Recent research has shown that bikes painted orange are actually dangerous, you are more likely to get a basic wallet fracture with one of those, the long term effects are 29%apr and probable exclusion form normal life. Stick to shoppers. Foldable ones are best.
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I used to own a nice DH-oriented bike. Shame there were sod all places in the UK to ride it properly.
coffeeking I don't have this problem ๐
I got one of those Supremes. Hope to use it this week ๐
You should try the SDW coffeeking, well rad.
Transition. Just look at it!
juan, I know, you lucky sod!
looking like the transition has it... In yellow ๐
There's a reduced price new TR450 on southern downhill i think...
coffeeking - MemberI used to own a nice DH-oriented bike. Shame there were sod all places in the UK to ride it properly.
See those hills outside? You can ride down them. Hence the term "down" "hill".
Or are you saying that there was nowhere in the UK challenging enough for you on a DH bike, in which case you should turn pro and make a mint from riding DH for a living on the world circuit, you would be the winner.
Well that is where you're all wrong. I give you two bike with amazing design and colours. And what do you raise me with?
Black or white bike BLACK or WHITE... Probably the two dullest colour a bike could be... tututu, some people really need to get some fashion sense ๐
See those hills outside? You can ride down them. Hence the term "down" "hill".
Not the same on local hills, just nothing entertaining about it - I never felt that I was close to "the edge" with stacks of travel. I just got bored of it TBH.
Or are you saying that there was nowhere in the UK challenging enough for you on a DH bike, in which case you should turn pro and make a mint from riding DH for a living on the world circuit, you would be the winner.
Nowhere within easy reach, no. I'm sure some of the scottish man-made routes are fairly hardcore but they take too long to get to when you live in NW england and natural trails are hell on a long travel bike as you need to get up the hills first to get back down them. I'm actually fairly sure I could have done quite a good job at competition level DH until they started introducing bigger and bigger doubles jumps (I'm not a fan of doubles, I'm happy with drops and natural trail jumps, but many did suggest it at the time) when I ditched the long travel, on my first runs on a marked DH route in Les Arcs I was making times in the top 1/3-1/2 region when compared against the actual competition day times. Coming home to the UK left about 3 trail centres with anything remotely close in enjoyment stakes and they were impossible to get to and very short run times. I was wholely deflated, this is when I left the sport for a few years (6 or so) and eventually came back more XC oriented.
I must be the only person who finds full sus bikes to look really ugly and clunky. Can't beat the smooth lines of a hardtail!
Commencal for me.
+1 for the foes...............
I lifted one of those Mondrakers up at the bike shop the other week and was blown away by how light it was.
Felt like it might be less than 35lb.
I love Kona's big bikes.
I think the transition is heavier and hopefully therefore longer lasting and stronger than the 35lb race only downhill bikes (session 88 for example that dent very easily, and if the mondraker is that light no doubt the same applies) - v10s build up around 40lbs I think and they are pretty indestructable
did I mention I just got a job in geneva, hence the desire for a proper downhill bike, there lifts there in the summer ๐
_tom_ - Member
I must be the only person who finds full sus bikes to look really ugly and clunky. Can't beat the smooth lines of a hardtail!
no you're not...there's not many dh bikes that don't look ugly!
+1 for the Superco, my dream bike, along with Empire AP1.
no you're not...there's not many dh bikes that don't look ugly!
If you buy a bike because it looks 'cool' you're a tart. Bike are meant to be ridden. And for DH bikes it's function before form in any cases.
juan +1 - I won't be looking at my DH bike when it's pointing down, eyes on the trail!!
It's the grin at the bottom that matters, and it can be as ugly as it likes ๐
Hope to get out on my new Session 8 on Sunday.
I have to admit, although the empire is not as "funky" as my two pictures, there is something fascinating about this bike.
That Empire gives me the horn.
I'm in the 'have 1000m DH trail out side my house but no time to ride' category ๐
dasnut - Member
looking like the transition has it...
Doesn't have it yet, but would definitely get it. ๐
Juan
I ws helping Roberto Vernassa build two brand new supremes, an orange and a green one.... I want a DH bike!!!!
Nasher the prices are on the pictures. The kona is bargainastic (price is on the pic) and it might even be your size ๐
Woody what is that and what is it like to ride?
It's a Trek Pro Issue DH from '99. I've only ridden it for about an hour 10 years ago as I couldn't get a rear brake to fit and I just never got around to building it up properly. Apparently it was designed for a Hope C2 with a specific adaptor !
It felt very plush - 8" rear travel and originally had a Boxer 125mm which was the bollox at the time.
It's definitely indestructable (swing arm alone must weigh 10-12 lbs). One day I'll rebuild 'The Ugliest Bike in the World' ๐
Some reviews [url= http://www.mtbr.com/mfr/trek/bike-full/1999-pro-issue-dh/PRD_349965_95crx.aspx ]HERE ON MTBR[/url]
Ooooh ! Just seen on MTBR that a Hayes 8" fits - might build it up for a laugh as I think I've still got the original XTR chainset and MRP? chaincage ๐
Woody that's excellent be worth finding a brake and then taking it to CwnCarn and doing the uplift day. ๐
LOL I'm sure the frame could handle it - not so sure about the rider ๐
Come on woody do it. ๐
Juan, are the Commencal and Kona in Alticoop right now?
What ENDURO ๐ bikes do they have in there right now?
juan
you coming over to San Romolo monday?
Juan agree we need to see the Trek on the DH trails would love to see how it handles next to newer kit.
original XTR chainset and MRP? chaincage
[i]chaincage[/i]... s****
Ive also got a trek dh pro in the shed, from 97 ithink, its a beast, a real aggro type of ride, that will go over anything, it has 6,7 or 8 inches of travel, i used mine last about 5 yrs ago at chicksands and its fantastic, im gonna put some lyrics on it and see how it rides, when they came out 6inch forks were dh forks, so i think lyrics will be cool.
Ash enduro bike right now available:
Meta 5.5 or meta 6, Scott genius or randsom, Kona cadabra or kona dawg.
Nasher not sure yet. I might just come at the end of your day to have a chat with you though. If not I'll call the italy number (is it a landline?)
Juan
Forge
I'll let you know if I get round to building it up again.
My number is a mobile.
you can call me on skype
forgetmename
From what you've said I'm even more tempted to build it up. I've got some Nixons @140mm which should be spot on + Hayes 200mm discs. What are you using for a rear brake ?
Thanks Woody
Ive still got original hayes, and an old hope system, but i cant find the adapter for that at the mo, i used to love the way the bike made you want to really hit things fast, i would like to take it to the alps for a proper ride 1 day. I called the bike "the gate". I had 1 of my worst offs on it at wendover in 97, i had a bruise the same shape as the frame all over my tummy and chest, and a black cock and balls too, funnily enough a fond memory! Im going to build it up asap now, il post a picture when done.
Im going to build it up asap now, il post a picture when done.
Excellent ๐
It sounds like some older 200mm Boxxers with softer than normal springs would be good on it. They can be picked up for a song too as every kid on the block won't be seen with them on his bike this year.
Post pics!
A lot of sag might work with those. I had Junior T's @ 150mm on them and they seemed about right. I very nearly bought some ZZZYZX's on fleabay a couple of years ago with this frame in mind which would have looked wicked 8)
I am tempted to say I should organise a STW Malaga DH trip. Come ride the sun!
flamejob that would be cool ๐



















