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[Closed] Rear lights - which one and there's no such thing as too bright!

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Although I will say there's such a thing as too expensive.... (Hope!)
So, which is best?
Blackburn Mars 3.0
Blackburn Mars 4.0
Smart Lunar R2
Cateye something?

I've looked for a thread and couldn't find one, but please point me there if I'm wrong!


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 10:55 pm
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Niterider Cherry Bomb. Last years 1/2 Watt one was amazing. Having ridden behind this years 1W model...eek!

It has a great lens on it which spreads the light out very effectively.

http://www.thebikechain.co.uk/NiteRider-Cherry-Bomb-1-Watt-2011083012/

I see that there's a 3W tail-light available for the Magicshine batteries too!!!


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 10:58 pm
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Exposure flare.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 10:58 pm
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For the record, I just ordered myself a Smart Lunar R2. Cheapest I found on the interwebs was £13.99 with free delivery from [url= http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Smart-Lunar-R2-Rear-Light_39274.htm ]Tredz[/url]. [url= http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/LISMRTR2/smart_lunar_r2_rear_light ]

Planet-X have it for £12.49[/url], but £2.50 shipping unless you order over £20.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:01 pm
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[url= http://on-one.co.uk/i/q/LISM7LEDR/smart_7_led_rear_light ]Smart 7 LED Rear Light £4!!!!!![/url]


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:02 pm
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bought smart lunar R1 at weekend and my mate made me turn it off tonight out training because it was doing him in.

its miles brighter than the Mars which i run at the same time


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:04 pm
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Some nice choices there. I'm swinging towards the R2 at the moment = proable 2 of them at that price, one for the seatpost, one for the camelbak. I prefere all in one systems unless it's for a head torch which I'll live with.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:10 pm
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If no such thing as too bright, then a pair of helmet-mounted ay ups, mounted facing backwards and with the 'saxon caps' fitted. Brighter than a bright thing, and ideal if you're riding unlit country roads at night.
Expensive solution though, so if not, then the exposure flare (as mentioned up there ^^^) are pretty bright - USB rechargable as well iirc.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:10 pm
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For country roads at night it's more useful to have lots of reflectives.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:11 pm
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I just bought one of those R2 lights from on-one and it is really very bright, decent visibility from the side too.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:13 pm
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I use multiple cheap lights 3 at the moment one steady and two blinking at different rates - the idea being to have a wider area lit so one o the top of the seatpost, one on the bottom and one on the side of teh rack and lots of reflective on the bike as well


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:14 pm
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For country roads at night it's more useful to have lots of reflectives.

I'd go for both, doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.


 
Posted : 21/11/2011 11:15 pm
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Posted : 21/11/2011 11:17 pm
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Always like the smart 1watt lights just ordered another and a rack mount cheap water tight and battery's last and most of all really bright. They are the Ronseal of lights "does exactly what it says on the tin" 😆


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 12:38 am
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Some nice choices there. I'm swinging towards the R2 at the moment = proable 2 of them at that price, one for the seatpost, one for the camelbak. I prefere all in one systems unless it's for a head torch which I'll live with.

Get an R1 and an R2 then, from Planet-X. Prepare to burn out some poor sod's retinas though 😉


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 12:47 am
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I'd go with a fibre flare if you want to be seen rather than just blind drivers coming up behind (which isn't a very smart thing to do :p )


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 9:11 am
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I run a combination of 2 lights on the seat post if I'm venturing on to the road.

A Blackburn Mars 3 and an Electron Pico - for under £7 (at Merlin) the Electron is superb - it's bright enough to be seen a long way off and has an excellent slow flash option which combines well with the Mars 3 on solidly.

You can see the Electron clearly during the day too - at the weekend a ride with a mate ventured on to the road and he said it was like riding behind an F1 car with it's poor visibility light flashing.

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/Lighting/Bike+Lights/Rear+LED+Lights/Electron+Pico+4+LED+Rear+Light_EHP280.htm?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googlebase&utm_term=Rear+LED+Lights


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 10:34 am
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I've got the magicshine light. It's decently bright but the only mode I use is the always on one, the flashing modes are too poor.

It's got seven small led's as well as the main one and the flash mode alternates between them. On top of this the flash rate is very slow, so the main LED only flashes every second or so, plenty long enough for someone to miss it when looking between different directions. The spread from the main LED doesn't seem that great either, so I'm now looking for something that flashes fast and wide to compliment it on the commute bike.

