This looks very much like the deal extreme lights folks have been buying, may be of interest to some, from UK store £27.89
Interesting, but it is just the lamp unit - no battery
High capacity rechargeable battery for long life, 4400mAh.
Battery included by the sounds of it.
If you need power and long life out of your bicycle head light then look no further. This rechargeable bike light gives you maximum brightness and long life and will make your bike journeys much safer.- Light will not dim as the battery runs down, manufactured to keep the same level of brightness until the end.
- High capacity rechargeable battery for long life, 4400mAh.
- Compact size, won't take up too much space, and can easily attach to a bikes handlebar. Great for everyday use, mountain biking etc.
- Three light settings: High/Low/Flashing, High: 900 lumens - 4 hours, Low: 300 lumens - 8 hours.
- Fast mains charger included, can fully charge the head light in 3.5 hours. An LED indicator will show when the unit is fully charged.
- Waterproof: no need to worry about the light getting wet.
- Can be applied to all bicycles, 2 different sized strong elastic bands to fix the head light on to any sized handlebar.
I'd say it's a complete set. Might grab one for the commuting bike 🙂
D'oh, my bad. The pics that were showing didn't have a battery, in my crappy defence.
i wondering if the c and b seen 1200 looks slightly better, for a little more money:
http://www.candb-seen.co.uk/bikehead-lights/cabs-02-series---cree-xml.html
I've not used the CandBseen light so don't want to assume too much, but single XML lights tend to be excessively spotlighty. There's a temptation to chase big lumens numbers but I reckon the old P7 lights were far better for riding- they still have a decent amount of light, but with a much more usable throw.
Would anyone know what voltage the battery is?
I was just about to post a PSA about these...
I have one of these but it came from an ebay supplier. The P7 LED with the orange peel reflector which 7dayshop are selling is IMO better as a bike light than the XML with smooth reflectors, which tend to be way too spotty, especially for MTB. The P7/orange peel lights are blimmin great.
Battery is 8.4v
These are bargain lights!
2% Quidco too 8)
Are those lights better than this light?
3600-Lumen 3T6 LED High Power Bicycle Light For 3*Cree XM-L T6
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Just bought one, seems pretty good for the money, beam is bright if a little concentrated, lasts a while too.
the light the OP mentions is the full set not just the lamp unit, i bought 2 a few months ago and they are very good for the money .
Well for £28 and the recommendations on here, im happy to try one. Will report back once it has arrived.
Is this any good as a helmet light or bar mount only?
@Milkie- there's a very detailed technical review of that one in the Unreadable Bikeradar Lights Thread, well worth a look- full strip and poke.
Bought half a dozen last year, one on helmet one on road bike,rest to mates, one on the helmet with tie wraps(semi permo winter helmet) is excellent,mates dont thank me for it if i try and talk to them!!! lasted about 2 hour full plus 1.5 on flash on saturday before cutting out no warning, but it was daylight then( early start)!! no reported faults with these 6 ,but mate bought one last week and the battery case strap snapped on ride 2 leaving him in darkness and the battery back down the road,worked fine after mounting in top pocket,cant be bit at under £30.
UK-based ebayer doing the same light plus a rear, from a thread 3 weeks ago
Ive wrapped the battery in a section of inner tube and duct tape to increase water resistance. This has the smooth reflector.
grum - works well as either. I have the helmet mount zip-tied to the helmet (ties go through helmet vents).
Ah, found it Milkie:
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20005&t=12807034&start=1180#p17939012
from parallel thread
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/any-reason-why-i-shouldnt-buy-this-light
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170876182742
SEVENTEEN quid 😯 🙄
grum - works well as either. I have the helmet mount zip-tied to the helmet (ties go through helmet vents).
Ta, battery pack lead reaches to the camelbak ok?
yes, plenty.
Picture above shows enough wire to put the light on a helmet and the battery in a backpack.
If it arrives with shorter leads like the DX from a few years back, get an extension...but check that you measure the connector size very carefully as there are several options that look very similar.
I would also recommend you put the battery inside 2 layers of nitrile gloves, sealed with a small cable-tie to keep the rain and sweat out...the circuit board is not H2O resistant.
