I liked the look of these from what was on show at eurobike. does any one know if there's any more information floating about, or when they'll be available?
Order in and waiting for them to land. Which won't be for about three months.
We're doing a titanium version with sliders too!
...have you got a list of frame weights anywhere Brant?
Which won't be for about three months.
Bike company in 2011 products not available until 2011 shock.
I really wish you hadn't said that about a ti version!
will that feature the headtube box?
Will the standard model come in the same colour as the eurobike one? it looked great.
I think the 16in one was 5.1lb which sounds about right as it's effectively a Blue Pig tubeset, with a 10% lighter downtube and lighter rear dropouts.
will that feature the headtube box?
Will the standard model come in the same colour as the eurobike one? it looked great.
No plans for the head tube box on the Ti, as it's not really needed there. It would just be extra foof, more heat, and Lynskey get funny about things like that.
Piglet will come in "illegal ivory" (as shown) and golden delicious green.
That piglet looks yum. 🙂
Is there any stiffness/performance benefit to the three finger chainstay? I remember it being a great solution to chainsuck/clearance but I wondered why its there instead of a 'normal chainstay on the QED singlespeed...
seems little point in it being there instead of a 'normal chainstay on the QED singlespeed...
I was sat on the toilet the other day when I thought the same thing!
Currently revising the QED to have a "not 3 finger" chainstay 🙂
Which will save weight AND money 🙂
Have to say the Piglet is the one I'd be considering.
Is it designed to take a bit more than 120 travel? Have some Talas forks and whilst they'd be run at 120 most of the time, it would be nice to use 140 on the downs.
Is about three months the ETA for the revised pig and pig x too?
I'm thinking an 'illegal ivory' piglet with 120mm a bolt through fork is my next 'must have' bike.
hmmm looks nice, with rack mounts it could have been the next Inbred
All 2011 Ragleys are 3 months away.
Cheers Brant.
and available to preorder from 18 Bikes, er NOW!! (Heck, might even get them all sorted to the webshop this week...)
Si
This might help Si:-
203968 2011 Bagger 288 14" - Dad's Denim
203969 2011 Bagger 288 14" - Old Mmmbop Lime
200750 2011 Bagger 288 16" - Dad's Denim
200760 2011 Bagger 288 16" - Old Mmmbop Lime
200751 2011 Bagger 288 17" - Dad's Denim
200761 2011 Bagger 288 17" - Old Mmmbop Lime
200752 2011 Bagger 288 18" - Dad's Denim
200762 2011 Bagger 288 18" - Old Mmmbop Lime
200758 2011 Bagger 288 20" - Dad's Denim
200763 2011 Bagger 288 20" - Old Mmmbop Lime
203970 2011 Blue Pig 14" - Not Blue Pig Blue
203971 2011 Blue Pig 14" - Skwosh
200774 2011 Blue Pig 16" - Not Blue Pig Blue
200770 2011 Blue Pig 16" - Skwosh
200775 2011 Blue Pig 17" - Not Blue Pig Blue
200771 2011 Blue Pig 17" - Skwosh
200776 2011 Blue Pig 18" - Not Blue Pig Blue
200772 2011 Blue Pig 18" - Skwosh
200777 2011 Blue Pig 20" - Not Blue Pig Blue
200773 2011 Blue Pig 20" - Skwosh
203981 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 14" - Old Mmmbop blue
203980 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 14" - Taiwan Racing Green
203982 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 16 - Taiwan Racing Green
203983 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 16" - Old Mmmbop blue
203984 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 17 - Taiwan Racing Green
203985 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 17" - Old Mmmbop blue
203986 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 18 - Taiwan Racing Green
203987 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 18" - Old Mmmbop blue
203988 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 20 - Taiwan Racing Green
203989 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 20" - Old Mmmbop blue
203973 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 14" - Old Mmmbop Blue
