For the record, my dropper on the other bike is a Brand X, bought for £90. It has been flawless.
Thought I might trade up to wireless this time so the reassuring words on the Vyron are welcome
My spare/play bike (Clockwork EVO 27.5) is also a Brand X, I just haven't been out on it much. If anything the Brand X is wobblier - although thats not very wobbly at all - than the Vyron by hand at the saddle. The main different between the two is the electronic and rather satisfying "Zoop!" of the Vyron motor.
The Brand X is about to get about 200 miles of a more educated use in Surrey / Thetford this week while my Spark is in the shop for a bearing overhaul. Perfect for me to try the advice given.
The Brand X is about to get about 200 miles of a more educated use in Surrey / Thetford this week
Enjoy!
I've been using Vyrons for 5-6 years and prefer it a LOT over any and every other dropper i've tried, i've tried most... but not AXS.
I'm the least 'rad' rider out there & a proper old giffer locked in an xc bubble, but I couldn't ride a bike without a dropper now.
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wzzzz
Free MemberThe greatest inventions in the history of offroad cycling for all disiplines:
1) SPD pedals
2) Dropper Seatposts
3) Suspension that works
I’d change that a bit....
Disc brakes
Dropper posts
Disc brakes....
I had one of the original Vyrons and it was faultless over nearly 2 years. Ended up selling it because it didn't fit my next frame.
Took minutes to get used to the action and it honestly never bothered me.
I now have a Reverb AXS and that is like a step up! Reacts faster than a cable dropper and has been flawless so far.
Reacts faster than a cable dropper
I don't see how this could happen unless the cable dropper has a problem. You push the lever and the cable moves, there is zero lag.
Either this thread has triggered dropper post fans or(and) I’m on a different wavelength.
Full Suspension bike “normally” has a dropper and in “normal” use is very very good, but 100% (to me) not as good as disc brakes/effective suspension/geometry/gears. Never noticed it causing issues when working flat out.
There are definitely rides where it’s dead weight, even times I’d remove it. You’re mainly looking at rides in the Highlands that use estate/farm tracks.
The hard tail (bike packing type bike) normally has a rigid post. I do have a dropper for it, but rarely is it worth being installed, although there are definitely times where it’s an essential item.
There’s no ****ing way I’d place dropper posts as more important than gears, **** that shit. They’re awesome sure, but gears are a bigger deal.
(I’m going by off road cycling, and not MTBs in their modern form)
Mind you
1) SPD pedals
2) Dropper Seatposts
3) Suspension that works
1) Flats, even on my gravel bike now
2) Yeh, sometimes you that
3) Fully rigid in winter
🤷
When I read that in the review initially I really did think was the writer just being Uber picky..
It’s not, they are shyte. There is a reason why every review is the same.
I mean, if it was the only dropper in existence, I would put up with it, but it is by far and away the worst one I have used.
I don't think people that say a dropper is more needed than gears etc mean it quite so literally.
What is probably more correct is that when your bike is working as you would like in terms of what you want, a dropper is the next best thing to add over anything else.
For example, if I wanted a lightweight rigid singlespeed mtb and built one, it would be as I wanted. Then after riding it a bit, I was being held back and not quite feeling the ride.
Assuming everything else is working as intended and to how I expected, a dropper post could be deemed the 'best' thing I could add to give me the ride I wanted. Sure I could add 'better' brakes, crankset, bars - anything, but the dropper gives the most reward at that point.
This was exactly my situation as it happens and although I wanted to keep the bike light, direct and responsive, a dropper gave me more control and enhanced the rides far more than any other upgrades I could have made. Changing things like the frame or forks to more boing orientated could also be viewed as upgrades but, these fundamentally change what type of bike it is and still leave the rider wanting/needing the feeling and riding that a dropper post allows.
The fact that I ended up going to a front suspension 1x10 on that bike as well is a moot point but the dropper will now always be part of any mtb build I put together.
With a cable you've always got a bit of slack and a certain distance that the lever has to pull the cable.
With the AXS, the button is depressed and the action is instant. It's not major and I doubt anyone would buy one just on that alone, but it's there.
Also depends on the routing of your frame too. I've had frames in the past that have had more "difficult" dropper routing than others, and that gets noticed at the lever.
Marginal gains. AXS does react faster. A button press that has probably 1mm of low force movement at most before the motor operates and the post is on its way down, as opposed to pressing a lever that needs to move significantly further with a much greater force (in comparison) to drop at the same rate.
A bit tongue in cheek tbh as I've not really found the AXS to be too much different to a regular reverb on my other bike. What is a fair bit better is the ability to inch it up or down and from fully down it snaps back up very quickly.
Then the flip side, being without it 10 weeks because the electronics packed up for no reason at all was a bit of a pain... doh.
With a cable you’ve always got a bit of slack and a certain distance that the lever has to pull the cable.
If you set it up and adjust it properly, this isn't a problem.
If you set it up and adjust it properly, this isn’t a problem.
Assuming perfect setup then, how far do you have to push the lever before the post actually drops, and with how much effort? If either of those is more than that of a mouse click, the AXS dropper is better. I’m not claiming it’s vital to have, but it is nicer, and I miss it when I don’t have it.
Never measured it, but I'm guessing mine are set up so they release when the lever is pushed about 5 mm. There is zero lag once the lever is pushed. I have no doubt that wireless droppers are very nice to use, but I also doubt that there would be any measurable difference in the time from hitting the lever or button and the post being fully depressed.
Owning them both (and a couple of cable ones), I'd say there is very much a measurable difference.
The AXS drops faster without a doubt.
However we're picking at straws as I've never been in a position where even the 'slowest' to drop post has been a problem.
Coming back up it is also a fair bit quicker and that does make a difference.
The biggest thing control wise (for me) is being able to flick the button and the saddle moves tiny amounts down.
Again, real world needs are different for all folk but I find this especially useful when going over loose or slightly aggro flat or even uphill sections.
Whether or not I'd miss it if I didn't have the AXS - again questionable, but I do and it's good.
Trying to get the same out of a non electric post is difficult as the system doesn't react as fast.
Really is nit picking and looking for an argument though.
