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I was thinking of replacing my CX bike with something nicer and lighter. It is a Kinesis Pro 6, 105 and ultegra bits hope wheels.
W quick look at what is out there and I'm looking at £2k for what is effectively a slight reduction in weight (dubious based on real world vs. manufacturer values) and hydraulic brakes.
So I was thinking I could get some more life out of it in stead. I can't find 10 speed hydraulic shifters and can't upgrade my hubs as far as I know having looked at it before.
So in terms of cable brakes, whats out there that is good. Currently got BB7s as when I built this thing up every body was telling me you don't need disc brakes in CX and there wasn't much choice.
TRP Spyres
+1 for Trp sayers, once set up right they are great. However..... What's wrong with the Bb7s you've already got - can't see any major gains 'upgrading' to something else. Marginal weight gains maybe.
What's wrong with the Bb7s you've already got
not a lot, they are chunky and a fairly old design now so I was hoping something else had come along to exceed them in terms of weight and use.
I have found my BB7 SLs much nicer than the ordinary BB7s on an earlier bike. Not sure why: they just feel nicer to use.
TRP HY/RD. hydraulic Caliper that works with cable actuation
I'm a big fan of Juin tech / acor cable actuated hydraulics and less of a fan of spyres.
The acor / Juin tech keep all the pad movement bit nicely enclosed in a sealed environment, whereas spryres tend to get grit and mud in them if used in muddy conditions - this affects their ability to spring return and affects the feel quite dramatically. They're also not really that powerful imo.
The TRP Spyres on my Vagabond seem very good. Stop well even in pretty mucky conditions.
+1 juin tech
Happy TRP Spyre owner. But not much basis for comparison
What about the Hope ones that put a small reservoir under the stem and actuate hydraulic calipers from there?
Can't remember the name but recall some very positive feedback.
Edit: They are called Hope v-twin
+1 juin tech
+2 They are fantastic and would actually say they are as good it not better than the shimano hydros I used
+1 TRP HY/RD. Great brakes.
TRP Spyre C's with less flexy discs than TRP sell them with if you plan to hit the anchors at 40+ downhill.
The Hy/Rd's or Juin's probably offer a more consistent lever feel through the pad, but after spending several days riding with a mate with HyRd's on his GT Grade vs the Spyre C's on my Crosslight, there's no actual braking difference, it's all just convenience.
Swopped bb7 to hy/rd on my ageing pro6 like feel better less adjustment better modulation but if thinking about a new frame then dead money
Think you can get tiagra 10 speed hydraulic? Ok down a group set but some 105 was n't that good anyway depends
Forget the Tiagra flat mount will be the issue? No adapters to fit to a post mount frame?
TRP Spyres are pretty good and even better with Uberbike Race Matrix Pads. I changed mine recently and the difference over stock pads was very noticeable. Several people on here had recommended the pads which is why I went for them.
you can run shimano 11 speed cassettes on a 'normal' hub - it's only the sram ones that need the newer hub bodies
#you can run shimano 11 speed cassettes on a 'normal' hub
not road ones - they need to be a road 11 speed freehub (the freehub body is wider on road 11 speed).
You can get Tiagra 10sp hydraulic. A quick google suggests they're called BR-RS405. MY wife has them on her bike and they seem pretty good.
From my own experience, TRP spyres are the best cable-only option I've used in terms of brake feel/modulation and reliable setup. I have TRP Hy/Rds now which are another step-up but still not as good as full hydraulics.
Only two rides in on my gevanelle/trp hydraulics and so far they're awesome - had a few "wiggle" the brake lever moments but only a few.
I think the TRP Hylrex brakes themselves are better than the shimano hydraulics I've tried
Acor/Juan Hybrids, bought off here for £70-odd quid, using Avid HS1 160mm rotors.
Just back from a couple days in Tenerife where these performed really well over 8000m of fast road descending.
Had BB7s before, got fed up with constant adjusting.
Hybrids maybe won't have the ultimate power of full hydros, but they worked for me on some silly long fast descents and, the most important bit for me, are set up with minimal lever pull and being self adjusting they haven't shifted and no rubbing.
Noisy in the wet though, but that was over here on shakedown and before I bedded them in in the mountains. Hopefully they'll be quiet now.
Recently got Gevanelle/ trps too - only a couple of rides in but they seem great.
+3 Juin Tech they are brilliant!
being self adjusting they haven't shifted and no rubbing.
the acor / juin tech's are not self adjusting, you need to turn the adjuster knob to accomodate pad wear.
Whatever, they don't move and start rubbing after every single bleedin ride, that's what I mean.
I'm sure having both pads/pistons moving helps with this.
If you were prepared to spend new bike money I can highly recommend making the jump to 11 speed and 'proper' discs. I have a pro6 too- shimano hydros have genuinely made me more confident descending. The power on tap is just easier and better than with the HyRds I had before. The HyRds were fine, and I'm still running them on the commuter, but these are a different league.
As for the 11 speed freehub issue, I have a 10 speed shimano mtb mech running an 11-36 cassette using a wolftooth tanpan 11sp. Works fine. A friend has the same setup but an 11sp mech and cassette and likes it.
+4 for Juin Tech, used all winter and very impressed with both power and feel.
Another vote for Spyres, but the most important part of a cable disc brake setup is probably the (compressionless) outer - with this, even Lyras work [i]well enough[/i].
+1 for Juin tech
Over at grit.cx...http://grit.cx/news/2016/10/new-disc-brake-from-yokozuna-usa
Are they rebranded Juin Techs?
They do look very similar.
They do look very similar.
They look identical. Seems a few companies re-brand the same brake unit.