203972 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 14" - Taiwan Racing Green
200734 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 16 - Taiwan Racing Green
200738 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 16" - Old Mmmbop Blue
200735 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 17 - Taiwan Racing Green
200739 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 17" - Old Mmmbop Blue
200736 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 18 - Taiwan Racing Green
200740 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 18" - Old Mmmbop Blue
200737 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 20 - Taiwan Racing Green
200741 2011 Blue Pig X Swopout 20" - Old Mmmbop Blue
203974 2011 Piglet 14" - Golden Delicious Green
203975 2011 Piglet 14" - Illegal Ivory
200764 2011 Piglet 16" - Golden Delicious Green
200767 2011 Piglet 16" - Illegal Ivory
207641 2011 Piglet 17" - Golden Delicious Green
207642 2011 Piglet 17" - Illegal Ivory
200765 2011 Piglet 18" - Golden Delicious Green
200768 2011 Piglet 18" - Illegal Ivory
200766 2011 Piglet 20" - Golden Delicious Green
200769 2011 Piglet 20" - Illegal Ivory
203976 2011 QED 14" - Familar White
203977 2011 QED 14" - GTV Red
200778 2011 QED 16" - Familar White
200781 2011 QED 16" - GTV Red
207643 2011 QED 17" - Familar White
207644 2011 QED 17" - GTV Red
200779 2011 QED 18" - Familar White
200782 2011 QED 18" - GTV Red
200780 2011 QED 20" - Familar White
200783 2011 QED 20" - GTV Red
203979 2011 Troof 14" - Another Red
203978 2011 Troof 14" - Chip Shop Curry
200746 2011 Troof 16" - Another Red
200742 2011 Troof 16" - Chip Shop Curry
200747 2011 Troof 17" - Another Red
200743 2011 Troof 17" - Chip Shop Curry
200748 2011 Troof 18" - Another Red
200744 2011 Troof 18" - Chip Shop Curry
200749 2011 Troof 20" - Another Red
200745 2011 Troof 20" - Chip Shop Curry
Loving the looks of that Troof. Would it ride crap with 140mm forks though I wonder?
thankyou Brant, my 2010 Skwosh 'Pig is already a classic*.
(*outdated - but in a good way)
it's ace, that is all.
Piglet tempting... not sure my Rebas would work on it though :/
im intrigued as to where the frame called 'Troof' came from ? i thort it mite have been called 'Hoof' or 'pigs'Trotter'....lol hey 'pigs trotter' now theres another name to add to your list Brant ! 
Another name option: Brawn. a lovely dish made with a pig's head amongst other piggy bits and bobs, including the trotters of course. Yum.
Oh Brawn... that's really good. Hora named the frame Blue Pig, the, er, Blue Pig you know... but don't tell him cos he doesn't know. It came up in a thread beginning of 2009 I think, as a good name for a bike 🙂
brant have you got any pics of a troof built up?
brant have you got any pics of a troof built up?
not yet,
damn 🙁 what sort of red is another red?
Oh just as I'd thought I had my next frame sorted you mention a Ti version...
Wasnt the other troof colour blue, or have you been changing again! Oh ive got your 'im scared of my wife' tee here too, i rescued it from the shed for you at EB 😉
Hey D. Yeah, we changed again. Too many blues, and I didn't like that other one. Colin's putting it on the system, Frank's got to OK it all yet though. Can we talk like this here? 🙂
Cool for the shirt. You haven't seen my digital camera have you?
Ok so where/when can I see some more info on the Ti version?
Ok so where/when can I see some more info on the Ti version?
Lynskey are making the first sample as we speak. Drawings proofed printed and passed last week, started cutting metal on Monday.
Essentially, it's the same tubeset and dropouts as the TD:1 with a straight seat tube, and a 44mm head tube to allow it to run tapered pimp forks.
D?! Its L!
There was a camera floating about, i assume Andy or Ed picked it up, might be worth a quick email.
The other blue was a bit 'limp' Red is fine with me! Erm probably not, Frank will probably be watching 😀
Any info on the geometry for the piglet?
