https://live.ucimtbworldseries.com/
Currently watching the live timing of practice for the Juniors. As you'd expect, very few have done a top to bottom as i expect they'll be checking different bits out.
Who is actually forking out to watch?
I know people who used to watch and now have zero interest. Myself included.
I got the relevant discovery+ included in our family EE contract for mobile and broadband.
I will be watching but wouldn't if I'd had to stump up the £30 a month.
I love DH and have watched since the early 90s Grundigs coverage when I used to mow my neighbours lawn in exchange for them videoing the eurosport broadcast through their VERY posh and expensive Sky dish (which usually included english and german commentary broadcasting at the same time).
I don't like the changes but I still love the spectacle and I'd really miss it.
I am not paying, and it's gutting tbh, but it's part of our recent cull of streaming services. Got other things that I need to prioritise paying for. I will read the coverage on Pinkbike and maybe look at some riders blog stuff though.
We're paying yes, but i doubt that's much of a shock to anyone.
Not paying.
Tiz is streaming it on their site so I'll use that
Asa Vermette didn't turn up to the timed training session this afternoon?
I'm paying, but admittedly wouldn't if in the UK with no option to opt out of all the other premium sports stuff. The combination of the British football driven subscription sports economy and WB is a total cluster****.
More importantly... where's Loic ?
I was holding that one until later. Elite men have another 45 minutes.*
*And as I'm typing, Loic went through the first split 😉
Edit: he's green most of the way down the track.
I will possibly be watching as I recently got it for 'free' as part of my EE phone contract.
It does now appear to be a lost sport.
No mention anywhere that BK is out, or that Tahnee now rides for Orbea. Its a proper niche sport now unfortunately
The EDR barely got any coverage in the run up last weekend, and a bit of stuff afterwards on Pinkbike but nowhere near historic levels of coverage. It definitely felt like the media is giving them (WBD/UCI/ESO etc) a bit of a cold shoulder
I've been a devoted follower of the coverage of DH for as long as it's been watchable. I'd be up at daft o'clock for races in Australia etc. Consumed everything. Since these changes, it's barely registering for me. I think the teams and sponsors will start feeling the impact shortly. No Fort William round is also a real blow for the UK fans this year.
My prediction is the viewing figures will be so bad, the races will be shown on youtube live in a few rounds time
it appears that enduro isn't even getting a youtube highlights package. there's been some raw edits but no preview and no highlights.
Its a proper niche sport now unfortunately
It's always been a niche sport, now it's a niche sport that's actively trying to alienate its audience.
Who is actually forking out to watch?
I know people who used to watch and now have zero interest. Myself included.
Nope, I may have been accepting of paying £10 month but as I don’t have an interest in any other sport then not a chance.
I'd pay 5 to 10 quid for the equivalent of the old Red Bull coverage. I'm not paying 30+ for a generic sports package when I don't watch any other sport.
I'm also just annoyed at the UCI for handing over so much control of the sport to a giant corporation who has no idea what they've got. The huge changes combined with lack of communication and transparency has been really frustrating. It shows so much disrespect for the manufacturers, teams and riders never mind the armchair experts like myself.
So yeah, if they want to turn DH into a Gladiators style TV show they can keep it.
Having said that, I'll be watching Vital Raw and all the pit bits. I might tune in via Tiz to see what the coverage is like but I'm not planning my weekend around it like I used to.
Healthy Goldstone Vs healthy Pierron will hopefully lead to some epic battles.
I will possibly be watching as I recently got it for 'free' as part of my EE phone contract.
It does now appear to be a lost sport.
No mention anywhere that BK is out, or that Tahnee now rides for Orbea. Its a proper niche sport now unfortunately
Kerr broke his wrist and opposite side hand in a weird crash last weekend. Bucked low whilst steaming along and went over the bars. His teammate, forgot his name, also had an off and is out.
Big season for Tahnee. The top level women (HV) is pushing them and she has her work cut out to match it. New team might help.
yes, it’s mega expensive and rubbish but I’ll just watch and cancel asap. I’d rather pay for the few months subscriptions and cancel something else if needed.
What does "outfit" mean on the start list?
Well Nch means they have their relevant national champs jersey or sleeve. And I assume given the new entry rules there must be a identifier for those racing under a national jersey rather than as part of a registered team
it appears that enduro isn't even getting a youtube highlights package. there's been some raw edits but no preview and no highlights.
Course preview and behind the scenes videos for Poland EDR are on the UCI Mountain Bike World Series Youtube channel. I imagine there'll be a highlights package along shortly.
