Not giving kudos for indoor rides (or runs)

So is there a reason why you haven’t been arsed to turn on making everything  private by default? It’s literally a one-time 5 or 6 button presses. Then you can just make public the stuff that people might actually like to see.

it’s not a case of can’t be arsed. My view is that Strava is primarily for me to look at my fitness. If others who I know wish to view it or encourage that’s entirely up to them.

your comment that you

tend to only follow people who curate their feeds. If you air your chaff exercise in public, you are a knob and are jettisoned from my feed.

really is quite bizarre. I am glad that we don’t follow each other.

Correct

You consort with eebers?  Goodness me, rum do

Giving Kudos is dumb, full stop.

I am glad that we don’t follow each other.

Don't worry - never gonna happen!

I know people who just use Strava as a place to collect their exercise data....to do whatever you do with exercise data. Their watch auto uploads every time they record something and they seldom actual go on to see it. You can tell these people as the titles of their exercise is the default one strava gives it and they never write any notes. This is actually me 99% of the time too. But every now and then I'll do something that might just possibly be mildly interesting to someone who knows me - and I like to reciprocate and look at friends more interesting events too. I'll add a note or two, upload a photo from the ride/paddle/ski whatever and make it public. Otherwise by default it's set to 'only me'. It took me, oh I don't know, 20 seconds to set all my feed to 'only me' a number of years ago to make this possible.

Once you know this is possible (and so easy), to not do, is a bit like those people who post a photo of every single meal they eat like they think anyone would give a ****. You are making the conscious decision that everyone who knows you wants to know about your 400m swim in their feed. The equivalent of a photo of your beans on toast without context or comment.

The analogy does break down a bit - in Facebook to post a photo of your beans on you actually have to post it. In strava, you have to spend that 20 seconds (once) changing the default settings......and know it's possible....and care. Also - if you are logging stuff for a challenge it can't be set to 'only you'. Strava does have a 'mute' option which is pretty good as the activity remains public on your page and works for challenges but does not get put into people or your club's feed. Only snag is you have to mute the activity each and every time which is never going to happen. So my issue you is as much with the platform as it is with the users.

However - I still think it's knobish to know you don't need to clutter people's feeds with gash and still elect to do it. That or you've got no actual friends interested enough in what you do to follow you, in which case it doesn't really matter.

Strava is weird.

This thread confirms it.

I don't, but it's not in a judgy way.

I just think of the Kudos function as a "that looks cool" thing, and indoor activities never look cool.

Why does any of this matter? After all, you choose who you want to follow - nobody is forcing "you" to follow anyone who has "objectionable" Strava activities! Just unfollow them - simple!

My activities are private by default and I record all sorts of shite because they count to annual targets I've set myself for self-motivation purposes. I choose to make certain "dull" activities visible to the tiny amount of my followers, mostly cos Mrs Vlad likes to see photos of our dog out walking but I'm also in "quite competition" with a few of my old buddies who I rarely see anymore. I can't speak for them, but seeing their activities, even dull ones, helps my motivation - maybe it's reciprocal?

Strava ‘could be’ a brilliant advert fee way of keeping up with what people you know are up to

Gonna start adding pub crawls to mine then.

Why is everyone getting so het up? If you want to add kudos, add kudos. If not, then don't. If you find someone is posting too much what you think is chaff, unfollow them.

I follow people who I know, and will give them kudos for stuff that I know is contributing to their goals - so late night indoor training for the marmotte - yes. Recovery dog the next day - yes. Swim in the pool for my mate who is trying a tri - yes. Mate who i haven't seen for a while cos he's not riding much, but is obvs doing hikes for Jan - yes

Chillax people.....

Or golf

Can you get kudos for curating?

There would be some pretty big hitters on this thread.

I only give Kudos on rides IRL....

However – I still think it’s knobish to know you don’t need to clutter people’s feeds with gash and still elect to do it. That or you’ve got no actual friends interested enough in what you do to follow you, in which case it doesn’t really matter.

just as well the world is made up of different types of people and varying opinions really..

Never heard of it until recently until some mates starting giving it to me. Why FFS. It's my usual 10 mile commute that takes nearly an hour. Hardly worth saying well done for. Maybe , "You fat old git might be better".

It's just yet another modern fad where everyone has to be special. Twaddle

For no other reason than my own personal amusement I never give kudos for parkrun.

I only give kudos for more than normal if that makes sense,

Occasionally I do the reverse. A friend (super strong rider, many long/fast/hilly rides, many KOMs) will occasionally post a 1/2 mile ride to the beach or something so everyone piles on with kudos and deliberately OTT comments.

Awesome ride mate, you'll have to let us know your nutrition and training tips!

Epic ride, smashed it out the park!

He gets more kudos and comments on those ones than he does on yet another sub-4hr, 80-mile smashfest.

Me not too.

Only for MTB rides. Cos that’s all I think is worth a high five.

All mine are set to Private default and I change only my mtb rides to Followers. No one wants to see my daily commutes. If Strava had an option to only store certain things I’d use it. Getting kudos is quite nice too.

Garmin connect has all the good stuff and raw data. Stats Stats Stats.

I am generous with it. Anyone breaking into a sweat by voluntarily undertaking a physical activity in their free time is streets ahead of most of the population sat on their arses watching telly.  It's easy to forget that on here, or if you are uber athletic and only mix with very fit people irl. For a lot of us, it's a bit of an effort! So a virtual "good effort mate"  can be a bit of a boost. Costs nowt and is easy to ignore by those that think it's twee.  Most of my less than super fit mates and family seem to appreciate it.

