[Closed] Oh God - go on then - lets see some Singular swifts :oD

Not SS 😉

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SS with manitous
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SS rigid
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SS Mav SC32
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1 x 9
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3 x 9
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had enough yet?

A Gryphon rather than a Swift, but as no one ever says "lets see photos of a Singular Gryphon"...

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Appologies for the state of my garden, front brake hose and steerer tube.

RocketDog - what length are those minutes? What do you think of them?

120mm.....and i now have Mav SC32 and the minutes are in the garage, great forks, really light but need a frame designed for the longer travel really, 80 or 100mm minutes would work a treat though

Thought they looked a bit long! Can't you drop them internally to 100mm?

not sure,any ideas? usually reducing the travel doesn't reduce the axel-crown length, just how far the forks compress, which wouldn't solve the length issues

Hmm lovin' this thread, a rigid Alfine Swift is the +1 in the standard n+1 equation for how many bikes do I need

big bike
big bloke
big ben (nevis)

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rOcKeTdOg - Member
not sure,any ideas? usually reducing the travel doesn't reduce the axel-crown length, just how far the forks compress, which wouldn't solve the length issues

Yes it does! I can't think of a fork that shortens travel without reducing the a-c length (though no doubt there is one!) You can reduce the travel on just about any air fork simply by increasing the length of the top out bumper even on forks that aren't designed to be travel adjustable.

Rocket Dog - When I drop travel on my old vanillas (add a spacer) from 130 to 100 the a-c gets 30mm shorter and when I raised the Wife's Rebas (remove a spacer) from 100 to 120 the a-c got 20mm bigger. I assume manitou work the same?

EDIT: A quick trawl of the interweb indicates that it isn't a trivial task. Not entirely sure why, but something to do with them not having the length of stroke determined solely by spacers.

big bike
[b]big bloke[/b]
big ben (nevis)

Yet not as big as I'd assumed...

That bike is probably a 22" frame or something... you need to see a pic of Ton in a group of IT XC whippets and then you'll see differently!

TT not long enough clubber?

? eh?

oh, seatpost/saddle position, you mean?

25" TT is fine - I've just always liked the saddle a fair way back behind the BB

Ah fair enough, that's how I like it but yours does look quite extreme, your forks look like Reba, what happened to the Suntour?

Found a well priced reba on the classifieds. Sold the Epicon. TBH the Reba isn't really any better though. It does look nice in white though 🙂

Fair bit lighter surely?

Don't think so - the Epicon wasn't heavy.

the Epicon wasn't heavy.

1850g 😐 😉

29er Rebas are 1.7/1.8kg ish IIRC

and IIRC the Epicon is quoted with the 15mm axle included

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singular plus alfine

Currently in bits in the garage but it is now set up with a 1x9 drivetrain, different saddle (the Brooks was just getting trashed) and Mary bars. Needs some better brakes as well.

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That's up to 150g difference godammit, every gram counts for those vital seconds etc. 😉

Given the extra weight of the frame, forks and wheels I'm surprised 29ers have taken off with the (albeit mainly USA) pros.

I must try one out one day.

If you want to borrow mine, you're welcome - just let me know.

The lightest 29ers now seem to be getting pretty damn light - supposedly they're being built with lighter components than you can get away with on a 26" bike because they roll over stuff better and hence stress the components less though I'll admit to being sceptical on that to some extent since that was always touted on FS and reality was just that you went fast over stuff so needed the same strength.

Thanks, will do.

You should ride it at the HONC, be a good choice of bike for the course.

But not as good as my CX bike 🙂 (probably - there are some conditions that I'd consider riding it with the CX tyres fitted).

Clubber, Whats with your Seat layback?

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usually reducing the travel doesn't reduce the axel-crown length

Are you on crack? 🙂

timc - Member
Clubber, Whats with your Seat layback?

clubber - Member
oh, seatpost/saddle position, you mean?

25" TT is fine - I've just always liked the saddle a fair way back behind the BB

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Here's mine, need to take some better pics but not had it long. Loving it though

jfeb - Member
A Gryphon rather than a Swift, but as no one ever says "lets see photos of a Singular Gryphon"...

Well I like it 🙂

clubber - Member
oh, seatpost/saddle position, you mean?
25" TT is fine - I've just always liked the saddle a fair way back behind the BB

Have you some kind of Gibbon arms or hobbit legs?

Technically if you're talking about some sort of KOPs position then longer femurs will require a saddle further back. And it's a long back I have, rather than particularly long arms.

freak 😉

possibly so..

