[Closed] PSA Superstar Kevlar pads

no shimano XT etc 🙁

Are they better than Avid standard pads? I haven't tried a pad better than Avid pads yet. I tried the Uberbike ones and consequently set fire to them.

What are Kevlar pads?

I know what Organic and Sintered pads are and what they are for... but Kevlar???

In case you get shot in the caliper.

I know what Organic and Sintered pads are and what they are for... but Kevlar???

Great if you live somewhere that eats pads but don't want to comprimise on stopping power.

Sort of inbetween the two really, good allrounder option ime. I just bought a bunch in the last sale at £20 for four, ah well.

so they wear about the same rate as sintered pads.

I find wear in general somewhere between organic and sintered, and wear in gritty conditions more at the organic end of things than sintered.

Good compound though, I quite like it.

Yeah, I'd agree with that, some grit can cut them up pretty fast. But on the plus side they do have very grippy backing plates 😆 Don't ask me how I know, I just know.

They're made from a similar material to the organic pads so have similar power, but the kevlar fibers reinforce them

So would there ever be a reason to buy Organic pads instead of Kevlar pads?

Are the Superstar pads still marginally thicker than most other pads? When I got Avid ones previously they were always thick enough in comparison to the OEM ones that setup was a total pain in the arse because of the lack of clearance with them. How do they compare to OEM Shimano?

So would there ever be a reason to buy Organic pads instead of Kevlar pads?

Yes, Kevlar can be a bit squealy, esp. when wet.

organic are generally pretty quiet.

Ordered, thanks. I don't mind if they are a little noisy, I imagine that they can't be any louder than sintered.

Are the Superstar pads still marginally thicker than most other pads? When I got Avid ones previously they were always thick enough in comparison to the OEM ones that setup was a total pain in the arse because of the lack of clearance with them. How do they compare to OEM Shimano?

Never had an issue with Avid Juicy or Shimano 785 XT style

How would these fair at the Strathpuffer?

I have used the red/kevlar ones and have no misgivings. Using sintered over winter, red just came to the end of their long life.

How would these fair at the Strathpuffer?

Take a box full. They're great pads for stopping, but they don't last 5 minutes in winter filth. I run them all summer, then switch to sintered for the winter

Good psa particlarly as I missed all the others. Ta!

How would these fair at the Strathpuffer?

I'd use sintered, and pre-bed in a few pairs before you go.

So would there ever be a reason to buy Organic pads instead of Kevlar pads?

When I lived in North Yorkshire and the Peak district I was much fussier about compounds, living down south with just normal mud to deal with I'm much less bothered and usualy just use organic as they last long enough not to be objectionable. Organic pads in the Peaks I'd take spare pads on a ride and actualy expect to use them.

Most educational! I'll have to buy a pair and give um a go.

binners - Member

Take a box full. They're great pads for stopping, but they don't last 5 minutes in winter filth.

That depends on your filth tbh- I use the kevlars year round, only ever ridden in a couple of places that burn them fast, my routine forth/tweed valley mud doesn't stress them.

I tried some and had very significant rotor wear over a couple of pairs, friends have had the same so I've gone back to sintered.

Thanks guys, I've always used sintered at the puffer, just thought if kevlar would do I'd get some whilst they're cheap.

Hopefully SS will have an offer on sintered too.

would have thought sintered pads wear a disk more than other compounds.
I'm sure some disc's actually say not to use sintered.

I thought uberbikes race matrix were more durable than organic?

I find ss kevlars a great pad in the dry, but rapidly lose their top end in the wet, and get noisy too. When the muck comes, I find they don't last any better than normal organics. I tend to save them for dry weather only.

thegreatape - Member

I thought uberbikes race matrix were more durable than organic?

Don't know about durability but mine went in the bin after about 40 miles, because they were so ridiculously unpredictable. Like, throw on the brakes before a corner, nothing happens. Next corner, lock up both ends, never felt anything like it. Though to be fair, they did OK for gentle use, it was only when they got properly hot that they were shit.

That doesn't sound good. I only decided to try them after positive comments on here.

Don't worry - I've only used Race Matrix pads for the last 2 year. Great in the UK and the Alps with predictable power and very little noise. IME anyway 🙂

edit - re-reading Northwind's post, I guess the only time the Racematrix pads have let me down was on a big Welsh descent, with a 29er and 160mm rotors and XT brakes, so they can get overheated. I'm not sure any other compound would've fared much better though.

Northwind must have just fitted them wrong then, probably put the front ones at the back and vice versa.

Yeah. Or upside down maybe - they don't like that!

😆 It was alps stuff that showed them up. Nothing too severe, but long. I ended up swapping back to superstar kevlars at the lunch break and carried on doing the same sort of riding for the rest of the week without any of the same issues.

But they were fine for the test rides I did back home, to be fair to them.

I've only had them one ride, so I'll see how they go. Don't imagine I'll be in the Alps anytime soon 🙁

I was tempted to try the Kevlar pads with this offer (stopped using SS a while back for various reasons) but no XT - shame as I don't need any Avids at the mo.