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i have a problem with my bike since day 1 really...

i thought it was like this untill it still hasnt become better.

i have encluded a video to show you the annoying noise and to help me with what i have to do.

i have already...

cleaned the brakes, resurfaced the pads to new, reset the caliper position with the caliper loose and tighten bolts whilst holding the brake lever fully down.

anything else you guys have for me to try?
o brakes are hayes stroker ryde btw with 203mm discs

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thanks nick


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:43 pm
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It's upside down. ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:45 pm
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New pads will sort that I suspect, however some discs seem to squeal no matter what. Could try getting the mounts faced.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:48 pm
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...never mind the bike ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:48 pm
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I know, I wasn't going to say anything as I thought it would be rude.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:49 pm
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There's your problem. Hayes Strokers. Mate has the Trails and they always make horrible graunching sound, plus they are very grabby


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:49 pm
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try centralising pads the hope way - there is a vid on the site - basically use the slotted mounts to get the caliper central on the disc then centralise the pads in the caliper.

Other things to try

What did you clean the brakes with? Some things leave contaminents. Sand down both the disc and the pad and re bed in

Copaslip on the back of the pads

File a tiny chamfer on the leading edge of the pads

New pads


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:51 pm
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I'd be more worried about the chain oil you'll sprayed all over the walls.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:51 pm
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203 on the rear is the problem! Why do you feel the need to have such a big rotor. Does the front do the same?

I had Hayes Strokers on my Trance and decided to put 203 on the back, after 10 minutes of riding it was off and a 185 put on there instead.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:53 pm
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Huba huba. Lets see more of the blond. Oh and your brakes or shifters will have scratched your floor. What TJ said.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:55 pm
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why did u take the 203mm off the rear, i find it great. it made the same noise with the 185mm so i thought i would change the disc and try it but its the same...

not really wanting to buy new pads as they are only new. lol

the blonde is all yours she moaning about a certain bike in the living room ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:00 pm
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Nick,
The bloody noise of them when they get ever so slightly bent! DROVE ME BONKERS!!!

Give the disc a good clean with brake cleaner then I know this sounds really stupid but once clean rub your fingers over the disc brake surface to supply just a little natural grease. It worked for me.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:03 pm
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Moves bike from living room and shaves balls ready ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:05 pm
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Speaking of discs have you tried switching the rotors around, front on the back and so on? Or try another disc to see what happens.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:08 pm
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Just buy some shimano brakes and sell whatever they are job done.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:19 pm
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I had something very similar to this. Tried everything and everyone sorting the brakes out, and it turned out that the cones in my rear hub needed tightening. The wheel kept leaning on the disc under strain cos they were loose. Tightened cones (thanks EBC) and problem solved.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:32 pm
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thought this was going to be one of those you tube vids were more is going on in the background when the sweet young thing walked in, was expecting the door to open again and a loud screem are well off to clean the knucles ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:52 pm
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I hope Maartje was nice to Mr Gherkin in hospital.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 6:59 pm
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The pistons on my Hayes get really sticky really fast, if you can be bothered cleaning and greasing them with DOT grease they feel and sound great for about three rides, then you need to repeat.

Also, the stock pads take AGES to bed in, and until they do they scream like banshees.

Am almost at the end of my tether with mine, far too much faff, and don't get me started on how quickly and how noisily the rotors seem to bend...

(oh, and in general I never pull the levers when the bike is upside down, it can introduce air into the hoses really easily)


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:04 pm
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Did your misses enjoy her dump?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:09 pm
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dont think it's anything to do with size, my juice 5 160mm rear brake does the same occasionally.. i haven't found a recipe against it, i just ignore it and sometimes the squeal goes away.. oh well.

on a different note, my detective skills tell me that doesn't look like your typical british appartment at all, and i could swear the girl in the background was saying something that sounded like german? may i ask where you're from, nick christy ๐Ÿ™‚ ?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:21 pm
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[b]Innsbruck[/b]


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:24 pm
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Wow, a glimpse of blonde hair really brings out the stalkers doesn't it?

