I never meant to cause you any sorrow
I never meant to cause you any pain
I only wanted to one time to see you laughing
I only wanted to see you
Laughing in the purple rain 8)
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My new (to me) Starling Murmur... Now to get the wee beast dialled in and get some miles on it! 😀
The way you've routed that back brake is upsetting me. It's going to rub that lovely paint job. The bike is a lovely thing.
Interesting change from all things carbon and Evil to pretty much the other end of the spectrum.
Now THAT'S the kind of full suspension mtb I could get along with!
Ooh, that's pretty.
The way you've routed that back brake is upsetting me.
The angle the hose is coming out of the caliper? Necessitated sadly by the position of the hose guides. I agree it's not ideal, but I'd have needed a 6" longer hose (and it would have lassoo-ed passing wildlife!) to have had it exiting the caliper at a more natural angle sadly.
Interesting change from all things carbon and Evil to pretty much the other end of the spectrum.
A change is as good as a rest as they say. Spent the last 2 1/2 years riding Evils, still love them to pieces, fancied a change that was a bit more home grown so to speak.
Ooh la la!
*whimpers and bites bottom lip*
Hell yes.
(And brush the leaves up, please)
Like school diner curries....
ahem...that is spanking!
Love the Chrome stickers on the purple looks very classy.
Nice.
That is lovely. I thought the blue one was nicer but can't decide now.
I think HG is referring to the routing at the headtube. Cables should go around the headtube people!
mboy - MemberThe angle the hose is coming out of the caliper?
No - that the hose comes out of the lever and down the non-drive side fo the frame, instead of looping around the head tube. The hose will rub the frame when you turn the bars as a result.
Looks lovely apart from your saddle, that is an abomination 😀
Interested in your thoughts on how it rides.
No - that the hose comes out of the lever and down the non-drive side fo the frame, instead of looping around the head tube. The hose will rub the frame when you turn the bars as a result.
Santa Cruz routing does the same ie the wrong side. Drives me potty but I suppose its done to fit US brake set up. Starling have no excuses!
You've seen this…?
https://www.cxmagazine.com/nahbs-2017-peacock-grooves-purple-rain-reign/14
(And, yeah, that brake routing round the head tube… hmm. Love it otherwise, though. Can't resist a bit of purple.)
Gotama - MemberSanta Cruz routing does the same ie the wrong side. Drives me potty but I suppose its done to fit US brake set up
Yeah, you're kind of stuck with that because of the internal routing - it does pretty much avoid the rub by sending the cable straight into a port though
Looks stunning Mark.
Hope you are feeling ok better now after the off you mentioned recently 8)
Lovely 8)
Lovely.
You've seen this…?https://www.cxmagazine.com/nahbs-2017-peacock-grooves-purple-rain-reign/14
That was very disappointing, I must say. I'm kind-of glad Prince wasn't still around to see it.
Why don't Giant make a purple Reign though? They're missing a trick there.
Nice!
Yeah, you're kind of stuck with that because of the internal routing - it does pretty much avoid the rub by sending the cable straight into a port though
Digressing here from Mboys lovely bike but the Tallboy is external brake routing all the way.
Back to Starling...would love a Beadyeye singlespeed in 29er. Just because.
No - that the hose comes out of the lever and down the non-drive side fo the frame, instead of looping around the head tube. The hose will rub the frame when you turn the bars as a result.
I quite agree...
BUT... This bike needs a SERIOUSLY long brake hose on the back. Brake hose was pre cut to an already long 1550mm or so, but I need another 150mm or so to route round the head tube. So I'll order another hose and get it sorted at some point and re-do the gear cable too. Have put some spare off-cuts of invisiframe on there for now to stop any cable rub.
Love the Chrome stickers on the purple looks very classy.
Had to get them done separately, Joe only does white or black normally. Glad I spent the extra, I'm chuffed to bits with how they've turned out!
Looks lovely apart from your saddle, that is an abomination
You gotta have a talking point! I love that saddle (it is comfy too) precisely because of that! Besides, a purple Fizik would have clashed slightly I feel... 😆
Starling have no excuses!