Q1 qualies for the DH are done.. some big names missing the cut so have to go again. Good showings from Tahnee (2nd) and Hattie (3rd) - back to back belted wins in different disciplines for the latter would be very impressive if she can pull it off!
Q2 qualifying is on YouTube if anyone is bothered
Who is actually forking out to watch?
I don't think anyone is for the qualifying as it's not on TNT/Discovery. As ^ qualifying is on YouTube. The new format, with no protected status and only 15 (w)/30 (m) in the final is looking very interesting, as there are several big names struggling to make the final, quite a few newcomers making their presence felt, and:
Healthy Goldstone Vs healthy Pierron will hopefully lead to some epic battles
Both of these had to battle (second qualifying) to make the final. I'll be watching, but I'm fortunate to have TNT sports with my mobile package.
Q2 qualifying is on YouTube if anyone is bothered
Not too bad. Can't see Q1 (assuming that's what it's called)
Tahnee hasn't moved teams, she's still with FMD Racing as you'd expect given its her family team. They just moved over to Orbea bikes as part of a main sponsor deal.
Some big names haven't made it to finals, and more had to do it through last chance qualies.
Whilst there lots of moaning about the coverage, the racing is better & more competitive than ever.
So juniors were live on YouTube.
Not particularly surprised with the two winners,
Noooooooi. Arrrgghhh.
The conditions are brutal!!!
Nice one...tiz is very laggy.
I'm watching it because I should be working and getting paid to watch DH seems like a better deal than actually working.
Nice to watch on the dodgy link. Reminded me that I would live to watch the rest but the price is way out of my league now.
that said if I was paying I woulld need a no commentary option. That ric fellow is awful, completely kills the pace and kind of stops commentating when they are slightly off the pace.
I don't mind Ric at all. Commentators are useless, even the Giro today
"Anything can happen"
"Any of these could win this"
Well of course!
Rjc spouts sone rubbish but no more than anyone else doing his job
I got the relevant discovery+ included in our family EE contract for mobile and broadband.
Only just realised the same when I stumbled across live footage today. Well that's a bonus I didn't expect, probably worth being with BT/EE for having looked into switching BB provider.
I got the relevant discovery+ included in our family EE contract for mobile and broadband.
Only just realised the same when I stumbled across live footage today. Well that's a bonus I didn't expect, probably worth being with BT/EE for having looked into switching BB provider.
Just watched men’s. Will watch women tomorrow. Can’t find some big names but missed qualifying and write up on pinkbike doesn’t mention some of them.
Reece Wilson?
Laurie Greenland?
assuming this is safe to comment on now? But if not, it was absolutely brilliant racing
That ric fellow
Someone crashes...
Instantly, Ric to Ozzie geezer: "tell us what happened there!"
Reece Wilson?
Laurie Greenland?
Both failed to qualify.
My fantasy team is already in tatters because I bet on the gearboxes.
Its such a shame whats happened as competitive DH is in its golden years really. I thought of paying £30 but some months you'd be getting 1 race! I turned my back on football years ago and since then DH has been the only sport I've cared about
notable was the strong finishes by Maes and Rude. So have they both left enduro now?
I got the relevant discovery+ included in our family EE contract for mobile and broadband.
Only just realised the same when I stumbled across live footage today. Well that's a bonus I didn't expect, probably worth being with BT/EE for having looked into switching BB provider.
Hmm, just had a look as I’ve been with EE since they began and I see I can get TNT sports & Discovery + Premium for £20 month, I “may” suck it up and subscribe till the end of the downhill season on 12 October, will cost £100 for the 5 months of racing then I’ll cancel.
Maes and Rude both did very well. The weather made it quite legally which I think helped them.
Was interesting to see so many riders come out of the traps early post qualifying. Likes of Pierron and Hart going down early due to their qualifying position was interesting as made the result a little more unpredictable
Was a heck of a watch, as always with DH racing... it's a weird sport that i still can't fathom how it's not more popular
As much as people slate the coverage, the price and even the commentary team, i love watching it and it's just epic.
Was gutted that a mate of ours Seb Sumner put it into 24th in Junior qualfying, beating a lot of big big names, but they've lowered the finals from 25 to 20 so he just missed out...
Rude said last week that he will do the EDR World Champs but realistically won't be able to do any other EDR due to his full DH commitment.
I've never seen him as animated as he has been about getting a good placing at Poland!
Never watched any enduro but followed some results on Pinkbike and on here, so I knew of Rude but not seen him ride. He is an absolute beast! He's huge!
