Are you looking a full bike or just a frame? The geometry is quite a bit different.
My full suspension MTB is XL and the Ragley I've noted the measurements for above is also an XL.
I'm 6ft 3 so usually I'm just the biggest size on everything but 190cm is the top end of an L and bottom end of XL on a Ragley Big Al which has thrown me a bit!
I'm just shy of 6'3" and my Piglet's an L. Anything bigger would feel freakish.
I’ve ordered a green Marley 29er frame (fingers crossed a spare hanger turns up somewhere).
Now resisting the urge to colour match the saddle, stem, bars and grips! (suspect it would either look completely epic or completely naff, can’t decide which).
Also wondering if this Lyric fork would be a better option than the Bomber Z2 that I already have?
https://www.wiggle.com/p/rockshox-lyrik-select-rc-debonair-boost-fork
For the price I was looking at a full bike, I'm not too worried about the geometry as I'm no where near a pro doing big jumps etc. I'm more concerned about getting the correct size.
It looks like you would need to be a giant to ride an XL, I'm definitely 6ft 3 but people are riding L?
Youll want an xl at 6 3
I'm 5'11" and a Large fits me perfectly. I'd be going XL at 6'3"
I'm 6ft 2 and ride an XL. Feels lovely.
My full suspension MTB is XL and the Ragley I’ve noted the measurements for above is also an XL.
Something is amiss here as 480mm is the reach for a L, not an XL. That's for the 2023 frame, perhaps have a check on the Ragley site. The 480mm figure might be for the old XL Big Al?
At 6ft3 I agree XL is likely to be better even though that pushes the reach beyond your current bike, which is to be expected as bikes are still getting longer.
Just checked. They are indeed numbers for the complete bike in XL, so 2022 geometry
Sorry yes it's a full bike so it's the older geometry.
If I was getting the 2023 frame I would go for a large, it's quite a bit bigger than the 2022 frame!
On the sizing question I'm 6ft and went from a size large Big Al, to taking a punt on a medium in this sale bonanza.
Depends what you're after feel wise, but for me the medium has proved to be way better. It is so much more fun and throwable (as much as a 29er can be). Size large wanted to plough in a straight line, size medium is quite happy being flung all over the place.
^^^ sounds like a shorter stem might have suited a L better. I am 6ft too and while I haven't ridden much yet it seems to turn in nicely and being quite lively despite being a L.
The frames I really want are a couple of Piglet frames in small. Been looking since before Chiggle administration but they don't ever appear to have been available. Has anyone seen them at this price?
^^^ sounds like a shorter stem might have suited a L better. I am 6ft too and while I haven’t ridden much yet it seems to turn in nicely and being quite lively despite being a L.
Yeah, the stem was probably as small as I could get it without being zero stack! I think it's more the standover height. This was a previous gen Big Al, and the medium has a much lower stand over - you can definitely shift your weight around more easily without clonking a saddle / frame.
Isn't the 2023 Big Al lower than the 2022?
Im 6.3 and ride the xl Al for me im not %100 sure its a good fit , the previous 21 Al was a brilliant fit this however has me wondering if im stooping and could do with a little more stack or bar hight.
6ft on a 2023 Big Al here - find it super nimble for its size and has loads of standover (can barely reach the bottle). Currently running quite a high front end due to a 170mm fork, takes a bit of effort to keep the front wheel in check but hoping a 150mm airshaft will sort that.
Deffo wouldn't want to go smaller.
He's mine, finished the mods now. 140mm Pikes, Sram 1x11 Gearing, WTB i25 KoM on boosted Superstar Switch and Hope Pro2 hubs, Hope Race X2 brakes, One-Up 150mm Dropper, Maxxis 2.4 Dissector/Rekon tyres and whatever finishing kit I had spare. 12.5Kg (27.5LBs) as pictured.
I will add .. mine was getting stripped and scrapped today after 3 rides of nothing but god awful creaking under load .. everything bar one was checked and torqued .. if this happens just check the rear dropouts are tight and loctited in . 4 bolts were slightly loose and whisper quiet now once again..
That's one lovely bike GFJ! Ready for a longer dropper at some point perhaps?
Thanks for the tip Steve!
if this happens just check the rear dropouts are tight and loctited in . 4 bolts were slightly loose
Yeah seen this mentioned as a known issue on the Ragley FB page, so tightened mine before building, they all needed a quarter turn. Be careful, the bolts are soft
Well I've placed my order for the Ragley big Al 1.0 2022, I'm a bit late to the party but the low stock warning was all I needed to encourage me to place my order (Only 1 left now).
