[Closed] One for the CAD machinists, why doesn't someone make.....

Because no one uses the plastic ones so its unlikely anyone would pay for posh ones.

Also if I remember correctly fitting and removing the plastic ones is a proper ball ache, you can twist with your leg to unclip far easier than you can twist with your hand.

You don't have a specific local trip / town bike?

Get out!

like these... http://www.bicyclehero.com/gb/fly-pedals-original-universal-clipless-platform-adapters.html?gclid=CLqgvIGY-M8CFdgaGwodk4QGzQ

or these - [url= https://www.flypedals.com ]https://www.flypedals.com[/url]

Because no one uses the plastic ones so its unlikely anyone would pay for posh ones.

Has anyone tried those Fly pedal things? Could be alright if they are easy enough to fit/remove.

Because it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist...

Pretty sure I saw a product that did this reviewed in MBUK back in the 90's. Nothing is new.

Shimano pd-t 8000 does this on my touring bike already.

Because it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist...

I think it's a fair point actually. The problem doesn't exist if you ride flats or have a bike with flats on specifically for popping to the shops or rides with the kids.

Some people though only have one bike and if they like riding spd's then the only way to have a decent platform for non bike shoes is to change pedals at the moment. Which is a ball ache if you just want to hop on the bike to go and pick up a Chinese!
Pedals with spd one side and flat the other are ok but apparently not good for proper off roading so don't solve the problem.

My hardtail has flats on because I use it for the above reasons but i'd like it to have spd's like my other bikes, but then I'd have to wear bike shoes every time I ride it whereas now I just have to keep swapping pedals about.

Those fly ones look like a decent option though if they clip in and out ok.

I've ridden well past our local takeaway in normal shoes with spd pedals, its not that hard.

The Fly Pedals II look reasonable, depending how easy they are to fit/remove:

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I've ridden well past our local takeaway in normal shoes with spd pedals, its not that hard.

So have I, and I don't think it's that great. Especially if you decide to jump off the odd kerb or ride down some steps and your shoes are a bit wet!!

A decent platform adapter, with good grip not the plastic crap ones, could be a decent idea.

Personally I think these look great but they're never in stock and pricey. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/funn-mamba-one-side-clip-mtb-pedals/rp-prod122715

The problem is the flat part will weigh enough that it will always be on the bottom, and as someone with shimano dual side (where they flat isnt as big as these adaptors) I can confirm its a pain trying to get on the flat side even on those.

Removing the bloody things is more hassle than swapping pedals

Removing the bloody things is more hassle than swapping pedals

i reckon a machined in 17mm bolt head that you could put a socket onto would make removal easy.

i reckon a machined in 17mm bolt head that you could put a socket onto would make removal easy.

Or the 6mm Hex key hole they have ?

If anyone fancies machining a batch of these, I'd definitely buy some. A proper solution though with (replacable) pins.

If anyone fancies machining a batch of these, I'd definitely buy some. A proper solution though with (replacable) pins.

Even if they were £100 for the pair?

Why would you want replaceable pins? You dont want a lot of grip and shouldnt take these things offroad as you will end up unclipping the platform.

I suspect the root of the problem (despite some products existing) is that fitting and removing a platform like that is more hassle than putting a pair of SPD shoes on.

more hassle than putting a pair of SPD shoes on

Exactly. Just get some skate style shoes with spd mount in them then just wear those shoes to go and get your chinese.
And due to the more efficient riding platform you will be back quicker keeping the meal at a better temperature.

Why would you want replaceable pins? You dont want a lot of grip and shouldnt take these things offroad as you will end up unclipping the platform.

No, the design would allow for a complete lock on function, so you could take them offroad. Replaceable pins let me change pin height and location to suit me.

Even if they were £100 for the pair?

Shimano M424/M545 Pedals.....

Or have I misunderstood the problem/issue/question??

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cokie - Member

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No, the design would allow for a complete lock on function, so you could take them offroad. Replaceable pins let me change pin height and location to suit me.

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they'd have to be closer to those Funn pedals in pricing. I don't see why they'd be £100.

Apart from missing the obvious that you want a quality piece of custom machining, with additional features over the basic ones currently on the market, but for the same price as the basic ones... did you miss my point that they would be aweful to ride as you could never get your feet on them without a lot of faffing about and looking at your pedals, so kind of negating the benefit offroad.

Wouldn't these "float" like shoes do? I'm sure that would feel odd

Could you potentially unclip them if the pins were too good at sticking to your feet?

cokie - No, they'd have to be closer to those Funn pedals in pricing. I don't see why they'd be £100.

You can get the Funn Mamba pedals at Probikeshop http://www.probikeshop.com/en/gb/funn-mamba-one-side-clip-pedals/106075.html but they're 100€!!

Apart from missing the obvious that you want a quality piece of custom machining, with additional features over the basic ones currently on the market, but for the same price as the basic ones... did you miss my point that they would be aweful to ride as you could never get your feet on them without a lot of faffing about and looking at your pedals, so kind of negating the benefit offroad.

The Funn is a high quality product with far more complexity, material & branding behind it, and it's only £65. Machining a flat piece of aluminum and adding some threaded holes and a clamp isn't going to cost more.. Just because X brand charge £65, doesn't mean that another brand can't produce a better product for less. I could quite happily produce what I want for about £40 a set as a one off through some friends.

Would they be awful? The pedals would be like a road pedal in the sense of them rotating, and you get used to it. I won't be taking my feet off the pedals much anyway, but it's nice to be able to dap or disconnect from the bike quickly when required. You could always negate the rotating issue with a weight on the other side of the pedal.

Sounds like you have found your niche market then .

Get manufacturing 🙂

Sounds like I'm the only one that want's these awful things, trail rat! 😆

As a one off through mates isn't really a good representation of actual cost but if you can do it for 40, go for it. seems you are pretty much the only person interested in them.

I never said it was Podge.. I wasn't arguing that I'm going to make this a mass production & profitable venture. Just that I could get it done for a reasonable (to me) cost.

There just isn't the demand beyond lunatics like me.

cokie - No, they'd have to be closer to those Funn pedals in pricing. I don't see why they'd be £100.

cokie - I never said it was Podge.. I wasn't arguing that I'm going to make this a mass production & profitable venture. Just that I could get it done for a reasonable (to me) cost.

£40 mates rates could easily be more than £100 by the time they are on display at your LBS

Raw product at mates rates = £40
+ 10% machinist profit = 44
+ £5 shipping to anodiser / painter = 49
+ £5 Surface finishing = 54
+ 50% Branding profit = 81
+ £5 Shipping to distributor = 86
+ 10% distributor mark up = 94.6
+ £5 shipping to LBS = 99.6
+ 10% LBS profit = 109.56
+ 20% VAT = 131.47

OK those are very rough numbers and if you're going for mass produced you've got bulk purchasing power and economy of scale and you could do them at cost but that list doesn't include branding, advertising, your time.

Makes the linked stuff up there look like a bargain.

Eh? What? Me's confuzzled. Why would you not just put your cycling shoes on to ride into town? Especially as most MTB shoes now are basically a pair of trainers, and even the ones that are more like a 'cycling shoe' are still perfectly walkable in.

You might already have a pair of shoes on and just want to jump on the bike, with these fitted you could, then take them off when you go out proper riding. Or if I ride to the park with my son to have a kick about, I don't want to play footy with SPD shoes on, there are lots of reasons but I have multiple bikes and one has flat pedals so it doesn't bother me. If you only have one bike it could be a good idea.

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