[Closed] Reliable fade-free brakes for fat riders - suggestions

Would be cheaper and probably make you a better rider learning not to drag your brakes 🙂 I was a brake dragger but slowly learning not to.

Hope M4s seem drag-able tho.
Try upping the disc size?

Step one: Lose weight, its cheaper.

Step two: ride better.

🙂

My Hope M4's have been faultless for over 4 years & I ain't no race snake, occasional bleed them when I move them to another bike.

Magura Louise with the Ventidisc rotors.

Get some Avid Elixer's you great big pie-guzzling porker. They stop me, without fading. Mind you, you do considerably more mincing than me. And you've got a great big wobbly planet-head, that i would imagine produces its own gravitational pull, greatly adding to the strain on your brakes

Anyway.... Hang on a minute. Didn't you change brakes about a month ago? Jesus! It never ends, does it?

Saints. Buy a front then start saving.

Avid Codes are favoured by Alpine guides for outstanding performance in this area. Were always great on my DH bikes too. Much better than the hopes I replaced them with.

Tektro Auriga Pro's here. Was 15.5 stone and stopped me fine. Stop me better now I've lost some weight.

Saints. Buy a front then start saving.

Get an extra mount welded on, put a T peice in the rear hydro line & run two calipers on the rear.

Second the Saints - they're worth the money. Had a quick go on my mates Hopes Tech M4's and they didn't come close performance wise.

Cheap - Avid Codes, not as powerful as the saints but pretty good.

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On my Cube the Formula the one's are astoinishing and on my 29er the M4's are equally as good, I drag my brakes and I'm 18st. I've sold my 29er and the M4's (three months old!) are coming off and will be for sale, 203mm rear and 185mm rear, email me on my email on profile if you're interested in paying £250 for them 😉

£250 is err alot! I gulped at paying £200 for my rear Chris King/819 rimmed wheel 😯

I'm no lightweight, and neither is my DH bike - Scott Gambler - but the brakes I run on the DH bike are standard XTs with 203mm rotors. They almost managed the whole Pila descent from 2311m to 400m with no stopping. They gave up the ghost with about 200m (trail, not vertical) to go to the road. A quick dunk in a stream, and they were good to go.

I can't imagine getting brake fade on a UK descent, nor many elsewhere. IME it has to be a loooong downhill with no stopping, so bog standard XT will do me fine.

I love my Marta SL's with 203's however they dramatically fail your price criteria, second hand?

Erm... is there anyone on here still unfamiliar with the thoroughly Yorkshire-esque vortex of haggling and bartering that is the World of Hora?

The above statement was just a mere aperitif. A playful shot across the bows, if you like

*pulls up a chair, cracks open a can, and wonders how this particular one is going to end*

I'll sell you some Magura Louise FR discs 210mm front & 190mm rear, got some IS adapters for em somewhere too. Either increase your discs to freerad dinner plates or reduce your dinner place to CX sized rotors.

Hope Moto V2 vented. Not cheap, but they barely get warm on the longest of Alpine descents.

Saints really are awesome stoppers. But why not just run bigger rotors?

Hayes Stroker Trails, have been powerful reliable and relatively cheap. Available with 203 rotors for 149 of your earth pounds. Bargainous 🙂

Stroker Trails... got a set on the hardtail and they're ok. Think I have crappy pads in mine though so may be that.

I've found the ultimate though Hora is old skool XTs. Flippin brilliant. Or old skool Saints. Same as the XTs. Run them with 203mm/180mm rotors on the Blur with SS Kevlar pads and they're superb.

I'm not fat but I can't bully my Formula Oros into fading even with epic cowardly brake drag down proper mountains. World cup dh, 2000 metre french fall-line descents, deathgripped

You could also try different rotors... Just so happens I have a pair of Magura Venti rotors which are supposedly the coolest running rotors out there, 203mm, which I could do you for £30 for one or £50 the two. Since i can't overheat my brakes with standard rotors, I don't need em obviously.