Joe has created the routing so it can be done any way, sadly as explained above, I don't have a long enough brake hose. Will sort out in the near future...
You've seen this…?
I have now! That has taken colour coordination to another level to be fair...
That really does look amazing! Love it!
I am coming back in for a second 'oooooh, nice'.
I have some old retro anodised brakes that might suit it, mboy - they're Purple Hayes
Looks stunning Mark.Hope you are feeling ok better now after the off you mentioned recently
Cheers, gravel rash has pretty much healed, got about 50% strength back in my thumb so gonna try ride this weekend for the first time in almost a month! Will be taking it a bit easy though to be fair.
Why don't Giant make a purple Reign though? They're missing a trick there.
You had to go there eh! 😆
That was very disappointing, I must say.
Yeah, it's into tacky territory. Nicely crafted, but a bit tacky.
That is one nice looking bike, hope it rides as good as it looks (they seem to if internet talk is to be believed).
I'd say the hose was on the correct side of the headtube but should be below the gear cable.
I hate cables crossing the headtube, it looks messy and you end up with miles and miles of cable you don't need.
hope it rides as good as it looks
Yeah well, so do I! 😆
Joking aside, I took a bit of a risk with the colour, did wonder if it wasn't a bit much so to speak. Once I'd got the chrome decals on it and smattering of monochrome parts, it started looking way better than I'd even expected!
It's had a couple of laps of the car park out the back of my shop so far, but that's it. Wheelbase is a (to me) massive 1245mm, 60 whole mm longer than my Evil Wreckoning was! The reach feels pretty much spot on, I was worried it might feel a touch long @ 460mm (I'm 5ft10 but long legs and short torso relatively speaking) with the 50mm stem, but it feels just about ok. Could always swap to a 40mm stem I guess if I feel the need.
I have some old retro anodised brakes that might suit it, mboy - they're Purple Hayes
😆
Notice the complete absence of colour everywhere (Maxxis and Burgtec logos aside) apart from the frame...? 😉
I'm not a huge fan of the slack jawed stuff you lot ride but I'm loving the 90's twist on a modern theme.
Is it dirty yet, really thats all I want to know..
Back to Starling...would love a Beadyeye singlespeed in 29er. Just because
you’re not the only one who’s interested 😆
That is very nice indeed
I was keeping an eye out for the full build pics. It's a lovely looking bike.
Needs a darker shade of purple for the top cap bolt though 8)
That is one lovely looking bike
Along with a blue one I saw on Instagram probably the nicest colour murmur I've seen.
Really want one but just a little pricey at the moment.
That's really really really nice.
Oooh, pretty much my current dream bike! The purple really works.
Definitely keen to hear how it rides.
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Really want one but just a little pricey at the moment.
They're starting to come up 2nd hand now and again, keep an eye out on the Starling Facebook page - Joe sometimes posts them up there if owners are moving them on.
They're starting to come up 2nd hand now and again, keep an eye out on the Starling Facebook page - Joe sometimes posts them up there if owners are moving them on.
Yeah I've seen a couple but I guess the chances of one coming up with the geo you want is slim but one can hope I guess!
What geo do you want/need?
Yeah I've seen a couple but I guess the chances of one coming up with the geo you want is slim but one can hope I guess!
Slim, but not impossible... It’s how I got mine. First owner traded it back in with Joe for updated geometry, it was close enough (and at a good price) that I just decided to give Joe the asking price and go with it.
I’ve spent a little more on it with the candy purple spray job but other than that, I’ve tried to be sensible. Got my name on his waiting list for a new one too, so who knows, this one might be up for sale in 6-9 months anyway.
That really is a stunning looking bike. Well jell.
Your saddle however needs placing in the nearest bin..
That is a lovely looking bike!
Nice build! Really like that Mark.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this against the Evil.
Looks like you've just moved the components across (?) so should be a fairly even comparison.
Most of the parts are moved over from my Evil yes, not quite all. Forks, shock and seatpost all different but that’s about it. Weighs about the same, slightly less travel but slightly longer and slacker.
Can’t wait to find out!
