The Inbred frames are cheap at the minute, so I totted up a few prices to see what it would cost to build one. I used the 26" version with their chromoly 26" rigid forks, and added a fair amount of cheapo On One components. I have some 26" wheels I could use, but I added a few more expensive bits - namely Stooge bars, BB7 brakes and an SLX 1x11 drivetrain from Merlin. It came to just under £700. However, earlier today I was in a bike shop and saw a Specialized Rockhopper Comp 29er for £600 rrp. I know building bikes from scratch is a more expensive way of doing things, but I'm surprised the Inbred, with it's bargain basement frame price, would probably end up costing more than the Specialized.
This would be my first real mountain bike, so I don't really know what sort of bike would suit me. Are the Inbreds any good, or would it be wiser to buy a discounted complete bike, or build up a more expensive frame (such as a Singular Swift, Stooge or Ragley - to a name a few diverse ones!)?
If you need pretty much all of the parts it's far cheaper almost always to just buy a complete bike.
Things like the Inbred or Parkwood frames only really work as an actual cheap build if you're using existing forks, wheels etc even if the drivetrain ends up new.
If you're looking to get some 'bang for your buck' as a newbie, I would start [url= http://www.paulscycles.co.uk ]Here [/url]...
If you don't have some kit to transfer onto a new frame plus a clearer idea of what you maybe want to do with the finished bike, then wait a while before wading into a self build...
I would set yourself (and stick to) an affordable budget, look at the prices for "older stock" (Year model 2016 or earlier) and opt for a decent [i]known brand[/i] HT.
errr, the rockhopper you're looking at doesn't come with SLX transmission, BB7 brakes or Stooge bars though does it.
There are much much cheaper ways to build that inbred up which would include wheels and you'll be in the ballpark of the rockhopper on price.
Are the Inbreds any good, or would it be wiser to buy a discounted complete bike, or build up a more expensive frame (such as a Singular Swift, Stooge or Ragley - to a name a few diverse ones!)?
I'd stick to cheap builds, either bought complete or built up yourself rather than splashing out on an expensive frame. Also have a think realistically what your riding is going to be - whether you might end up wanting something which is more suited to pointing down steep rocky terrain or if all day xc epics are more your cup of tea.
EDIT - the inbred will be cheaper before the end of the year, at some point.
That charge cooker on the Paul's website cookeaa posted is a cracking bike for the money! That would see you good for most things and be more capable than the inbred with suspension forks. Even the Tektro brakes are adequate - I think they're rebadged older style Shimano, I have some which are OK and take Shimano pattern pads
Voodoo ay Halfords
I would also be looking at Pauls or Voodoo for budget biking, actually the boardman pro (ht 29) is good at the moment
I'd consider 2nd hand. Take a friend who knows bikes along to look (here, Pinkbike, Ebay etc)
I'd be looking at any bike without the orrible on-one fork
or buy a nice used bike with nice components and upgrade as you have a chance to see what works and what doesn't. I did this with my first MTB after returning, a On One Inbred. Used it for 3 years before "upgrading" but it's still in the attic, nice bike..........
The on-one works as it'll be built with the components you like and so the £700 figure is what you'll spend. Spend £699 on a lesser specced Rockhopper and by the time you've changed the saddle/bars/brakes/whatever else you'll have spent way more.
Thanks. I'm not in a desperate rush to buy, so I'll have a look around. One of the discounted bikes (such as the Charge Cooker) might be fine, or something like the Pinnacle Ramin 3+. However, the secondhand route might be a good option if I can find something which appeals. I know it's a common moan, but it seems there are too many 'standards' these days, so it's likely that any bike or bits I buy now won't be compatible with my next upgrade.
I'd be doing some longish routes in Scotland (Aviemore) so I'm thinking a 29er might be a sensible choice, and maybe a fully rigid bike.
Mmm. Fatbike country.
Mmm...you might be right, but how fat is fat in Aviemore? I'm getting confused with all the variants - 27.5Plus, 29Plus - or one of the original fat bikes such as a Pugsley.
I drive through aviemore regularly, (coach driver) and i see plenty of fat bikes (full fat)
Having 26, 29, 29+ and a Pugsley. 29 or 29+ would get my vote for longer trips. I did 6+ hour days for 7 days in France on a 29+ it was really comfy, but 29+ means specific wheels, tyres, etc....
Is 29+ Surly Krampus? Are there many others off-the-shelf? I know someone who rode a Krampus, and he thought it was great. However, at the time only Knards were available, and I heard they were terrible in the wet. Are there any 29+ tyres suitable for UK riding?
The Inbred has a 1 1/8th head tube so will limit what forks you can put on it when you decide you want suspension.
deejayen - MemberIs 29+ Surly Krampus? Are there many others off-the-shelf?
Trek Stache is 29+.
As a few above have already said, unless you have bits already then you're going to spend around £500 building an Inbred all in even with a lot of second hand parts and lots of Deore, and you'll still have a 26er with a 1 1/8 head tube and extremely restricted future scope for forks.
£500 will buy a good SH 26er bike or average larger wheeled bike. You could be looking at 2010ish FS bikes or nice 853 Hardtails like older Cotic Souls etc with Fox forks, XT bits all over and the like.
Depends what you want really; I'd probably buy a £500 sh bike personally, but if buying new then Boardmans are well worth a look, as are any 'last years models' that your LBS might be trying to clear out...
I'd be doing some longish routes in Scotland (Aviemore) so I'm thinking a 29er might be a sensible choice, and maybe a fully rigid bike.
If you can afford a good suspension fork you will appreciate on that sort of trail. Athough I'm not inluding + bikes in this statememt
Don't get too hung up on wheel size
If I were riding round Aviemore I would want a wider range of gears than that Ramin 3+. A 11-36 and 32 chain ring would be too much for me on a long steep climb
Last years Ramin 4 gets a great fork and a much better range of gear IMHO for 10% more
I'd look at Decathlon and Halfords and see what they do as well
Boardman Mountain Bike Team 29er £680 (£620)
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/mountain-bikes/boardman-mountain-bike-team-29er
Boardman Mountain Bike Comp 27.5" £520 (£480)
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/mountain-bikes/boardman-mountain-bike-comp-27-5
I have a 10% off code for the above if you want it. My money would be on the 29er.