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Tubeless is worth it for the lack of punctures alone, I would say its still worth doing if you are running higher pressures.
In other news my Trig showed up unexpectedly this morning after being dispatched yesterday. I'm waiting on the bits I ordered to turn up before I open it.
Have a set of these on the way, might be a bargain if anyone else wants some lighter wheels. https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/650b-gravel-db-sport-carbon-clincher-wheelset/
congrats mate, what you upgrading?
Cheers, not quite sure how much yet.. but I have some lighter kit on my outgoing NS RAG+ and I may be tempted to try AXS as I've been impressed with it on the MTB (if the price is right). I should probably have just bought the frame-only option lol!
Despatched.....time for that conversation....you can't hud a purple bike! 😃
Some advice needed relating to the Trig please guys, I’m 16st been out the biking game for a while tubless wasnt really a thing when I was last into biking, if Im doing about 50/50 trails/road is it worth going tubeless? I 2 minutes ride from Cannock chase/Gentleshaw common so thats where I will be riding. Ive always used higher pressures years ago cuz of being heavy 50-60psi
Always worth going tubeless IMO and the Trig's wheels and tyres are ready to do so. I'm probably a bit heavier than you and run mine between 30 and 40 psi, maybe more towards 40.
Mine showed up unexpectedly today as well! Yep, very much purple! I really like the colour though.
First time on drops, I had a pedal around the block, felt fast. Looking forward to some rides on this
In case anyone wasn't aware it comes with tubeless valves and the rims are taped already, just needs some sealant.
cool PSA!
if anybody is interested in a L and has a fork that fits or is handy with CF repairs? wiggle are auctioning one on ebay with a fault on the fork
Love my trig, but think im gonna have to take a little bit off my seat post, anyone else struggle with the supplied chainstay protector I gave up in the end and used a different one 😊
Who's had there's?
I think the chainstay protector isn't big enough, I can get mine on (L frame) but there's not a lot of velcro holding it there. I'll try make something else out of heli tape.
Love my trig, but think im gonna have to take a little bit off my seat post
You went for the bigger of the sizes didn't you. I'm guessing its a 400mm post - I assume it hits the bottle bosses. Just remember how much you take off and to ignore the minimum post insert marks in the future!
Yeah I went for the medium I'm happy with how it fits but my saddle is just a smidge to high, and you are right it hits the bottle bosses a 350mm post would if been fine.
Just home from a first shakedown ride on mine; 34 miles, 800m ascent and a really good mix of tracks, woodland and Sidlaw hills singletrack.
I'm glad I changed the stem straight away to 80mm, it's a better fit already.
First, negatives: I don't like the shape or the feel of the bars so far and have sore hands, despite going tubeless and running about 28psi. I struggle to get a good position for braking on the drops. However as others have suggested, braking from the hoods is surprisingly good and getting better as the pads bed in too.
I clipped pedals on tree roots and the sides of heathery singletrack ruts three or four times. Even with 170mm cranks, there's not a huge amount of clearance.
Positives: just about everything else. Acceleration, quick steering and the range of gearing all seems grand, just what I was looking for. Tyres coped adequately with wet peaty singletrack, everything else being fine.
It's no match for an xc hardtail on twisty, downhill woodland singletrack but that's hardly surprising. It did however stay the right way up, so I reckon that's a good result.
Now to give it a thorough going over and either flip the stem or at least move a spacer or two. My bars are way lower than the seat.
Yeah the chainstay protector is too small, I used a bigger one that I had in stock.
My existing gravel bike has 700c wheels and I miss those on the Ragley so I'm in the process of converting them.
The stock 650b wheels and tyres are too heavy/slow for my taste, but I've got some of those cheap Ribble carbon ones on the way to try.
Just need to find some bargain 650b tyres now.
Mine turned up yesterday! Not had chance to try it yet. It’s been nicknamed Dairy Milk.
What's the little orange plastic thing in the box with the reflectors tubeless valves and stuff?
What’s the little orange plastic thing in the box with the reflectors tubeless valves and stuff?
The only orangey / red thing I have is the pad spacer - stick it in between the pads when you're transporting the bike with the front wheel out.
@highlandman, Got a picture of how the brifters are set up? If you can't find a good braking position in the drops, the shifters might be angled up a bit too much. My Giant shipped with shifters reaching for the skies!
If you put your hand in the crook of the drop, maybe pointing down a bit, and point your index finger, you ought to be able to grab the lever with 1/2 fingers and get it so you have that finger tip control. Also means it's less likely your hands will bounce off the top of the hood on a bump. If you're only getting the tip of the lever, the hoods might be pointing too high for you.
