[Closed] RIP Tinbred ebb

Gets in a crate of cider, pulls up the comfiest chair in the house, phones for a big **** off pizza and awaits the thread of the century....

Do on-one not offer some kind of half-price warranty replacement? must check that out as my inbred died recently...

Inbreds - thought they were pretty much bomb proof?

Yowsers. I'd be trying trying to get some form of warranty replacement on that, myself.....

*orders new armchair, gets beer pumped in from local brewery, orders family meal and crate of buckfast just to be sure*

Pisser!

Yep, give O-O a shout mate.

Hmm, my Inbred was creaking a lot on the last ride. Maybe I should wash it and give it a check over?

Ive contacted on-one and sent them the pics to see what they say.

My main concern is that they dont make an ebb Ti hardtail anymore so the simple smooth lines in either ss or rohloff mode will be lost forever.

Ti frames... 'the last frame you'll ever buy'. Thats what they're usually billed as aren't they?

Blimey, I thought Ti was bomb proof!

titanium. a bike for life. what a load of twaddle.

Ti frames are definately not bomb proof but they do ride well until they break 😀

too much heat in the weld up.
welding is impeccable tho........... 8)

urban-myth a-go-go!

Could have been quite nasty that!

I don't think anyone actually markets Ti frames as bomb proof.

Great strength to weigh ratio, yes. But not necessarily stronger than all.

I think it's a more a perception amongst buyers that because they're spending so much on a frame, it's gonna last forever or at least outlive an equivalent quality steel or alu frame.

I'm gutted for you. Steel is real. And it lasts a darn sight longer. Titanium cracks. In the end.

Steel is real. And it lasts a darn sight longer.

And aluminium is imaginary?

All bikes break, some slightly more often than others.

I was under the impression the people who made the first Tinbreds were the same people who made GT Titanium Xizang frames. Probably wrong, guess Brant will put me right. Shame though always wanted one but couldn't afford one at the time.

[i]'the last frame you'll ever buy'. Thats what they're usually billed as aren't they? [/i]

Because you'll never afford another bike again.

The welding on that is similar to my Merlin Rocklobster Ti frame. Big fat but very neat fish scales. The Lynskey and merlin frames have much smoother more subtle welds. Both look nice though.
Hope you get sorted on a warranty.

Meh, I am just glad it didn't completely fail out on the trail...new front teeth time... 😯

Well, perhaps it's time to modify your riding style or loose some weight...

Or both.

sad sad news but now what to replace with hummmmmmmmmm

A ti whyte 19 😛 😛

or

wait for the 456 Ti slotdrop 😛

30! too young for such nicheness. only men of a certain age should own such a frame. therefore, frame for life. jokes apart, gutted for you.

Yeah Im pretty glad it didnt go on the trail, I dont think it had too much left in it before it would have.

The Ti whyte 19 is top of the list as it will work neatly with the rohloff but its quite a price to pay.

I think it's a more a perception amongst buyers that because they're spending so much on a frame, it's gonna last forever or at least outlive an equivalent quality steel or alu frame.

Nope, thats what the magazines have been telling me since I bought my first MBUK about 15 years ago.

mike-at-dialledbikes - Member
I don't think anyone actually markets Ti frames as bomb proof.

Great strength to weigh ratio, yes. But not necessarily stronger than all.

I think it's a more a perception amongst buyers that because they're spending so much on a frame, it's gonna last forever or at least outlive an equivalent quality steel or alu frame.

a quote from stevo, current on one frame designer (i think?), on the on one site about upcoming ti frame:

the Whippet comes with swapouts to accomodate SS & gear & Hubs & belt drive… The pics for the SS horizontal slot are on the blog below this one…
I really AM looking at ways to remove the monster brace and building a SUPER light Ti XC bike for LIFE!!!
Comment by Stevo — July 31, 2009 @ 2:10 pm

Well if it's going to be able to run a belt drive then I see the Whyte slipping down my wish list. I know everyone will say it won't work properly in muddy and gritty conditions but I still want to try it. Going to a belt will help offset a little bit of the weight of the Rohloff as well!

Just heard from On-one they are on the ball and looking into this.

If only they made a Ti 456 ebb to replace it with......

So that's how they put the "ZING" in Ti

Hi Bro-Bra,
I've got a tinbred frame in mint condition.
Mail me if you want more info.

Mole, you got mail 🙂

Mole medium ebb?

what size is it? Location?

Bro-bra sure is.
nbt i'll check my mail,be in touch later on tomorrow.

Ti can be for life.... but not as the bike trade know it!

cost you though.... ****in loads!

My Ti frame is 18 years old, lent it out three times three different riders, the longest was for 3 years... the last was a year... 16 stone and 60 to 100 plus miles a week off roader.

They need to treat the surface to stop where most the cracks start....(speak to Rolls Royce)
Using a different alloy will mean they can heat treat it... resolving the too much heat at the weld issue, unifying the frame. This can also be helped with single pass welds!

There is more... but basically.. if you want bomb proof for life... double the price of the Whyte..and a bit more 😆

Um... Did someone just say

[b]saladdodger[/b] - Member

...wait for the 456 Ti slotdrop

Are we ever going to see such a thing or are we back in urban myth territory again? Would be very nice if it was the case.

Very sorry and sad to see the demise of your frame though, Bro-bra. Hope some good comes out of it, and at least you've got the same number of teeth as you started the ride with!

hmm,looks just like the failure on mine,that's the problem with cheap ti it doesn't last

Zone, have you got any pics of this amazing 18 year old Ti frame you keep referring to?

Zone, surface treatment won't solve contaminated welds that cause most of these cracks, surely? Moots and a few others who know ti very well use double pass welds (structural and cosmetic) and i'm not convinced that overheating is the issue here, more likely a contamination or ride stress issue.

Producing a ti alloy just for bike use isn't going to happen, this is a small industry compared to the main users of ti! if only it were the other way round and bike sales were worth more than the military.. )

Interested in the heat-treatable alloy you suggest tho, care to tell more? Is your 18 y/o frame a CP or alloyed?

cheers

andylaightscat - Member

hmm,looks just like the failure on mine,that's the problem with cheap ti it doesn't last

Why? same material and same builders as dearer brands. I've seen merlins snap.

I didnt buy a Ti hardtail because I thought it could never break. It had to be mine because I must in all things have only the very best.

My Tinbred may well last forever but I will never know as the chav scum w4nkers who knicked it have not been caught yet...

Shame you EBB broke, it can happen to any bike..