Can't believe I was looking at the same bike a couple of months a go when it was £1500+ and the cheapest second hand one on eBay was £1000.
I couldn't stretch to a scratch built 2023 frame/bike but I'm pretty happy with what I've got, the only other bike for a similar price was a GT Zaskar with Suntour forks!
Any idea how long delivery will take? It says it should arrive by 14/12.
Fingers crossed someone decides to build a derailleur hangar for them. I noticed someone posted a notice on the FB group about a shop in America selling Nukeproof cub scout hangers (same fitment) but I think the shop is a scam as they're listing a lot of Ragley, Nukeproof kit etc for silly prices (Frame for $89!?)
but I think the shop is a scam as they’re listing a lot of Ragley, Nukeproof kit etc for silly prices (Frame for $89!?)
Yeah, I fell for it without checking it out properly.
Got a despatch email (from China 🤣) today though, so will be interesting to see what turns up if anything
If anyone does break a hanger and can’t find a replacement, send me a message and I can machine a few, the design isn’t complicated. Only thing I can’t easily do is get them anodised black, so they’d be raw silver.
Knock a few out mate and get them on the Ragley Facebook page, you'll sell them no problem.
If you do make any, I'll deffo have a couple off you
Me too. I would spray it black.
I’d buy one off you too. 👍
I'll definitely buy one, doesn't matter about the colour.
Me too
if this happens just check the rear dropouts are tight and loctited in . 4 bolts were slightly loose
Yeah seen this mentioned as a known issue on the Ragley FB page, so tightened mine before building, they all needed a quarter turn. Be careful, the bolts are soft
SPD cleat bolts work as replacements, and they're normally 4mm fitting, so less likely to round off.
Ok, at some point over the next couple of weeks I'll have a look at making a batch.
I’d buy two!
12.5Kg (27.5LBs) as pictured
So checked mine again - luggage scales and digital bathroom scales. Both saying 32lb
The tubes that I've mentioned are 550g (1.2lbs), you can offset some of that with 200g(?) sealant if you're tubeless. Other than that, I have a chain guide, which hardly weighs anything.
Where the hell is the rest of my weight coming from?
Not overly concerned as it rides fantastic, just curious
TAFKAS - different sized frames?
TAFKAS – different sized frames?
Maybe - not sure if that Marley is medium or large (Marley and Big Al frames weigh the same for the relevant size). Looks mint by the way GFJ 👍
nickfrogs is the same size as mine and he still has a good 2lb over mine
2lb isn't much to be bothered about at the end of the day, just expected my build to come in at around 30lb
Nothing major, but a lot of things on mine are a little lighter so it all adds up. Bet there's a fair bit in the wheels, the I25 KoM with Laser spokes, Ali nipples and tubeless saves a fair bit. Light brakes with smaller light rotors. 395g cassette and pikes also help.
Wheels tyres/tube easily make up most of it I reckon
Forks a bit
The NP wheels come in at 1850g, so it ain't them. Guess the tyres are reasonably hefty compared to some though - 920 rear, 980 front?
GFJ's parts list explains some of it though
930/950g for the Maxxis I think so very similar. RSP carbon bars are lighter, as is a ti bolted Foride stem and I think my pedals are sub 300g.
Did you weigh the wheels? The reviews I read (which meant I didn't buy them) put them as being more like 2150g
Did you weigh the wheels? The reviews I read (which meant I didn’t buy them) put them as being more like 2150g
No mate, but next time I have the front out, I'll drop it on the scales and see 👍
Built this up using bits I've bought on offer over that last year or so. Large Bigwig frame, Fox 36's (Would like to drop the travel to 150 but I'll see how it rides first) TRP brakes, SRAM NX (Not great I know but it'll do for a winter hack!) Temporary front wheel/tyre as Superstar still haven't sent the right hub adaptors. Will take it out on a local ride this week to see it everything is ay-ok, Preferred the full suss for todays Hebden trails
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There’s now another 10% off the Ragley frames and bikes with EXTRA10 code…
Thanks for that (I think...). I've had a 50% Vitus urban bike in my basket all weekend and the EXTRA10 takes another £35 off it. That's tipping me further towards buying...