PaulD
I had an XML T6 Bastid style off of Ebay for a shade under £20 a couple of weeks ago, 2 weeks to come from China, works a treat for the money...
The 7dayshop one... the pic shows a two-pin charger, but I assume it comes with a UK one (legal requirement IIRC?)... anyone able to confirm?
Yep, comes with uk adaptor plug.
I'm toying with the idea of this night riding lark. Will this 27 quid light allow me to go round the pentlands/GT in the middle of the night, or is it for commuting predominently?
I've seen tons of threads about lights, and I've confused myself, what with all this chat of beam pattern and lumens, so the first one someone can recommend for the aformentioned purpose, for under 40 bucks (from a uk seller) I'll buy.
ta
it was this one: [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300677445326?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D300677445326%26_rdc%3D1 ]Linky[/url]
4 x 18650 battery, same housing as all the others, O-rings for fitting, a helmet adapter and a UK plug adapter for the charger...
Not bad VFM IMO...
Edit: From China so ~2 Weeks delivery and doubtful "Product support" but come on these same lights wer going for about the £35+ about 12-18 months ago and you can merrily tank into pitch black woodland with one (or two)...
great price cookeaa but description and photo show NON uk plug. you sure it came with uk plug?
edit: i should say was it a uk charger or did it also come with a uk adapter?
edit 2: did you incur any customs or additional charges?
Tpbiker - yes this is ideal for off road. I've had the dx version around gt and the pentlands for the last 2 years. I originally had it on the bars and now lid (with a more expensive bar light).
There are brighter lights nowadays. And spottier lights (eg t6). And floodier lights. But for the cash this is a great allround first light. I would happily get another if needed.
My only additional comment is bring a backup / torch. Any light can and does die unexpectedly.
Yep Same sort of cheapo US std 2pin charger all the other chinese lights seem to come with, and a UK plug adapter was in the box (but not expected, just a pleasant little surprise).
I had no extra charges...
I'll probably order myself another one or two as reserves, the same seller seems to have a couple of similar listings, same product different price/carriage charges, which all combine to about £17.50ish, dunno if exchange rate has had an impact as mine was ~£18 - £19 I think...
18 quid! Thats what I'd call a bargain Do I need 2, or will one do the job?
Tpbiker- my comments are for the p7 light in the OP. I also had a t6 that was too spotty and I got rid of. Others seem to like them though. Maybe one of each if the budget allows?
I still have an old P7 on the bars and that XML on my lid, one would be perfectly sufficient 2 (1 on bars, 1 on your noggin) is a bit better...
Be aware they are not the perfect light; the battery needs to be kept dry (there are many, many threads on this, I use cling film and bury it in my pack or in a cargo bottle) and the beam pattern has a nice big hot spot with a peripheral Halo type effect, but they do the job for night rides at a fraction of the cost of an Exposure or Hope unit, the obvious trade off being build quality, beam pattern weather proofness and of course a UK number to call when it goes tits up...
You pays your money you makes your choice... If your trying out night riding they do the job should your needs be for a more serious setup for say regular Enduro racing? then maybe consider more expensive options...
I bought from the same company (although a different eBay id, but they seem to have several), ordered three, £16.50 each at the time. They arrived from China in a week and a half, with no customs charges. Came with two pin chargers, but with UK adapters.
They work fine, very bright, but a bit spotty, so I ordered 3 of the 'orange peel' reflectors and one wide angle lens from Action LED in the US. The reflectors make the light pattern a lot more usable, and the wide angle lens gives a good flood for the bars. I use two bar mounted, one flood and one spot, and one spot on the helmet. One on the helmet would probably be ok most of the time, but having two lights, one on the helmet and one on the bars does help with depth perception.
cookeaa
Best review I've seen. Well written.
Thanks cp.
Tpbiker - get two, one for the bars anyone on the helmet. Or maybe better the P7 one for the bars and the T6 for your helmet. You definitely want two though, for backup if nothing else.
Ive got a T6 one only, and the spot is strong, but ill be using this on my helmet, then a P7 jobbie on the bars, which im yet to get.
So in basic terms (from my experience of seeing/owning both)
T6 - Focused spot beam - wear on helmet
P7 - Wider Flood - Mount on bars
Done.
