Just received my carbon Wisers (new) and the top end of the Kevlar has black (almost like boot polish) discolouring along the top- it looks like carbon dust settled ontop of the Kevlar but under the lacquer.
Then on the top of the riser bar- strained looking Kevlar weave/dodgy on one side.
Is this normal?
Surely when the warehouse person picked them up (they come in a clear wrapper not a box) they'd have seen this?
you big soft moaning geyt.........does it matter? 😀
I'll get some pics. Why did they even think that would be acceptable?
pics would be ace, then i can give my expert opinion on carbon finery....... 😀
More importantly, how's the compression damping on them?
[b]Hora in Not Being Fully Satisfied Shocka[/b]
Surely when the warehouse person picked them up (they come in a clear wrapper not a box) they'd have seen this?
Clearly, as well as never having run a business, you've never worked for minimum wage in a warehouse either.
😆 I wouldn't trust them. Those bars are definite seconds.
Are you talking about the sick-coloured bars? I had a set of those and the kevlar wrap did have some greyish discolouration where it overlapped. Nothing to worry about (unless you're a tart).
hora - Member
I'll get some pics. Why did they even think that would be acceptable?
Brant was order picking, and he saw they were for you, and thought that a 'over the cockpit by snapping carbon fatality' would be the answer to one of his dreams.
[i]Brant was order picking[/i]
I think dave@planet-x should be told he's been moonlighting at CRC!
bit of a Homer simpson moment there, eh?...........doh 😳
If you were buying them from a proper shop you could have inspected them yourself before purchase.....
Are you talking about the sick-coloured bars? I had a set of those and the kevlar wrap did have some greyish discolouration where it overlapped. Nothing to worry about (unless you're a tart).
No. I could live with that.
Lets cut to the chase shall we - how much do you want for them?
I was first in the queue! I even said they'd never get fitted before he sold them 😉
Hora, and carbon bars and fat blokes are a bad mix....... 😉
Pics!
Didn't you order another set of bars too? What've you done with those gimp-boy?
Ton
bit of a Homer simpson moment there, eh?...........doh
Instantly forgiven there Ton, as it was most funny.
Pics needed!
Been on my CRC wishlist for ages but now the 720mm-25mm-black are back in stock I was going to order some
This is the size that I ordered- Will do nuke at lunchtime.
Whats that?
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My bars is broke!
Not a great pic as the camera flash 'reacted' with the lacquer thus lightening the 'bruise'. BTW you can't 'rub' the darkness off in anyway- its under the lacquer so I'm guessing its either carbon powder or the carbon underneath the Kevlar wasn't set right and bled? through the Kevlar open weave?
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it's covered in black cracks - send it to me before you injure yourself riding it!
the shadows are just the carbon bar showing through the Kevlar wrap, it'll be fine...
Have you bought them to match your pants? Is you, like... all co-ordinated, 'n shit?
Actually I'd agree that looks crap, looks like residual ink form the logo printing.
From an aesthetic point of view I'd send them back especially as they are £65.
😆 @ binners
wwaswas if thats the case the bars should have been rejected and sent back to the factory or sold as visual seconds.
Kingtut - its like the same stuff you get when you spill a toner cartridge so I'm inclined to say carbon powder/residual from manufacturing process. i.e. the guy on the shopfloor didnt wipe down the bars before applying lacquer.
Or sold to the [s]next half-wit[/s] you?
Is he wearing fishnets?
are those Carhart cargo pants?
WTF are you wearing? Is it fancy dress at work today? Have you come as a bee hive?
Some wierd ultra baggy cargo pants that my missus was developing at work.
Its not just the discolouring - its the strained/wierd effect at the top of the riser bend (matting of the gloss lacquer) as well. **** all chance you'd catch me trusting some QC issue carbon bars regardless if it was just cosmetic.
Wasn't there other issues with Ragleys? (frame finishing etc etc)?
What was she developing them for? A moon landing?
Was your mum not around to get you dressed this morning?
The marks do look toss, I'd send them back.
Out of interest - and you can take your time and think about the answer - out of all the literally thousands of bike parts that have passed though your grubby, fetid little palms, are there any at all... ANY... that you've took delivery of and thought... "Yip! They're great! Just what I was after"?
They are normally unpacked, checked for all the bits and fitted asap.
However I've bought secondhand things, gotten them and thought WHHOAA wtf.
