[Closed] Panniers and stuff

I've just bought a rack and panniers having done a bit of research. I bought a Tortec Expedition rack and Altura Dryline 56 panniers for my few days in France but I was tempted to go for a steel rack as they're far tougher - maybe you should consider getting one but they are a bit more cash.

A good selection here:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/category-Rear-Rack-254.htm

DHB waterproof panniers look good for the money, if a little small

altura dryline stuff is good and pretty cheap.

i bought a tortek aluminium rack but wouldn't want to put too much weight on it, if you can afford it get a tubus steel rack, they really are awesome (wiggle sell them).

Tubus are superbly made. You can see why they are so expensive. I have broken tortek racks carrying camping gear offroad

thanks - I'll have a look at these.

Do all racks attach to the bolts on the seat stays (coz my bike doesn't have them!)

Tubus have a variety of fittings and mountings. the usual thing is to use P clips if you do't have the braze ons

i used orkney 56 panniers - not a million miles from dry lines

when i toured nz .. 2 of us with the same panniers , no issues.

also used a madison stainless steel rack which again looked like a copy of tubus for about half the price at rrp again zero issues , and i also came across a fair few riders using the tubus copys while in nz. again with no issue

that was for on road and off road touring on a cyclo cross bike

I like the Drylines. I've used them on- and off-road. I particularly like the double-skin as it's then possible to store wet stuff apart from dry stuff. The ones with an external pocket are handy as it saves you fishing through a big bag for stuff like snacks.

I'm not too fussed about racks. I reckon most decent makes will stand up to normal loads. Make sure whatever you buy will clear disk calipers (if appropriate). The Topeak Super Tourist DX - Disk should work in 99% of cases.

Consider a handlebar bag too. It spreads the load a bit and is great for keeping map, guidebook, camera etc. handy. Alternatively, strap the tent to the handlebars to get some weight forward. (Like this...)

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You'll find that rear wheel traction is immense with a laden rack. You'll be able to pedal up loose/muddy stuff you might otherwise spin out on.

Also - think about clothing. Do you want to cycle in wet gear? A pair of waterprrof shorts might make a huge difference in comfort terms.

that's gret druidh, thanks. We only decided this today so we will keep asking you questions for the foreseeable future!

i wouldnt go for dhb stuff,

bought there panniers and the seems/stitching split,
fine after i did sewing repairs but not recommended.
but are very cheap and are large and waterproof,

I did a long off road tour in the US with a bob trailer, I probably carried too much gear, but you ride a couple of days and not see a soul. I've toured with panniers but prefer the trailer. Ortlieb panniers are well worth the premium.

we used one trailer last year for 3 of us, as mcmooter better than panniers and for us cheaper.

fwiw if i was paying full retail id buy ortliebs..... but my alturas did get alot of admiration from people sporting ortliebs....

id also buy 4 smaller panniers as oppose to buying 2 larger ones ....

i know you told me that druidh but you know learn by your own mistakes !

I have to say I disagree with Druidh about racks. I have broken tortec (twice) and Blackburn racks using them for camping kit offroad. The tubus is also far more stable. He is right about distributing weight around the bike if you can. Tent poles along a frame tube is a good one for example

I did a long off road tour in the US with a bob trailer, I probably carried too much gear, but you ride a couple of days and not see a soul. I've toured with panniers but prefer the trailer. Ortlieb panniers are well worth the premium.

Interesting, I was speaking to someone at the weekend who has done the camino a couple of times and he suggested a trailer over panniers also. He said riding off-road with panniers was tricky as they raise the centre-of-gravity more than a trailer.

Any trailer suggestions then?!!

Having done a bit of road-touring years ago, carrying too much stuff of course, I wanted to try some proper off-road fun later this year with the Cairngorm loop. Having read a bit about trailers and talked to a few people who used the Bob Yak I want to give one a go, and intend to buy an Extrawheel in a few weeks (www.extrawheel.com/). The best price I have found is as Cyclesense in Tadcaster (www.cyclesense.co.uk). Alternatives are the Cargo Trailer from the Edinburgh Co-op, who also currently have the Weber Monoporter slightly discounted. Please do post your experiences

edingburgh cycles revolution trailer, cheaper and works hopefully they have a better bag