It's still very much personal taste though, so perhaps you're not a fan of the drop as it is and that's ok. (Also - different bars have different amounts of drop, I have enjoyed moving to a much shallower drop).
Thanks for that. I've started out by flipping the stem and moving 5mm of spacer to raise the bars and have then tilted them down very slightly..
Work in progress.
Thanks for that. I’ve started out by flipping the stem and moving 5mm of spacer to raise the bars
Don't forget that carbon steerers don't like to have the stem at the very top as it can crush the carbon, so make sure there is a spacer above the stem.
Is the frame actually lightweight?
I'd be surprised if so, given its cromo from a value brand.
Is the frame actually lightweight?
Don't imagine so (though mine is spending the Easter weekend getting some quality R&R with parcelforce so not done the garage lift and assess compulsory new bike test in person). Triple butted 4130, so not gas pipe, but not going to be light either. I'm not super convinced spending lots of cash upgrading it to improve the weight is the right way- it'll always be a bit hefty no matter what you throw at it - it's a vfm very functional and tough bike and kind of needs to be celebrated for exactly that. And being purple obviously. £650 for frame and forks at rrp, so (I hope) a bit better than my old PX pompino in terms of material, build and paint finish; but I suspect not by much. But it's no 853 work of art either.
It's always going to be a steel frame but as far as steel goes it seems pretty light, tubes feel quite thin if you give them a tap and I wouldn't call it a gaspipe special!
I sized up because at 5'11 I'm between M and L, size feels good though and should be perfect once I put an 80mm stem on it.
Is the frame actually lightweight?
Wiggle give the frame only (without fork) weight as 2.32kg which is about 1kg heavier than the stated weight for my alloy NS Rag+. In comparison a Cotic Escapade is stated as 2.63kg (large).
Took mine for a spin today, 1st time on this type of bike. Wow they are fast compared to my mtb! Was giggling blasting down the lanes for an hour!
Seat is horrific though!
Do most people just use the same seat on your mtb or something else?
I put a Brooks C17 on mine
Hmmmm, I seem to have inadvertently won that Trig on eBay with the dodgy fork 😅
It's a large, can someone with a large pretty please tell me roughly what length fork steerer I'll need on it to run a stem a small selection of spacers?
I'll start rummaging for a fork before it arrives.
(I see there is a trig fork on eBay at the moment, presume they've not changed the spec of the fork between generations!?)
I'd probably wait to see if the fork is saveable tbh, doesn't look too bad? Mine is a 2021 and the forks are the same. Seems the saddle has changed, mine is a Ragley branded Spoon.
They were selling the forks on wiggle for £200ish.
One downside with GRX chainsets is they have a unique bottle spacing, you can now buy a few different makes of chainrings but they're not cheap especially an oval one. Also the smallest ring is not that small if you fancy a nice low gear for touring.
In hindsight I think I should have sold my GRX chainset when new and bought a mountain bike instead.
Is the frame actually lightweight?
I’d be surprised if so, given its cromo from a value brand.
As above, it's pretty decent for a 4130 frame.
I've just swapped the stock wheels for some light-ish 700c ones and the bike feels a lot lighter overall.
Hmmmm, I seem to have inadvertently won that Trig on eBay with the dodgy fork 😅
I was watching that and expected it to sell far higher. If the fork issue proves too difficult/expensive and you want to get rid, PM me.
A question for all you Trig owners - how's the sizing in use?
At 5' 11" its the usual smack in the middle of M and L situation for me. Never ridden this sort of bike, I've got no frame of reference to know if sizing up or down is the way to go
I'm 5ft 8in and bought the medium, it's a great fit.
So I'd suspect you'd want the large. Would you usually go for large in road/gravel frames?
I'm 5'11 and went with the large, feels perfect for me, not at all like I'm riding a big bike, still comfy and didn't feel stretched even with the 90mm stem.
A question for all you Trig owners – how’s the sizing in use?
At 5′ 11″ its the usual smack in the middle of M and L situation for me. Never ridden this sort of bike, I’ve got no frame of reference to know if sizing up or down is the way to go
I'll let you know in a few hours - mine arrives at lunch! You and I seem to be identical in size and I went for the L.
Though to be honest I have already ordered mine a redshit cockpit (kitchen sink 500mm bars and an 80mm shock stem).The Redshift Bars have a 20mm rise and with the extra width it'll be all changed.
Large for me at the same height, 5'11".
I've swapped out the stem to 80mm from the spares box and it's flipped as I found the drop from saddle to bars too much at first. I've fairly lengthy legs, a lot of visible seatpost and I'm not a committed head-down, stretched out roadie.