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Posted : 01/07/2010 7:49 pm
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ja, ich komme aus Innsbruck ๐Ÿ˜‰

im really not sure what to do. the noise drives me crazy!!!

i ride alot in the mountains and just cant put up with the noise anymore. i think i take it to a shop and see what they have to do or say!

what are these cones your talking about?? sorry

nick


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:20 pm
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can i clean my rotors with vodka?? dont have brake cleaner ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:38 pm
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Nothing wrong with that.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:42 pm
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Copper slip on the back of the pads . . . job done!


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:03 pm
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I wish my rear brake was as quiet as that! My hope mini didn't squeal, it screeched till you could feel it in your bones. Tried everything, got mounts faced, brake serviced e.t.c. Then i noticed drop-outs weren't straight.

Get shop to check drop-outs are aligned, they should have the two tools required to do this, then face your mounts, then copper slip on back of pads.

Brake squeal is probably the most random thing on a bike, pot luck really. So if it still squeals after this, just get some new brakes and get the shop to fit them and be responsible/liable for any problems.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:08 pm
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right i just rotated the brakes so the 'squeeling' brakes now on the front and the good front ones now on the rear. but to no avail. still squeaking!!!

**** sake!!

BIKE SHOP TIME!

I took the bike to the shop i bought it from and they say that i need new pads and disc. but it cant be this as i have swapped the brakes front to rear so surly that eliminates this! the discs are new as is the bike!!!!


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:22 pm
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C. o. p. p. e. r. s. l. i. p! It works - trust me!


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:24 pm
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copper grease alternatives in the house? whilst shops are shut for me to try?

vasaline?
lipseal?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:26 pm
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mammadirt if ure right i will paypal u 10euro!


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:26 pm
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Nooooo, step away from the vaseline ๐Ÿ˜‰ . I'm pretty sure the copper slip will do the trick - never had a problem with squealing brakes (unless it's wet) and I always coat the back of new pads before fitting them. Just double check too that there is no paint on the back of the disc mount on your frame. Never needed to have frame mounts faced but I've just built up a new bike and had to scrape an uneven layer of powercoat off the back of the frame mount.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 9:31 pm
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ok... will report back to you tommorow


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:26 pm
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Did your wife just go for a poo?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:29 pm
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I've just built up a new bike
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Posted : 01/07/2010 10:31 pm
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Dirt, you need some dirt. I know it's probably illegal in Innsbruck, but everything in that vid looks sparkly clean. I deliberately haven't mentioned your goodlady (though I suspect she's actually your cleaner?)


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:37 pm
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mamadirt.
copperslip just it the indentation on the back of the pads?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:44 pm
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All over the back of the pads (just make sure none gets on the front).

Tails - after the last few weeks I've had building/stripping, buying and selling, all in the name of something slightly less nickable than the Slopestyle for going to work/the shops, I'm keeping quiet about this one for the mo'. Looks fantastic though - I'd like to think I'm finally sorted (and so does my credit card ๐Ÿ™„ ). Watch . . . this . . . space . . .


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:51 pm
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thanks


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:54 pm
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...building...something slightly less nickable
.... Looks fantastic though

Don't make it look [i]too[/i] fantastic if you don't want it nicked.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:55 pm
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I've never had squealy brakes, and I've never used copperslip either.. so there goes that theory ๐Ÿ™‚

Do not know about the squealing but DO NOT USE CAR BRAKE CLEANER! It leaves an oily residue and will require new pads. Trust me, I know - I've done it twice or three times... D'oh.

Use car CLUTCH cleaner, available from Halfords. Does not leave a residue.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 10:58 pm
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I've watched that dam video five times now. I keep expecting your mrs to come back out and start dancing in her underwear. What is wrong with me. It's just a woman. No it's not. She's wants me and she's going to dance for me. Off for another look.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 11:00 pm
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I've seen the extended version, there is another camera in the toilet....


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 11:03 pm
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Just to get this back on track...

I had something very similar to this. Tried everything and everyone sorting the brakes out, and it turned out that the cones in my rear hub needed tightening. The wheel kept leaning on the disc under strain cos they were loose. Tightened cones (thanks EBC) and problem solved.

What Flying Ox said... had same problem on my hardtail. Is there a bit of play in the rear wheel bearings?


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 11:07 pm
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