. Not what some bloke says you should do with your wages (sorry but true).

I had 2014 Ulegtra groupset, really didn't like it, much prefer my current Tiagra to Ultegra. More a solid feel. Fair to say?

looks pretty good; could do with less spacers, a -8 or 10 degree stem to match the top tube angle, short cage rear mech, a nicer chainset like a Rival 10 speed with different rings.

Herein lies the dilemma I faced... Buy the 53 (as I did) and run 30mm of headset spacers, or buy the 55 and only require 10mm of spacers but the ETT is too long for me. I could of course have gone for the 55 and fitted a 90mm stem, but felt that would dull the handling a little and make it look like I'd bought a bike that was too big for me. I'm only 5ft10 but have relatively long legs and a short torso for my height, so my saddle to bar drop is never very impressive I'm afraid. Tape measure suggests that all the contact points on the Ritchey are near as makes no difference in the same place as they were on the 55cm KTM Revelator I was running for the last 2 1/2 years that donated the parts, and it's near enough the same as my Large (Italians are tiny it would seem) Wilier Zero7.

Debated building it up with 10spd Rival I have lying about, but was getting silly low offers for the 10spd Red stuff so decided just to keep it and use it. I prefer the Chainset anyway...

White bar tape and saddle eh, who's idea was that?

I went through hundreds of images on Google, and on the whole, the Ritchey's look better with white saddle and tape IMO. As a rule, I hate white bar tape as its a total faff, but I had some lying around that cost me nothing (customer wanted some new black tape on their new bike and paid for it) so tried it out. Already had the White saddle (have the same in black on other bikes) too so didn't cost a penny to experiment at least.

mboy, that'd look great with some 40mm rims, slammed, and black saddle and bar tape

Got a near enough stealth bomber carbon bike already, a Wilier Zero7 in Matt black, SRAM Red eTap, 42mm Carbon Reynolds Assaults, though again not slammed as I'm not flexible enough... The Wilier is very much a sunny Sunday best bike, the Ritchey is supposed to be something I can just jump on any time and get some miles in (albeit on something that's still pretty exciting to ride and light enough that it won't hold me back), so ally rims are the order of the day I'm afraid.

So... Everyone running 25's or is anyone taking advantage of the tyre clearance and running 27/28mm tyres on theirs?

I considered some 28's but read that the Vittoria G+ come up slightly big and there's some stuff (possibly on mtbr but I can't remember) about it being a very tight fit on a lot of 28's.

On a different note, I think I've found my N+1

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