Ti could be a winner:)
im still intrigued about the 'Troof' name for these ragley bikes.... 😉
Wow Brant, you've been busy! [i]Very[/i] exciting line up. Love it. Trouble is, your 1st generation ScandAL's so good I can't find an excuse to change it!
203968 2011 Bagger 288 14" - Dad's Denim
203970 2011 Blue Pig 14" - Not Blue Pig Blue
203971 2011 Blue Pig 14" - Skwosh
203981 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 14" - Old Mmmbop blue
203980 2011 Blue Pig X Standard 14" - Taiwan Racing Green
203974 2011 Piglet 14" - Golden Delicious Green
203975 2011 Piglet 14" - Illegal Ivory
203976 2011 QED 14" - Familar White
203977 2011 QED 14" - GTV Red
203979 2011 Troof 14" - Another Red
203978 2011 Troof 14" - Chip Shop Curry
Yess!!
[i]remembers two sons are starting uni this weekend[/i] . . . oh 😕
Guess I could always ebay anything they leave behind.
Why's there a 17"? It's unusual to see a range with sizing that close together
Why's there a 17"- isn't that a bit too much overlap?
It evens up the distribution over the 16in and 18in sizes, and suits those people who are torn between the 16in and 18in sizes 🙂
I know cos you told me that...in 2009 brant. Your memory is worse than mine 😆
Not that I'm in the market for a new bike this year, but hats off to you for offering 16/17/18" options. It always amazes me how many (big) manufacturers expect you to compromise on frame size. Yes, I know you can't offer a size for [i]everybody[/i], but one inch increments, particularly at this juncture, just seems very sensible.
its also sensible with frames coming in at 14 inch too ! (thats for tiny people) 😉
oh and helooooooooo 'Brant' : im still intrigued 'bout the name 'Troof', c,mon- spill the beans where did you pick that name out of? 😉
Brant, have you got more sizing info on the 14" frames (effective top tube mainly) - especially the Blue Pig & Piglet?
Any news on the ElectroPig yet Brant?
Brant, I take it the Ti piglet is going to retail at a similar price to the Ti pig?
Cheers,
Rusty
With this many frames and sizes available global domination beckons... 😀
14" frames (effective top tube mainly) - especially the Blue Pig & Piglet?
572mm (22.5in) on the Blue Pig
588mm (23.1in) on the Piglet
Designed to enforce short stems 🙂
Any news on the ElectroPig yet Brant?
🙄
Brant, I take it the Ti piglet is going to retail at a similar price to the Ti pig?
Aye - kind of TD:1ish pricing.
Designed to enforce short stems......
And prevent the use of the bikes by women!
23inch top tube on a 14inch frame - your having a laugh.
I agree Rik. They'd fit me well, but are immediately off my list for Kate. I'll talk to Kate about Adele's frame.
Sorry I might of missed it but I guess the Ti pig and Mmmbop will also come in the 17" size?
Ti Pig will.
Mmmbop is discontinued.
Lets try this again- any idea of a frame weight for the Blue Pig X as yet? Watching this one with interest...
oh and helooooooooo 'Brant' : im still intrigued 'bout the name 'Troof', c,mon- spill the beans where did you pick that name out of?
I reckon it's the Grange Hill way of saying 'truth' ❓
any idea of a frame weight for the Blue Pig X as yet?
Saves about .3lb over the regular FatHeadTubing. So around 5.3lb with the same dropouts.
The Swopouts do add some weight, so that's why we're doing a "regular dropout" version.
Brant, will the Ti Piglet be available with vertical dropouts, not sliders?
Brant, will the Ti Piglet be available with vertical dropouts, not sliders?
It's a thought. Saves about 1/3rd of a pound too. We'll see what Lynskey say about splitting production.
DJ / 4X version next please.
Cool, cheers brant.
Can we have more info about the geom...? Is it somethign stupid like the on-one? Or are they more mainstream/can like?
IE if I ride a 16" will I need a 16"?
cheers
DJ / 4X version next please.
Seen the Nukeproof SNAP?
Is it somethign stupid like the on-one?