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Posted : 22/11/2011 12:54 pm
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In my experience the Cateye Holy Hand Grenade (see Snakebite's pic) is too wide, can't easily be mounted at 90degrees, and is heavy with 4x AA. Blackburn Mars are good, and have nice mounting bracket. Smart Lunar R2 is my most recent but due to poor switch (oftern takes a while to get it to click) and difficult to open/close design I've not been as impressed as with the Smart Superflash. However, the R2 is bright. If I were buying again, I'd get Superflash on the bike and Fibreflare for bag/jersey/helmet a la Matt Baker on his rickshaw.


 
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[i]Cateye Holy Hand Grenade (see Snakebite's pic) is too wide, can't easily be mounted at 90degrees, and is heavy with 4x AA[/i]

It takes two AA batteries not 4. No it's not easy to mount vertically if thats what you mean but then again that would make the side led's pretty pointless. And I've not found the width an issue.

I use a combo of lights on the back - one Cateye TL-LD1100 (as pictured above) on my seatpost one row flashing and one constant and one on my camelbak one row flashiing and one constant, one fibreflare on my driveside seatstay set to flash, one cheap flashing light under my seatpost, one on my helmet and one Cateye SL110 on the shoulder strap of my camelbak. Yeh I'm lit up like a christmas tree but I am visible.

If you have lights on your offside then drivers generally give you more space.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:03 pm
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RSP Astrum 2 x 1/2 watt so very similar to the Smart R2 but with no reliability or waterproof problems. It's bright as **** with one LED providing flood and the other providing throw.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:08 pm
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I have this one and it's very bright and usb rechargeable.

http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/moon-shield-60-lumen-usb-rechargeable-rear-light-id63872.html#info


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:09 pm
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I run a Holy Hand grenade and an assortment of Smart 1/2 watt and R1s.

No complaints here.
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Posted : 22/11/2011 2:24 pm
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Got some Smart Lunar 1/2 watt lights here. Very impressed and plenty bright enough, even in fog. They are so small, light and cheap that I reckon it's a good option to fit two, so that you dont care if one fails or runs out of batttery (although they last ages).


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:28 pm
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No complaints here.

You probably can't hear them over the lumens 😉


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:29 pm
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2 x Exposure Flare (seatpost mounted) and a Fibre Flare (mounted on the lower half of my rucksack).

Works really well. Always have at least 2 rear lights, if one dies midway through a ride at least you've got a backup.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:31 pm
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Indeed crazy-legs, I see so many people on my commute with one rear light and its not a great idea. If it fails then you wouldn't know, its highly unlikely that two would fail. It's like jumping out a plane without a safety chute 😉


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 2:37 pm
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I use these: http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/LISMRTMINI/smart_mini_led_light_set

Plus some 2 of these:
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.212-3106.aspx

Tempted with an Exposure Flare though.


 
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My Exposure flare has died and Exposure aren't getting back to me about warranty on it.
Its going back to Wiggle, but why bother offering a 2 year warranty and how to return it on your website if you have no interest in conversing?

Its a cracker wee light when it works. But I fear the switch mechanism is a poor design and going to be prone to failure?


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 3:34 pm
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+1 on the RSP astrum. Very bright.

Much cheapness on Amazon at the moment too (cheaper than Cyclesurgery's 50% off offer)


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 3:37 pm
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lights are good, but a bright red light in the dark is basically camouflage. So don't forget the retro-reflectives, and the dorky ankle-straps...

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i'm serious, they're very eye-catching.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 3:46 pm
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[i]You probably can't hear them over the lumens[/i]

You got that right. Noisey flippin bunch those lumens.

You should hear the front lights at [i]full chat[/i]

8)


 
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If I happened to have a spare DX front light kicking about how would I go about converting this to a rear light? Could I ask a helpful maker of great lights to change the white led to a red one for example? Or would red acetate over the lens work?

ie this one

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lights are good, but a bright red light in the dark is basically camouflage. So don't forget the retro-reflectives, and the dorky ankle-straps...

They are the only hi-viz/reflective stuff I use. Got them from [url= http://www.dealextreme.com/p/slap-wrap-reflective-wrist-band-for-the-safety-of-riding-at-night-25498 ]DX[/url] of all places....luckily I have a Giant.


 
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Indeed crazy-legs, I see so many people on my commute with one rear light and its not a great idea

I've got a Cateye LD-600 (I think it is, 5 LED long thin jobby) on my seat stay, and a Flare on my seatpost, seems a good combo (although the Flare cannot be USB charged as suggested up there somewhere). Last night I went to ride home and the LD-600 was flat, probably someone turned it on at work or something. So I turned on my Flare and set off.