Stalker alert. How was the bike today? I see you were out at FOD when checking who beat me down doeys today 😉
So I christened it today...
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My thumb is still very sore sadly after a road bike spill 4 weeks ago, so I was having to be a bit tentative (could barely hold onto the bars after a few runs!), but crucially the bike juts felt good from the off. The looooong (to me) wheelbase wasn't an issue at all, on some tight twisty singletrack, I barely noticed it was 60mm longer than my Evil at all. The reach does feel at the upper end of comfortable though, I think I might need to come down 5-10mm on the stem length soon.
Otherwise, well I swapped the SIXC cranks out for some old 4 bolt RF Atlas I had kicking around, the carbon SIXC's just had zero clearance on the drive side chainstay unless spaced out so that the chainline was crap. My old Atlas' had about another 3mm so that was sorted. Oh and I swapped the 125mm highline post out for a 160mm version... MUCH better!
Conditions in the FoD today were bonkers dry! A few hefty puddles here and there, but mostly super dry grippy loam. The Shorty was overkill on the front for sure...
Stalker alert. How was the bike today? I see you were out at FOD when checking who beat me down doeys today
You need to pedal faster mate! I could barely hold onto the bars and was riding like a princess today!!! 😆
Awesome conditions though... Sooooooo dry for this time of year!
Oh and Joe @ Starling SERIOUSLY has a cult following... The "oh wow, look a Starling" comments (bearing in mind I was nowhere near the trail centre stuff) were numerous!
You need to pedal faster mate!
Always. Today's excuse is I have a cold. Certainly can't blame the ground conditions 🙂
Bike looks and sounds awesome. Shame I missed seeing it in the flesh.
Looks really good!
Big fan of what you've done there. I'm mulling over a respray for my Swoop after a year of hammering and was thinking going conservative with battleship grey but that's got me thinking....
That's lovely.
Did you get the coil Ribbon? How does it compare with the air if so?
Did you get the coil Ribbon?
Been on order since I heard they were putting it into production. Mine’s in the very first batch coming, which last I heard was due with the distributor any day soon. Will chase it up this week... Sold my air Ribbon to a friend in the meantime, so slung my old Stage on for now with the travel upped to 150mm.
Mark, remember your frame is an early model with a slacker seat angle than latest builds. If it feels too long pedalling, the steeper seat angle will solve. I'm assuming it felt good size whilst stood up attacking?
Mark, remember your frame is an early model with a slacker seat angle than latest builds.
I've got the saddle slammed forwards, but also I don't like overly steep seat angles anyway...
I'm assuming it felt good size whilst stood up attacking?
It's definitely longer than I'm used to Joe, but then I knew that when I decided to have it. I spent, like many people I guess, many years riding bikes that were technically too small for me. The realisation of that came when I was starting to ride more technical trails a few years ago, and all of a sudden I started going OTB on almost every ride. I've since experimented with position and found, to a point, that longer is better. I am however "only" 5ft10, I have a relatively long leg and short torso, and I'm not far off as inflexible as a person can be, hence the Mondraker/Pole/Geometron "make it as long as possible then just shorten the stem until the rider can reach the bars" approach doesn't quite work for me. The week before you offered this frame up for sale, I had spoken to Mojo about a G-13, and they were convinced I'd want the 510mm reach size, or at least the 490mm reach if I was being cautious. I've ridden a Whyte G-160 RS a couple of times with a 480mm reach in a medium, and good as it was I felt a bit of a passenger, and I preferred the small (with a 455mm reach was still longer than anything I've owned before). And when you look at the EWS fastest riders, many of them aren't riding especially long bikes either, just crucially they're a bit longer than years gone by...
What I'm saying is I'm not sure I'd want a longer reach, but yes it certainly feels good descending. The wheelbase however wasn't an issue, despite being 60mm longer than my last bike, it felt incredibly balanced and even on some tight twisty singletrack, it cornered admirably. In fact I'd go so far as to say that even after a short 3hr ride, it's one of the most balanced bikes I've ridden and I didn't notice any shortcomings whilst riding it.
I'm looking forward to putting a lot more miles in on it... 😀