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Currently have a steel 456, so I'm happy with geometry etc, just looking at opportunity to shed a bit of weight & see that both offer a springier ride than the steel.
Question is which to go for? Anyone ridden both?


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:08 am
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I rode the original Ti one for an hour or so and own a carbon (and have owned a steel).

I'd say the Ti one had far more 'twang' than the carbon - it feels very different (not sure if geometry is now shared across the 3 types of frame now).

Maybe put up where you live and get a test ride on one/both?


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:12 am
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I've a 16" Lynskey made 456TI for sale if you decide to go Ti... 😉


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:15 am
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16 is too small I'm afraid - I have an 18" steel.

Twang as in smooth over the ground or flex/twist in frame through corners. Want stiffness for cornering, but smooth over the ground.


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:34 am
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I'd say the carbon is stiffer on corners/tech stuff - the Ti one did the 'twang' thing everywhere. It's not a bad thing and doesn't necessarily slow you down, it's just noticeable as you put power down that there's a little 'winding up' before you shoot forward.

I really would get a ride if you can - it's a big decision.


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:42 am
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They have just knocked £100 off the Ti and thrown in a free Hope headset. I would like to try a Ti one to know if I made the right choice. The carbon one is a bit harsh at low speed (well it is a hard tail) but really smooth at high speed and no twist cornering or under power.

ikimbunza - where are you? I ride a 16".


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:45 am
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I've had both, the lynskey original and now the carbon one. I'd say there isn't a huge amount of difference other than price.


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 11:46 am
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andyl, i'm based in Cheshire.

Had seen that On One had discounted the Van Nic versions so i hope i've priced my Lynskey one ok (advert in classifieds) but i'm open to offers.

They are lovely frames. I'd be keeping mine if funds allowed 🙁


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:06 pm
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Want stiffness for cornering, but smooth over the ground
Laterally stiff yet vertically compliant?
http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2007/08/bsnyc-2008-dream-bike-shootout.html


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:10 pm
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I'd seen the Ti frame offer online last night, which only further muddied the waters.
Interesting to note ti456neal comments. Carbon weight is appealling, but even the ti will shed a couple of pounds, although frame for winter use mostly, so having added lots of Cotswold clay, it won't make too much difference.
Still not decided!!


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:12 pm
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Carbon


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:22 pm
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The carbon one isn't pretty, is it?


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:28 pm
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I don't really look at the bike when I'm riding it. 😉


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 12:51 pm
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I've had steel and carbon 456s. The carbon is noticeably nippier and does seem to soak up some of the bumps (although I can't help feeling some of this is psychological and down to the different sound of a carbon frame). Pics of the carbon one nearly put me off but it looks a whole lot better in the flesh. I actually quite like the look of mine


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 1:21 pm
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I probably keep saying this, but IME the carbon 456 needs a carbon seatpost to give it a nice comfy ride.

Mine was noticeably more harsh when I stuck my Thomson post in for a ride.

I'd like to try the ti456 to compare, but my c456 is definitely a "keeper".


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 1:24 pm
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Ahhh...I don't have a good record with carbon seatposts!


 
Posted : 26/07/2011 1:39 pm