A mate saw him way back at a Columbian EWS race and said (in heavy Columbian accent) "Man, he looks like a bull!"
Watched the YouTube highlights of the finals, found them badly edited tbh but better than nowt I suppose. Conditions looked sketchy!
Constantly surprised at the love for Rude all the time. It's like people have completely forgotten or ignored his whole doping scandal. I wouldn't trust him ever again after that.
Neko dropped a disparaging comment on Daprela that got passed the WB overlords. Dh coverage overall was good but totally overshadowed the Enduro
Watched the live event and it's costing me £5.20 a month for the summer.
Look up the countries where the platform is MTBWS TV on https://ucimtbworldseries.com/watch
VPN to one of those fine nations and pay your money. Make sure you are on the VPN whenever you connect to the site, but I watched it yesterday connected with my Ipad and using Airplay to my TV.
I watched it on Tiz this morning and the stream didn't have any hicups. The commentary hasn't improved on last year though.
Went to Krakow for a week and watched it live. Conditions were terrible! We had packed shorts/t-shirts for the whole week....so multiple layers were needed to survive the snow at the top of the gondola.
Public transport to the event was terrible. 1 regular bus route, every 1hr. Standard bus, with the normal locals going about their business. Event finished at 3.40 approx, bus was at 3.20 and 4.20. the que for the bus was large come 4.20, and it took forever to get to the bus stop and away from the bus stop because of traffic. 1 single bus, every hour. Poor.
The site was also free on entry and all the tickets we had bought were good for was access to a 'fanzone' (a gated pen, with a large screen which you could see from outside the area, and a grandstand that you had to go the next level ticket again to make use of), and gondola access which we had chose as our level of ticket.
The paddock was poor also. It was split into about 3x locations and 95% of the teams had the tents closed up so you couldn't see anything because of the weather.
The q1 and q2 thing is great....people going for it more, as no protection etc
Ran into bruni couple of times on saturday as he took his ebike up among the crowd making their way down the track, to check a few lines
Atmosphere for the final 10 riders was electric at the finish, and glad an Irish man managed to nearly best them all! Bruni is too good! Was convinced it would be him or Pierron
Last season I could watch the DH via Discovery+, but now its behind the TNT paywall so I cant. It's a shame as last year watched with the child how was semi interested. I've not seen a single race run, I saw who won on Insta and now dont feel the need to watch the highlights.
This whole TNT thing is killing cycle for me, usually I'd watch the Giro highlights on ITV4 but that's gone, I've tried the YT highlights but they're too short, too light on any detail and not a fan of the commenter.
I can really see myself not watching any DH this season now and will enjoy one last TDF via ITV4 before I probably dont watch that again.
I watched it on the new version of the stay live app , in NZ so no need for VPN .
Watched the replay because of the time difference, the big issue being right below the link for the replay was the links for the winning run replays which told you who had won , very annoying. I seem to remember red bull doing something similar once so it's not just WBD .
Ric's understanding of the splits and what they mean needs some work but I think he's getting better. Neko seems a good bet as some one who could do a good job on Co comms .
I'm sure he's a lovely bloke and all but I don't want Ric commentating. It's a trope or whatever these days but he's no (Rob) Warner and he's ruining the broadcast. AND that's only on the YT hatchet job not the full broadcast - there's no way I could put up with that for hours.
From what I've seen on the YT, there's no way I'd spend £30 for a years subs to the DH, let alone £30/month. They're in cloud cuckoo land if they think they're adding anything to the sport with this treatment. No bike riding viewers = no industry support. Dropping ratings = no interested external sponsors.
This is not "build it and they will come" territory.
Shame as the racing is great.
Oh and Sunday showed why 30 in finals isn't enough. F*** the TV - not having multiple World Champs in the final sucked bigtime.
I saw Thibaut Daprela getting interviewed on WynTV. So what the **** happened there? Was the whole thing just a big misunderstanding and he's actually a totally safe guy for women to be alone with?
Or is it just the case that it's been a long time (a whole two years) and everyone has just moved on?
Maybe it's just me but I don't think this is the kind of thing the mountain biking community should just move on from. There should be some kind of explanation as to why he's getting interviewed as if nothing ever happened. Even if that explanation is that nothing happened.
I watched it on Tiz this morning and the stream didn't have any hicups. The commentary hasn't improved on last year though.
Tiz didn't have the replay up Sunday night so I succumbed to the YT highlights.
Like Speeder above, even 10 minutes or so of Ric's inane babbling over his co-commentators was starting to trigger me though. He's like the computer commentary on a football or F1 game - all pre-recorded little soundbites delivered in a mock-excited tone. No nuance or genuine insight at all.
