Thanks for the PSA (have they got a new model coming out?)
Do you know what headset you need for it?
Looks like all their frames are in a 7 day sale
Trail Fatty is the same price
Good god that's a great price for a brand new frame.
FSA Orbit C-40 No.42 ACB Tapered Headset
There's not a new model replacing it anytime soon, just a deal on a few frames this week.
How does the Parkwood get on with plus tyres?
They have a new 27.5 model but the geometry is really old school on it, not a fan.
No ideas if they have a new parkwood 29er coming out. It's a tidy frame though. Rides nice.
Think the headset I bought was this:
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/HSFSOC40ACB/fsa-orbit-c-40-no42-acb-tapered-headset
£70 frame and £44 headset... 😆
Are there any cheaper alternatives to the FSA?
Think they had a picture with trailblazers and scraper rims but I'd not guarantee it. Is pretty roomy out the back.
Must be, I didnt pay that for mine. Sorry i'm not too sure on dimensions to check out alternatives though.
Hmm - just fine, it seems (assuming this is the same frame?)
http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes/parkwood-275-plus
This £14 one fits a Fatty Trail which is the same I think?
[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/brand-x-headset-integrated-tapered-steerer/rp-prod130924 ]http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/brand-x-headset-integrated-tapered-steerer/rp-prod130924[/url]
No brainer at that price, really like my 29er
Are there any cheaper alternatives to the FSA?
Yes it's just a standard headset size
Actually while we're on that headset, I have the same one in my roadbike and want to get a blingier one for no reason other than that I'm a tart. Anyone know if CK do a version for that size/standard - I'm finding it hard to navigate the world of such things.
£15 headset [url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-1-18-15-integrated-headset-with-alloy-cap/?sku=5360597730 ]here[/url] at Wiggle.
Think the lifeline headset at Wiggle is very slightly larger than FSA No. 42?
Try these
https://www.alpkit.com/products/love-mud-rumour
Luckily I can't access the On-One site to get caught up in a buying frenzy like I did on the PSA: Formula R0 Brakeset thread
Actually while we're on that headset, I have the same one in my roadbike and want to get a blingier one for no reason other than that I'm a tart. Anyone know if CK do a version for that size/standard - I'm finding it hard to navigate the world of such things.
I don't think they do, I don't think Hope do either, it's not really a headset, just the bearings, top and bottom races, and a cover on the top. However the bearings are the same as some headsets, IIRC Hope bearings will fit. Whether a Hope crown race forms a decent seal against the headtube is a different matter.
King won't fit for sure, as their USP is that the bearings are pressed into the cups.
I'm finding it hard to navigate the world of such things.
IS 42 / 28.6 - IS 52.2 / 39.8
IS = integrated
42/28.6 outer/inner diameter of the upper bearing
52.2/39.8 outer/inner diameter of the lower bearing
Or a 'normal' 1.1/8 headset would be in the new nomenclature
EC 34/28.6 - EC 34/30
EC - external cups
34 = headtube diameter
28.6 = 1.1/8"
30= the little lip at the bottom of your fork steerer
Or a 44mm headtube with a 1.1/8 fork
ZS 44/28.6 - ZS 44/30
ZS = zero stack
bugger i've got a pair of rigid forks and some 29er wheels which will soon be spare - i don't need anymore soddin bikes!
Looking at some of the cheap frames for SS commuter. Do the roadie type ones pictured with a fork actually come with a fork?
That's a give away
thisisnotaspoon - Member
if CK do a version for that size/standard - I'm finding it hard to navigate the world of such things.I don't think they do, I don't think Hope do either
Cool, ta - that was pretty much my conclusion.
JH - if it says "Frameset" rather than just Frame, then yes, I'd expect its an F&F bundle.
http://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=103&p=1786&tb=001
Some nice and light, full carbon rigid forks for over twice the cost of the frame?
Ooh more special offers when I clicked the link!
Flash sale - Pod Deluxe Stuffsac Only £4.99 Was [b]£4.38[/b]
Awesomes! 🙂
theflatboy - Member
Actually while we're on that headset, I have the same one in my roadbike and want to get a blingier one for no reason other than that I'm a tart. Anyone know if CK do a version for that size/standard - I'm finding it hard to navigate the world of such things.
Hope do the type 3 upper which is the same - and the new type 7 (I have a 3 here that I#m about to send back, my last needed a Type 7). Both are IS41, but the 7 is what they call a "Campy style" IS41, has a taller cover
That's cheap enough that it's even tempting me, Chief H8er. Consider going up a size btw, they're pretty stubby. I've seen one locally with 2.8 Nics in it, apparently it's fine for mud clearance.
Anyone compared these to a Scandal 29er, both running 100mm forks (Brant said 100 would be fine in an old topic)?
Friend is having my 16" Scandal but wondering if this would be a bit more modern geometry as it looks a good few degrees slacker.