20-odd miles later having ridden from the City, as I got to the M25 I realised my Flare wasn't on either! No idea how long it hadn't been on, but I'd not noticed any difference in the cars attitudes, no one (cyclist or driver) had said owt either. I suspect it had only been off for a short time (I'd not quite twisted the besel enough, it wasn't flat or owt), but it was quite worrying that I'd been riding along on some busy roads with intermittent streetlights and no rear light at all, and I'm not the best at this reflective malarky. Eek.

Perhaps my Flash and Maxx-D combo puts out a big enough pool I was still obvious!


 
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If I happened to have a spare DX front light kicking about how would I go about converting this to a rear light? Could I ask a helpful maker of great lights to change the white led to a red one for example? Or would red acetate over the lens work?

What diameter is the lens on it? DX sell replacement colour lenses.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/30mm-replacement-color-glass-lens-for-flashlights-2-pack-25228

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/26-8mm-replacement-glass-lens-for-flashlights-10-pack-25229

lights are good, but a bright red light in the dark is basically camouflage. So don't forget the retro-reflectives, and the dorky ankle-straps...

I wear a hi-vis waistcoat thing from work, it's not cool or trendy but it's dark anyway so no one can see my face 😉


 
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Ah thanks for that, not sure of the diameter. I know car lights work on the white bulb/red lens principle just wonder if it would work for this too.


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 4:13 pm
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Dinette 140L rear, crazy bright with the best flash mode of any light.
End of story, thread closed 🙂


 
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[i]If I happened to have a spare DX front light kicking about how would I go about converting this to a rear light?[/i]

I expect it would be possible to just swap the LED out for a red one.

No harm in fiddling with lens colours, but after a while, they will fade.

Further more, splice up the cable on the battery and you could run front and rear from one battery........


 
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[i]luckily I have a Giant[/i]

Giant what ?.


 
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[i]I expect it would be possible to just swap the LED out for a red one.[/i]

I have no idea how to do that so I'll try the lens option. I would just stick the battery pack in a waterproof saddle pack.

Yeh I could buy a cable and run a front one too but then I'd need to buy yet another light and the idea of this would be to use one up I bought out of curiosity and don't really have a use for.


 
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This is plenty bright enough for me [url= http://www.bikelights.com/vis180.html ]L & M Vis 180[/url]


 
Posted : 22/11/2011 6:40 pm
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Based on the recommendations on this thread I decided to buy a RSP Astrum to replace the Mars 3. First indications are good - seems well sealed, a positive switch and crikey it's bright.

Decided to set it to pulse and see what it looks like. My eyes are still seeing red flashes now!! I'm actually worried it will totally blind drivers.


 
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Nothing says cyclist better than a pair of Respro ankle bands.

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For commuting, I use a rack mounted B&M Toplight plus a small flashing back-up


 
Posted : 25/11/2011 3:36 pm
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Really pleased with the Lunar R2.

If you want to give your mates scarred retinas how about a Lupine and a red quality street wrapper.


 
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I happened to have a spare DX front light kicking about how would I go about converting this to a rear light?

I expect it would be possible to just swap the LED out for a red one.

No harm in fiddling with lens colours, but after a while, they will fade.


Not advocating this a solution but...
I was out the other day, getting a bit dark and misty so I went to turn on my rear light and it wouldn't for whatever reason. I put my back-up front light on the back (Topeak WhiteLite) and rode home. I had to comute in the dark the following dark and thinking that a white lught was better than no light I left it on, for a few days until i got a new red one.
I noticed that cars gave me a lot more space when I had a white light at the back. I think it is plenty bright enough to be seen but confuses drivers enough to make them give me a wide brth.


 
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I will accept that they are deeply unfashionable but one of these
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Was given to me by my dad when I moaned about traffic skimming past me uncomfortably close. "yea right, I am putting that dork fest on my bike!" Thought I. Tried it and blow me if it didn't actually seem to make a difference!
YMMV and all that but as an extra bit if you can bring yourself to try it, give it a go.
It's late and I am lazy so I think I might copy/paste this to that crappy commute thread as well...


 
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Any Smart superflash/lunar. 1 or 0.5 watt are ace. About £15.


 
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After my back light ran out of battery when I was 30 miles from home, I read this thread and minced around on various websites to see what was on offer. Yesterday I received an exposure flare and battery charger (with 2 batteries) from wiggle.

I have to say, it's really damn bright - don't know why I didn't invest in one of these before, very impressed. It cost all in £48 with the charger, when wiggle had their 10% off offer.

It replaces a Blackburn Mars 4.0 - not a bad light in itself either.


 
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I think I went a little OTT, after a near miss the other week on the road with a Exposure Flare I wound up with a Exposure Red Eye on the helmet and a Hope District, with the Flare as backup.


 
Posted : 26/11/2011 5:04 pm