Looked like a great race though, from what I could tell.
Bigup Tahnee for that super-confident run - fingers crossed for a strong season from her.
Tiz didn't have the replay up until monday, so avoided the media until then.
Good race, I'm glad that protected riders are gone, there were a few "new" names in the final - ones I may have heard of but wouldn't recognise and certainly wouldnt have put in as top 30.
Just because someone is a former race winner or even former world champ doesnt mean they deserve to be in the finals if they can't show up on the (qualifying) day and beat these new up and comers in two attempts.
Didnt like that despite the reduced field we still get a restricted/shortened view of the earlier riders - cant it be 3 minute gaps for finals for everyone?
One it does them a disservice,
two it means when we do get to see the first persons (nearly) full run we dont know if they are doing well or not
and three, its really jarring jumping about and having to watch the clock. when you watch every rider through the same sequence of 20? camera frames, you know whats coming and it mentally flows.
What's the story of the guy on course for Hattie's run? Hattie had already crashed higher up so if she had managed to hit him deliberately would she have got a re-run?
I don't know what to think about Daprela. Ruining a career over unproven allegations I don't agree with, but on the other hand there is likely more than we public know - if a sponsor doesnt want to associate themselves with bad rumours that is entirely up to them.
What's the story of the guy on course for Hattie's run? Hattie had already crashed higher up so if she had managed to hit him deliberately would she have got a re-run?
Hatties issue is that she's honestly THAT nice that hitting someone to get a re-run would never ever enter her mind, not for a second. She'd rather crash than hit someone. Personally, yeah she should have hit him 😀
@BruceWee the glaring fact that the French DH champion couldn't get a ride with a French team or one with any female riders speaks volumes, as does Neko Mulally's "won't take no for an answer" commentary snippet.
Some people won't ever let this go, some already have.
Maybe it's just me but I don't think this is the kind of thing the mountain biking community should just move on from. There should be some kind of explanation as to why he's getting interviewed
Do you think the MTB media have a meeting where they decide what their policy on alleged sex offenders is?
Do you really think everyone has "moved on" and TD's career is back to normal?
Do you expect Wyn to start talking about the allegations (with zero legal training) to justify his editorial policy?
Your expectations don't really align with the way things work in the real world, and I'm sure your frustration reflects that experienced by the alleged victim. Nobody is happy about this, but there's no point getting all righteous about it on the internet.
Your expectations don't really align with the way things work in the real world,
I agree. Hence the fact a sex offender is currently the President of the USA as one example of thousands upon thousands of injustices.
However, not talking about it, as I assume you'd rather I and others don't given the tone of your post, doesn't really help in changing how the 'real world' works now, does it?
However, not talking about it, as I assume you'd rather I and others don't given the tone of your post, doesn't really help in changing how the 'real world' works now, does it?
Well I'm quite happy for everyone to know TD is an alleged sex offender (and they already do), and I'd prefer not to see him racing at all. Him not making the podium was the only benefit of 3-person podums so far.
I'm just trying to help you understand why the MTB media and industry can't behave exactly the way you'd like them to. Not sure why I thought that was a good idea TBH.
I'm just trying to help you understand why the MTB media and industry can't behave exactly the way you'd like them to. Not sure why I thought that was a good idea TBH.
I'm not sure what is so difficult about just not interviewing him?
If you can't ask the question (and given his family is supposedly very rich I can understand why none of the mtb media could even consider asking him the question) then don't give him (or his sponsors) any oxygen.
I had no idea nor knowledge of the accusations against TD 😮
I had no idea nor knowledge of the accusations against TD 😮
The main thing that gives me thoughts of "mmmmm maybe" is looking at his Insta account. You look at Loris's, Brunis, JAcksons, Williams, etc, all their posts have a tonne of other riders commenting..
Daprelas is a wasteland ....
Maybe this has changed since i last looked about 6 months ago, but his was just tumbleweed.
I had no idea nor knowledge of the accusations against TD 😮
The main thing that gives me thoughts of "mmmmm maybe" is looking at his Insta account. You look at Loris's, Brunis, JAcksons, Williams, etc, all their posts have a tonne of other riders commenting..
Daprelas is a wasteland ....
Maybe this has changed since i last looked about 6 months ago, but his was just tumbleweed.
Ahh, I don’t have any social media apart from on this site….but on googling I now see the issue with TD leaving canyon collective team was reported on by stw and others last year……
Christ……..that’s ****ing hellish……
That's not TD, the enduro community has had their own problems.