Still wouldn't touch it 🙂
I have a parkwood and a scandal 29er frame, and the scandal is a fair bit steeper and chainstays are 444mm to the parkwood's 435mm...so will feel a fair bit different.
I really like the ride of my parkwood, i know some say it is 'old school' and really short, but it's not quite that bad. It is very capable and versatile, and i'm pretty tempted by a spare one for £80, i just don't need one!
I'd get one if they did an XL... Shame.
JH - if it says "Frameset" rather than just Frame, then yes, I'd expect its an F&F bundle.
I've always wondered if framesets come with the headset and if so, is it fitted?
[i]I've always wondered if framesets come with the headset and if so, is it fitted? [/i]
and a crown race?
Christ that makes my lightly used one worthless !!
n0b0dy0ftheg0at - MemberI've always wondered if framesets come with the headset and if so, is it fitted?
Since it's on one, it does come with a headset, it's just that they fitted it to the BB shell.
Just scrolling through their site and noticed a tasty hardcore frame. What's this Deedar? They kept that one quiet.
Stealth dropper routing
12x142
Nice and slack
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http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes/on-one-deedar
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROODD27/on-one-deedar-275-steel-hardtail-frame
Thread somewhere on the dedar
It's not "that" slack and not very long.
This £14 one fits a Fatty Trail which is the same I think?http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/brand-x-headset-integrated-tapered-steerer/rp-prod130924
Yep I've used one in a v2 parkwood frame ... I think it was an interference fit thou but no big issue.
Thread somewhere on the dedarIt's not "that" slack and not very long.
It's a bit weird that they got the Codeine 650b geometry so right but haven't gone as progressive with any of their other frames.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with short bikes, it's just completely taking the piss to make an 1135mm long bike with 417mm of reach and claim it's long.
Thread somewhere on the dedar
It's not "that" slack and not very long.
You're right about it not being long enough. But put 150 forks on, and it would make it 65° which is pretty damn slack
it's just completely taking the piss to make an 1135mm long bike with 417mm of reach and claim it's long.
+1. its got similar geo to an inbred, with a slack HA. Wheelbase/ front centre is longer; but the ETT/ Reach is the same as an inbred. which dates from 2002 ish. IIRC. hardly progressive.
Any value in swapping the bits off my Boardman 29'er onto one of these..?
No.
Got a Chinese carbon 29er frame at the minute - really tempted by this.
Is the consensus good? Will it be an improvement despite the higher weight?
+1. its got similar geo to an inbred, with a slack HA. Wheelbase/ front centre is longer; but the ETT/ Reach is the same as an inbred. which dates from 2002 ish. IIRC. hardly progressive.
Unfortunately for marketing people the human body doesn't progress as quickly as they'd like so a bicycle will still pretty much look like a bicycle. 🙂
Gits, just went to order one for a friend as I was too tired last night and they have gone up to £120.
Oh well, that have saved me some cash.
Just had a look and still showing as £79.99 for me
Gits, just went to order one for a friend as I was too tired last night and they have gone up to £120.
A number of prices have gone up at PX, but look at http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/deals/pay-day-7-day-frame-sale?sort=price-asc&utm_source=web&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Ban17DFS 😉
jamesmio - MemberAny value in swapping the bits off my Boardman 29'er onto one of these..?
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renton - MemberNo.
Not sure on the boardman what it's like. I expect the Parkwood is slacker, boardman always came accross as more XC.
Check out the geometry if I were you. Not as simple as a no I'd say.
Not an on one fan boy, but these are good, fun, light frames. Wish it was an inch or two longer on the top tube though.
n0b0dy0ftheg0at - Member
Gits, just went to order one for a friend as I was too tired last night and they have gone up to £120.
A number of prices have gone up at PX, but look at http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/deals/pay-day-7-day-frame-sale?sort=price-asc&utm_source=web&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Ban17DFS
You bloody legend 😀 That worked.
Did email planet x asking if they would let me have one for £80 but no need to wait for the response. Got in there quick before that price went up too.
Now which headset? The wiggle ones looks the best bet so far.
Building up a cheap bike for a friend by stripping my 29er scandal she has been riding and really likes but I think the Parkwood will be a better fit being slightly longer and a bit more modern with the 68 deg head tube, but will be a 100mm so probably about 69 deg. Still a lot better than the 71 deg of the scandal. If she hates it I can rebuild the Scandal. Just need to find some lighter 29e wheels now, probably crests as she's very light.
Dark Side - Member
Oh well, that have saved me some cash
get onto the on one site quick.
+1. its got similar geo to an inbred, with a slack HA. Wheelbase/ front centre is longer; but the ETT/ Reach is the same as an inbred. which dates from 2002 ish. IIRC. hardly progressive.
Not overly, On-One always advocated long TT's and short stems, so the fact they've not got longer isn't such a surprise. For a 120mm 'bit burlier than an XC frame, not quite hardcore hardtail' it looks about right to me for a 60-70mm stem.