Mono m4s. Pick up a second hand set. Reliable and powerful. I drag my brakes and have had no issues and I'm a Clyde.

have you thought about clogs and just putting your feet down?
trying to help binners as it seems to be mainly helpful advice here 🙄

Titusrider markhoracekuk AT yahoo.com

Currently 180/180 on Formula K24's. Could go to 203/203 however the cost is eye watering for Formula's adaptors and I'm concerned disco's own aftermarket adaptors/rotors will do the trick withing Formula's tight tolerance/caliper clearance.

Binners, tomorrow late afternoon/445pm in ladybower for a cheekyfest or Sunday silly early if you fancy lovely stuff there???

Shimano adaptors work fine with Oros

Avid BB7s.

Unless cable brakes aren't cool enough.

I have some 200mm formula rotors and a 220mm formula rotor, but only one IS mount for 200r or 220f. Interested?

Avid BB7s.

Unless cable brakes aren't cool enough.

+1

BB7s are surprisingly good. I could lock up the wheels no problem with mine when I was about 18 stone. On par with Juicy 5 power I'd say, just a bit flexier feel.

Stuart, need post to post front, IS (Frame) to post rear if good?

'ave you got the right fork for these brakes Hora?

Fox 36's

Avid BB7s.Unless cable brakes aren't cool enough.

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Re Avid BB7's for a complete brakeset they aren't as cheap as you'd expect are they?

You have 3 choices

Magura Louise
Magura Marta
Magura Gustav

Gustav will blow your mind and your wallet
Marta are light and fade free
Louise are somwhere in between, but still more power than most will ever need

I have 4 sets of Louises

I was sold on Magura when I first tried then 5 years ago. And that set is still running perfectly.

Why do Magura! persist! with the use of exclamation marks? 😐

hope v2

I weigh 100kg and use Hope M4 front and back, specifically, 203mm front, 160mm rear

Phenolic pistons not aluminium ones
Floating discs
Synthetic 5.1 Stendec brake fluid. (This made the greatest difference.

Ridden in the Alps and over here without any problems... and you can get the pads anywhere as they are the same as shimano's

HTH

Re Avid BB7's for a complete brakeset they aren't as cheap as you'd expect are they?

last brand new set i bought were £39 an end,came with adaptors for I.S. and post and rotors, i'd say that were cheap

Rocketdog, how long ago though? They all seem circa 50quid each end now.

Rocketdog, how long ago though? They all seem circa 50quid each end now.

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I've got a set of Mono M4s for sale & a mate is splitting a bike next week - he'll have a set of V2s with floating discs for £200ish.

I saw that last night but how much are the calipers/adaptors ontop?

RD - you need levers and cables on top of that

Got to fit a new BB tonight fella. Got my hammer ready and everyfink. If you fancy a pint later though, I'll probably need one. As will my bike. Think I'll take it for a local, pub-based jaunt to check everything's working. Or not

Riding the Clywdd's Saturday and Sunday 😀

Hora go for some Avid Elixers. They stop me fine. I think Merlin have got some good deals on those at the moment

The problem with Avid is that whilst they are good when they are working, they seem to not work more often than most.....

I've never liked N.Wales. I'm riding Ladybower tonight if your interested?

You've never liked North Wales? Is that because of the 'incident' with the Welsh Male Voice Choir, the Miners lamp and the tub of grease.

I promise I won't let them do that to you again

Any V brake lever and a brake cable you can get from wilkos for the 99p, surely everyone has an old v brake cable lever un their old parts bin?

BB7s have always been reliable for me

Have you seen that wiggle have saints in the sale at the moment, levers are £80 for pair with hoses and oil and calipers are £70 each.

Not exactly cheap but a good saving on retail.

Currently liking my BB7s, as good or near as dammit to any hydraulics I've used, although I'm still experimenting with pads that don't screech in the wet.

Isn't fade down to pad compound though, unless the BB7 calliper transmits significantly more heat away from the pad then its not going to solve anything is it?

Isn't fade down to pad compound though

Caused by: friction fade, mechanical fade, or fluid fade says wikipaedo