This isn't what I expected to say, ever when I opened a new purchase.
FFS hora do you ever get anything and not moan - you are such a girl!
They look shit, send them back.
FWIW I agree that they look a naff, and I probably wouldn't fit them
Agree. I've asked for them to be collected. I'm not going down to the Post office for something that is blatantly wrong (they came clear-packed not boxed). So it wouldn't be reasonable to send something out in that condition then expect a customer to go further out of their way would it?
Off to the Post Office Hora?
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Shes got no boobs..
When are you free for a drink Binners?
Yeah, I'd send back.
Have you weighed them btw? Wondered if they are indeed sub 200g.
True! I've got bigger norks!
Will mail you now mate
Pics of your Norks? 8)
Covered in whipped cream, chocolate, or both?
can you put glacé cherries on your nips too? ta
If I can find some, yes. Any other requests? Its getting a bit messy, to be honest
binners - Member
Have you bought them to match your pants? Is you, like... all co-ordinated, 'n shit?
close, he's an uncoordinated shit.
At least Im not a Factory team Aldi rider 😆
Lidl actually. And its not sponsorship, it was a 'prize'
[i]Lidl actually[/i]
I don't know why but I heard that said with a slightly indignant voice 🙂
It looks like Lidl made those bars.
you heard correctly wwaswas. need to rep the brand n' all!
mine were like that too. more concerned by the immense amount of flex from them and cracking at the start of the rise...
Hora, you will deffo die now if you use em.......^^
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cracking at the start of the rise...
On these (new) ones it looks like its pre-crazed already (already been bloody used) at the top of the rise.
Thing is, if yours are like that - why take the risk? You wash out on a bike- fine but your bar suddenly snaps in half on a descent you have a high chance of your face/arm suddenly dropping down over that area towards the forks at speed haven't you?!
they're not on the bike anymore, just waiting to send back to crc but i'm very very lazy
Could I be the first to mention a revolutionary new material. Its called aluminium. You may want to consider it. If you look hard on CRC you may be able to find some cutting edge bars made of this strong, light and versatile material.
Just a thought
binners - Member
Could I be the first to mention a revolutionary new material. Its called aluminium.
BURN HIM!!!
So have you bought those Funn bars or what? Yes or no answer please
Hora still have the syncros bulk carbon 711mm bars for sale when you get a refund!!!!!!!!!!!
Really glad I went for Haven carbons now. With 10% voucher and the credit card fraud voucher I got them pretty cheap 🙂
Fudge if new yes please. Binners are you sure? Structurally sound but battered. Only been on the bike 5months
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Binners are you sure? Structurally sound but battered
Am I sure about what? And I don't want to know about your back doors thanks 🙄
yup i just looked looked on crc and the picture on crc is better than your Bars.... send them back,, something not right there ! they are in the sale too..... bugger me looks like they sold you imperfects.
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still relatively cheap tho for carbon..... i wouldnt accept the state they are in....but then thats me...when your paying = you want it perfect 😉
I thought the entire point of that version of the bars is that they look horrible?
TBH I don't think you should be buying carbon bars- reason being, you asked me about my Monkeylite DHs "have they ever been crashed". Well, if you look at a bar like that and think "Oh it's carbon, what if it's been crashed on, it might snap" then you will never be happy with the material. Almost every other carbon bar ever made is weaker, and sooner or later you'll be in a crash, will you stop trusting those too?
Quality carbon bars are strong and reliable, and you don't need to be precious about them or paranoid. But if you are, then it's not the material for you.
Its not just the dark stuff- there's wierd crazing in the kevlar as though they've actually been dragged against something before the lacquer coat. Then there are the square single sheets of carbon underneath (not like the wrap pattern you normally see on cheapo c456's- this is a single dark sheet over lighter material.
Shoddy.
i'll sell you a [b]brand [/b]new pair of easton haven CNT carbons at 711mm....?
£110 posted....?
Lecht. 99 at merlincycles
i'll still sell you mine for £110 though....
Only if it includes a pic of you and elfin naked en "soixante-neuf" (signed bien sur)
that's killed the thread.
they look exactly the same as the pic on the hotlines website.. I was dithering between a raw carbon/kevlar Carnegie and an ally one last year.. my pocket dictated that I went for the ally version the end..
after reading this thread I wish I'd shelled out the extra few quid for the carbon badboys.. they look flippin' swish..