If it was 2deg slacker again and had a 40mm stem then I'd agree, but it doesn't.
[edit] are we talking parkwood or deedarr?
A number of prices have gone up at PX, but look at http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/deals/pay-day-7-day-frame-sale?sort=price-asc&utm_source=web&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Ban17DFS
shows as £120 from that link (and the same link they sent me via email first thing this morning)
They have now increased price at On One, andyl got the original sale price of £80 from that link ~2 hours ago.
are we talking parkwood or deedarr?
I was replying to northward re: deedar. but all of my comments are true re: parkwood too.
They have now increased price at On One, andyl got the original sale price of £80 from that link ~2 hours ago
yes, and I clicked on the same link from an email at about 6.00am this morning and they were £120...
All pretty standard for O-O/PX.
I'm just under 6'5" on a L Parkwood with a 45mm stem and get by just fine
I disagree though (on the Parkwood, never seen a Deedarr in the flesh), it's not an 'enduro' bike by any stretch, it's XC/trail bike.I was replying to northward re: deedar. but all of my comments are true re: parkwood too.
Near enough the same geometry as the Giant Anthem-SX for example.
If the Parkwood was a 150mm travel, 66deg HA, and still only had a 420mm reach in Large, then it'd be too short.
'Winch and Plummet' is all well and good, but I bet in 5-10 years we're back talking about how the bikes of 2016 were too low and slack to climb at any reasonable pace off road and were only good for fireroad climbs.
Like I said earlier, I've no issue with short bikes, it's a matter of taste and that's what some people want. (though, for me, I'm 5'10 and the large Parkwood is still smaller in wheelbase and reach than I'd ever buy... If I could get a hypothetical XL with the seat tube from the medium I'd probably quite like it.)
But they're specifically advertising the Deedar as a long bike, and it's not. That's a different matter entirely.
(I still like their pitch for the Deedar- "It's the trail bike we built because we wanted it for ourselves". Making every other on one trail bike, one they didn't want for themselves. :lol:)
Bigjim @ 6'5" Im not sure how you fit on the Large as Im only 6'1" and find it too cramped!!
Another headset option, lifeline in carbon for £18 http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-1-18-15-integratedheadset-with-carbon-cap/
isn't the issue with the Lifeline it sort of fits but is actually a [i]slightly[/i] different standard (as discussed earlier and also in the London Road thread)?
Well i'm just over 6'1" and find it spot on with a 50mm stem, but can't imagine fitting if i was 6-5 🙂 It is a bit down to taste, and agree with TINAS that it suits the kind of bike it is...and it is a good, fun ride.
EDIT: for headset I used one like this, but it was cheaper than it is now:
renton - MemberBigjim @ 6'5" Im not sure how you fit on the Large as Im only 6'1" and find it too cramped!!
We established a while back that Bigjim is a small 6'5. It's about prominence rather than height above sea level.
Bigjim @ 6'5" Im not sure how you fit on the Large as Im only 6'1" and find it too cramped!!
I do have a layback seatpost so maybe that helps. It's nowhere near as long as my smuggler but it's a fun thing to chuck about the woods.
We established a while back that Bigjim is a small 6'5. It's about prominence rather than height above sea level.
Leave my prominence out of this 😳
Im 6" 2" and use a thomson layback, helps I find.
Arrived just after 8am via Yodel.
I have to say it's lovely. Wish I had bought one for myself now as it's currently sat next to my Solaris frame and and I am feeling a little bit jealous.
Solaris is a 17.5" medium, Parkwood is a 16" small. Length wise there is not that much in it. I would certainly say it's longer than the old Scandal 29er which is good. Building it up for a friend who has been borrowing my Scandal lately and really getting into riding. Was trying to find her an old Soul frame and build it up with my 26" revs and some crest wheels but finding one in budget was proving difficult and she has been enjoying the 29er but finding it just slightly too short and I think the extra slackness of the Parkwood will help her on the steep stuff.
Glad we went for the black and green, going to look good with lime green anodised bits
Mines built now with 100mm forks, seems very good for the money.
Edge Cycles headset went in fine (51.8mm bottom race like the FSA No 42 one). It's got a low top cap rather than those tall conical ones, which is good on the smaller frame as the head tube is a little long.
How are people routing the cables? it's a Small frame so i'm ending up with huge flappy bits of cable at knee height. I'm running them from the gear levers around the other side of the headtube, guess they need to go down the same side of the headtube as the gear/brake levers.
Remove flappy bits by trimming the cable/hoses surely! 🙂 I run mine 1x10 so only have one on each side, on the same side as they come from...i think I always do this if i can because otherwise you end up with a bigger loop to avoid tugging the cable around the headtube
No build pics?
Iz disappoint.
I run mine 1x10 so only have one on each side, on the same side as they come from...i think I always do this if i can because otherwise you end up with a bigger loop to avoid tugging the cable around the headtube
I did mine like this...