What particular aspect of the on-one do you find stupid? We've already ascertained the 14in frame has a 23.1in top tube - I wonder if that's what you mean by [i]stupid[/i]?
Whoops - someone made a boo boo.
Don't you guys know you NEVER critise a design.
it's like calling your mates wife ugly, or his kids thick. Everyone knows it - you don't HAVE to say it out loud. You'll just piss them off!
& fwiw what IS stupid about the design?
the job of the bike frame is to keep the wheels,saddle and stem apart. as long as it does that, I'm happy.
We've already ascertained the 14in frame has a 23.1in top tube - I wonder if that's what you mean by stupid?
Will still be too big for Ed 😆
[url= http://www.shedfire.com/2010/09/24/ti-ragley-piglet-first-sample-in-transit-now/ ]Ti Piglet[/url]
Glad you've postponed an "alu" piglet version. Would be unprofitably mainstream.
The Ti piglet looks ACE! I really wish it's not that good to make me have second thoughts about my ti Pig! Could you add some vertical curve to the seatstays? While it might not be more resilient, it would look like it and thus appeal to more confort-seekers (who i suppose make up the 120-130mm travel Ti HT buyer party).
I also think that an OX piglet would make even better sense and you might get away with building the standard tubing one at all!!!!!
Any changes to the Ti Pig by the way (apart from the dropouts)? Can i sent my frame back 2b "Ragley" engraved????Can i?
The Ti frame looks fantastic. Though maybe I'm being awkward but given the option I'd prefer a non slider vertical drop out version aswell.
That piglet does look great! Any chance of a 26" xc race bike, or do I need to take the leap to 29 and the TD:1?
That looks nice
Seen the Nukeproof SNAP?
i have now. nice!
new ragley stuff listed on CRC now. carbon wisers due about now I think.
14" frames (effective top tube mainly) - especially the Blue Pig & Piglet?
572mm (22.5in) on the Blue Pig
588mm (23.1in) on the Piglet
Interesting, I wasn't expecting this as the on-one 456 jumps from 21.5" ett for the 14" to 23" for the 16".
I'm 5'7" but prefer a slightly smaller bike, hopefully the 14" blue pig will be perfect because I feel the current 16" blue pig is probably a bit big for me.
we're in the dark here, come on, give us some new info. How's the piglet Ti prototype like? Sizing? I suppose it would be best to get one size up against the BPig.
How do you expect people to place 2011 pre-orders??? :-p
Is it just me who wants to shake their fist disagreeably at whoever decided to discontinue the mmmbop?
You should have bought one while they were half price then 😛
Sorry for the thread bump but is there any more news on the Ti Piglet?
my 16" golden delicious piglet frame will be arriving today 🙂
pics later
I exchanged emails with Brant yesterday and the Ti Piglet is being shipped from Lynskey mid June and will be in the UK at the beggining of July - Can't wait!!! 😀
my 16" golden delicious piglet frame will be arriving todaypics later
Once you have it built, it would be good to have some ride feedback?
Definitely - will do.
I'm going to run it singlespeed and build it with:
120mm Sid XX forks(15mm bolt though)
Hope Pro3's with stans
Answer Pro Taper 720 bars
70mm Answer AM stem
Thomson Elite inline post
XTR chainset (just 32 ring)
Gobi XM saddle
Hope Race X2 breaks
Chris King headset
piglet will have his headset fitted tomorrow, then built up ready for my burfdy on thursday.
nothing flash, all donor parts from the retiring rock lobster
lx and slx drivetrain, xt 160/180 brakes, revelation 426s at 130mm, ragley seatpost, sdg saddle, easton 75mm stem and 710mm bars, v12s, some wheels of some kind and kenda nevegals
liking it so far tho, frame detailing is good and impressed by the bolt on hose guides, very neat idea. gonna be tricky deciding where to put all the stickers 🙂
oh and if you were wondering how green golden delicious green is? very. kermit the frog green. really nice
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alcohol permitting there will be a full report next thursday pm
and more pics as i build it up if i remember