I did notice something that owners might want to check; the rear brake hose on mine initially sat really close to the rear tyre as it was a bit tight along the chainstay between the BB shell and the caliper. I just loosened the down tube grips and brought a couple of extra mm of hose past the BB and that's created enough clearance.
In the medium term, I'll probably change the bars to something with a flattened section on the curve of the drops. I don't find their even, rounded curve shape comfortable, especially when braking from the drops on singletrack.
The tubeless tyres went up first time with the track pump & about 70ml of Stans each.
Thanks!
The only experience I have with this sort of bike is the medium Octane One Kode singlespeed that I do most of my winter miles on. It only ever sees mostly flat cycle path and tarmac.
A Trig in L is looking right to me now. Slightly longer in reach, ETT and stack than the Kode, which I assume will be good for the longer gravel miles that I'm planning.
6' 2" and the L seems to work for me. Lots of very careful faff with set up as I was half expecting to send back for the XL, but it all looks good. It's very different to my 165mm enduro bike. Looking forward to just going for a ride.
To confirm - having swung my leg over the large now, at 180cm/ 5'11" I can't conceive the medium would possibly be the right size for me.
Other thoughts - lovely paint finish....if you like purple (mine will be known as Barney). The bars and tape wrap out of the box are not great imo - tops feel thin and a bit uncomfortable - could be shaped better or double wrapped etc. The hoods are mounted too high for my tastes too (or at least they are on mine). And the saddle is average. But these are the easy to sort bits and bobs. Looking to sorting it properly and giving it some proper miles.
How are we all getting on with our Trigs then?
I've got some lighter 700c wheels on mine now, which are much more my jam.
It's still more of a comfy cruiser than a racer, but I can appreciate how the steel frame smooths out the bumps once you do get up to speed.
Looking forward to some longer rides on it.
Insta link because the forum hosting is STILL borked...
Loving mine. Amazing how much ground can be covered on the right bike. Commuted a couple of times and chucked an extra 7 miles on the local xc loop, just because.
Several 30+ miles under the belt now and I'm very happy with mine. Most of the rides have been mixed surfaces, some road, some tracks, some singletrack but mostly mellow.. Although I did take it down a fairly open but quite bumpy steep local descent on the local loop around Glamis and that was suitably scary, mostly through the saddle height more than anything else. It handles just fine; it 'fits', making sense in a surprisingly wide range of situations and is good entertainment value for quick local jaunts as well as longer rides.
The brakes are more effective than I expected from the hoods, fine for 99% of riding, even some well techy stuff, perhaps well beyond the bike's expected parameters.
I did wonder at first about the gearing being a bit short at the bottom end for steep climbing but that has actually been fine. It's a swift and effective climber, feeling light up steep hills even if the scales wouldn't particularly agree.
What would I change? The stem is already down to 80mm and pointing up but I'd already done that for the first ride. I still don't like the bars; the curve doesn't fit my hands at all well on the drops and I find it harsh and hard to feel confident braking. So a carbon bar with a flat drop section to allow for comfort and better braking would be nice, with perhaps some posh bar tape. If the budget stretches, I might go Lauf. The shape of these is similar to those on my long distance bike, albeit those bars are alloy and much wider than the widest Icelandic option.
I would however prefer a shorter crank arm. I have clipped pedals on exposed roots and rocks a couple of times, once ending up on the deck as a result. I would imagine that changing to 700cx40mm might reduce that issue a bit but that's well beyond budget and while I do have that size of tyre in the shed and swappable wheels, I'm not sure I will be motivated enough to try that out.
Anyway, it's fun mixing up road rides by heading down tracks and not worrying about potholes, lumpy repairs or gravel washouts. Delighted.
Just finished getting mine built up with the bargainous Force AXS kit from Ribble.
Hopefully get out for a shakedown spin tomorrow and then a bigger ride on Monday. I'm sure I'll have to tweak the position a bit - steeper seat-tube (yet still with a layback post) and longer reach is confusing me a bit so I think it'll get set by feel rather than by numbers!
Just finished getting mine built up with the bargainous Force AXS kit from Ribble.
Nice, I saw that but I like the Shimano transmission so I just got some of the bargain carbon gravel wheels & tyres.
Should be able to give them a try next week, see if 650b is better for me with light wheels and less-draggy tyres.
The brakes are more effective than I expected from the hoods, fine for 99% of riding, even some well techy stuff
They are even more effective and control/handling is greater with your hands on the drops. Much less chance of your hands bouncing off than on the hoods. That way you can tackle chunkier routes
Try ritchey corsalito bars for short reach, shallow drop but great flare goodness