I want one, defo gonna be my next purchase... 🙂

here's mine, Love it but quite fancy a crosser might swap for the right bike.....

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Cheers Steve

thanks all some great pics / ideas here, does appear most keep the stock steel fork - looks long though, anyone have trouble keeping the front end down when climbing due to the long fork ?

Might consider some carbon exotics to drop the front - anyone ?
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I was going to get some carbon ones but after a few rides I felt I didnt need to, handles the climbs out of the valley fine, I was going to get some carbons to take some of the vibrations out, broken wrist is a bit sensitive.

Cheers Steve

does appear most keep the stock steel fork - looks long though, anyone have trouble keeping the front end down when climbing due to the long fork ?

keeping front end down is fine with rigid fork... though i replaced mine
it is just nicer to ride with suspension fork.. though the stock swift fork is quite absorbing/flexy to some degree, can't see a carbon fork being any more comfortable

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The bike was designed to work with those forks rather than as an afterthought. The forks are excellent as far as rigid forks go, and far better than any carbon fork I have had on other 26" bikes. I have a permanently bust thumb and often get numb hands, but no pain with this fork. Really is very, very good for a rigid.

I have experienced no wandering at all, if anything I have trouble getting the front wheel up compared to my 456 or Heckler. Which given that it is my SS rigid XC bike is probably as it should be! I still have spacers under the stem with a flat bar so there is room to play with. I wouldn't say it is too high at all.

They're some of the best rigid forks I've ridden - noticeably flexy back/forward so that they're noticeably smoother than most rigids but perfectly stiff side to side. Can't say I noticed any front end lift either since as stated, the frame was designed around that length of fork.

Fork looks long but is excellent in use, perfectly designed for the frame

Mike_D - Member

usually reducing the travel doesn't reduce the axel-crown length

Are you on crack?

static length man, not under compression 🙄

Rocket Dog - When I drop travel on my old vanillas (add a spacer) from 130 to 100 the a-c gets 30mm shorter and when I raised the Wife's Rebas (remove a spacer) from 100 to 120 the a-c got 20mm bigger. I assume manitou work the same?

EDIT: A quick trawl of the interweb indicates that it isn't a trivial task. Not entirely sure why, but something to do with them not having the length of stroke determined solely by spacers.

I dropped the travel on my minutes, dead easy, just bung a spacer underneath the top-out bumper. The reason everyone says its difficult is manitou designed the 3 travel models (120, 100, 80) with different length internals, unlike rockshox, so you can get an 'official' kit to do it. I just used a bit of old fork i had in my spares box to drop the travel 30mm to 90mm. Meant i actually got some standover height on my 21".

Dont have my Swift now though, sizing was weird on the 21", felt short but with crazy high bars and no standover room. If you look at all the pics posted the lowest bars are only about an inch lower than the saddle, i run my bars much lower than the saddle, even my DH bike had bars lower than the Swift! and that has 8" travel. Hoping to try a 19" at some point to see if, with lower bars, it feels long enough. Should hopefully make it feel a bit more nimble too.

clubber - Member
They're some of the best rigid forks I've ridden - noticeably flexy back/forward so that they're noticeably smoother than most rigids but perfectly stiff side to side...

I'd agree. It's as good as a good carbon fork so the only reason to consider replacing it is weight, and the fork isn't particularly heavy.

rOcKeTdOg - Member

static length man, not under compression 🙄

Static length [b]is[/b] reduced. Just look at RS u-turn - wind down the travel and the fork gets shorter. Same for Fox, same for Pace. Haven't done it on Manitous myself but I'd be amazed if they weren't the same.

Don't forget the Hummingbird for those of us who are vertically challenged:

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Now with slightly less idiotic handlebars - replaced with a much lower rise.

Haven't done it on Manitous myself

they key phrase i think

Remind me the model then - I'll have a look at the manual - bet I'm right though 🙂

RD, if you open them up and put the reducer spacer in the right place it will lower the fork and drop the travel. Remember, this is a different conversion than is required on the SC32's where you to reduce travel WITHOUT reducing height in order to run the 29er wheel.

epicyclo - Member

jfeb - Member
A Gryphon rather than a Swift, but as no one ever says "lets see photos of a Singular Gryphon"...

Well I like it

🙂 Thanks

will this craving never abate?

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Disaster... I didn't think the £350 Niner fork would suit the swift... NO holidays this year kids... You have rootes1 to thank...