Thanks folks
Given the original link is out of stock can I just check are all P7 and T6 lights equal?
For example
[url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1200lm-Ultra-Bright-Bike-Bicycle-Cycle-MTB-Front-Light-LED-Torch-Headlamp-SSC-P7-/180978235586?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Cycling_Bike_Lights&hash=item2a2324b8c2#ht_6913wt_1086 ]p7 on Ebay[/url]
Is this the same as in the original link? I imagine they are all made in same factory, they all look the same?
Tim
tpbiker
A couple of cheap lights for the Pentlands will see you right. I got one last year and went for my first night ride of this autumn yesterday.
Amazing fun, makes you seem like you are riding faster, atmospheric (mist in the trees) and wildlife - I had a bat flying in front of me lit up by my light! Definately brings a new dimension to riding.
tpbiker: I'm not sure if they all come from / assembled in the same factory but anyway I'd only advice trying to get one with a uk / eu charger and one that you have a reasonable chance of making a warranty claim in 6 months time (unless you like fixing stuff yourself). But for below £30 surely it's worth a punt - including your ebay one.
My order from the 7day shop was the SSC P7 jobbie turned up. The charger is a proper uk 3 pin one (no adaptor needed).
Also included (as per the picture) is the battery, lamp unit and head strap.
The battery is pretty small and additional waterproofing required. It comes pre charged too.
The strobe mode is ridiculously flashy so be warned!
The lamp is simple to operate, pressing the power button cycles through the modes as follows
High->Low->Strobe->Off
I've had it on full at my desk for about an hour (desk fan for cooling!) and the charge indicator is still green.
Im going to have a play around with the mount, as I think I can swap over the Cateye mount I already have.
In summary well put together and fairly simple. Will try it out at some point next week on the bike.
Same as bigyinn mine arrived just now.
Battery does seem proper tiny compared with my V2 pack from Smudge.
Strobe is interesting - not sure it could ever be used as its more rave lighting than bike lighting.
Still for use in the garage it should be fine 8)
Pulled the light apart the other day and the sealing is good. BUT where the cable exits the light body there is no rubber grommet, so im going to put a bit of silicone sealant around the hole to keep the moisture out.
I've also wrapped the battery in clingfilm, as advised by others.
Not 100% convinced that the o-ring bar clamp is solid enough, but if not Im planning to use an old mount off my Cateye EL700. May need to space out the clamp by 3mm to clear the cable, but should be easy enough to cobble something together.
Just had an e mail from the e bay store I bought one of these lights from asking me to return it for a full refund due to the risk of "potentially dangerous failure" that had been highlighted by the trading standards agency.
Anyone else had this?
😯 😯 😯
there was a thread earlier today benefit of buying from a uk seller, I guess - hong kong one would say nowt.
Had one for about a year - still running sweetly.
Bought one each for my 2 lads and they look and seem to work just as well.
£27 per winter is pretty good, more than that is a bonus.
One tight but happy Tyke.
Don't know whether to send it back or not, it seems to work ok and I was quite pleased with it until that e mail!
Not sure what a "potentially dangerous failure" could be, exploding battery perhaps?
ordered one from a uk ebay seller at 10pm mon night, arrived 9am wed morning - brilliant. the £28 light is brighter than the 3 year old dx bastid that is still going strong. the p7 has orange peel reflector beam pattern looks good - shame it's for 12 yr old son! off out to weather proof battery - killed original dx battery on 1st outing so don't want to repeat that!
The biggest risk would be the batteries over heating and catching fire whilst being charged (which has happened with Li-ions), so in an ideal world only charge them when you're around ie not at night when you're asleep. Alternately, I put my Li-ions in a metal biscuit box when charging them, so if they do go tits up, the damage is contained.
tpbiker - MemberI'm toying with the idea of this night riding lark. Will this 27 quid light allow me to go round the pentlands/GT in the middle of the night, or is it for commuting predominently?
Just in from a night ride on the downhill bikes at innerleithen- mate was using 2 of those P7 lights from the original post. It's a lot more light than I started nightriding on, upgrading to a single P7 was a big deal!
So yeah, they'll be fine, unless they burn your house down, which they most probably won't.