Thanks to this thread I've created 25 false accounts with the express purpose of giving my real account kudos. I  will be uploading every movement.

When I first saw the title of this thread I thought to myself 'do people not have more to worry about than whether or not to give somebody kudos'. Then I read peoples replies and I'm openly disgusted about how many of you think it's okay to judge people and decide whether their activity is deemed good enough to earn your recognition or not. I'm tempted to sign up for a completely different platform just so I don't have to be anywhere near that level of god complex. If anybody follows me and gets annoyed by my dog walks or heaven forbid occasional ebike rides feel free to stop following me because I think my life would be so much better without you!

Do you know if anyone actually looks at your activity. Auto kudos has put me off along with all the challenges getting easier.  Strava just links to Veloviewer and I am happy, also decided to cancel subscription.

(Yes, I know some people take Strava too seriously).

Yes they do seem to don't they? 😮

Not only do I not give kudos for indoor rides and the like – I tend to only follow people who curate their feeds. If you air your chaff exercise in public, you are a knob and are jettisoned from my feed. Filling other people’s feed with your indoor rides, commutes to work, or 1km walk from the hotel to the cafe is only one step better than coughing up phlegm and showing the contents of your hanky to someone.

I guess I never realised people take some things so seriously that I see as a bit of a fun.

It’s my usual 10 mile commute that takes nearly an hour. Hardly worth saying well done for.

Find it difficult to believe, if you do that 5 days a week all year round,  that you never have days where it's just a massive chore, riding home in the dark, in the cold, getting rained on, legs tired, cars close passing you, after a stressful day at work? If that's nothing but water off a ducks back to you... are you a machine? It doesn't ever leave you too tired for things you actually enjoy? Pah, well, we all have different capabilities, but still, I'm grateful that I'm more able than many people.

Always.
Effort is effort, no matter how you did it.
Me, and many of my mates are seafarers, so half of our life means gym based rides or runs.

I give kudos moslty to people who post nice piccies regardless of how hard or easy the ride/walk/run was. Also if they come up with an amusing title. And particularly if the activity features a particularly happy-looking dog frolicking in the snow.

Sometimes I just click the little thumb thing because it's a mate who's not been out for a while and I'm pleased to see them doing stuff.

I'm not arrogant enough to think people are fascinated by my rides indoor or out. The whole thing of making stuff 'private' unless it's 'K2 without supplementary oxygen in winter' mystifies me, but most I use Strava to keep track of my own riding and see what more distant mates are up to.

I don't really care about kudos one way or another tbh. I see it as a sort of casual, virtual 'nice one' thing rather than an expression of undying admiration and awe at the sheer splendour of someone's upload, which is probably where things get a bit tangled. YMMV.

I follow people who I know, and will give them kudos for stuff that I know is contributing to their goals –

This.....

I follow people who Strava dog walks, I never do, but if I get to see a pic of a dog they will get some kudos, it is also a quirk of them, the person I am friends with, which is why I follow them. Why would I think they are filling "my feed" with trash.

I did think of another category I never given  Kudos for and that's the few Pro cyclists I follow, don't know why.

I would also add that I never even look at who or how much kudos I get on rides, I really don't think giving or recieving it is worth getting bothered about.

do you also refuse to give kudos for ebike rides

No, but there’s one local whose rides I always flag as e-bike rides as he uploads them as normal MTB rides ?

Hardly worth saying well done for. Maybe , “You fat old git might be better”.

There's comments too for friendly ribbing. Bet some of you don't do that either

I post dog walks too, with pics sometimes, but i notice anagallis arvensis hasn't been giving me kudos. Barsteward 😉

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I post dog walks too, with pics sometimes, but i notice anagallis arvensis hasn’t been giving me kudos. Barsteward ?

Depends on the type of dog, lurcher, greyhounds and whippets always get kudos, French Bulldogs can do one ?

Christ we are even gatekeeping dog breeds on strava now ?

Just checking in here to see if anyone ride doesn't use Strava or am I the only one?

I'm increasingly feeling like a complete luddite.

I don't.

I have an account from back when it was something worth having to log rides but i don't use it.

Because its full off bullshit.

Mainly my mother logging EVERYTHING.

Just checking in here to see if anyone ride doesn’t use Strava or am I the only one?

I’m increasingly feeling like a complete luddite.

It's pretty ubiquitous now but I think there's degrees of 'engagement' with Strava. You can use it like many (most?) do (me included) as a bit of a passive data logging service with a bolt on social element. Do a ride/run/swim/walk and once you save on the Garmin the servers do their thing and it is uploaded and whatever settings you have applied dictate how annoyed/encouraging the collective user base of Strava will be...

As your mental health dictates pouring over your own and others activities, related postings and 'feeds' probably gets worse for you the more you do it (as this thread sort of illustrates).

Like FB a few minutes of "oh that's nice, well done to that fella, that's a shame..." Every couple of weeks probably isn't too bad. If you're checking it daily for more than 5 minutes and it's not related to your job, then I think it's a bit of a problematic habit..

So use FB as your barometer, if you've found it problematic in the past and fear you might get hooked on FB bullshit and lose time to it, stear clear of Strava they want engagement just like FB, if it's a tool to loosely keep track of friends and acquaintance then crack on, if you're getting angry about other people perfectly benign walks, delete the app.

Here’s one for the haters from earlier today, I don’t have many Strava followers on here anyway..

Like minded as IainC, here's one that will set off the lovers and the haters in equal measure - kudos or flame me in the comments. And I've made it viewable to all so Anagallis Avensis can give me kudos if she's cute enough wink emoji

https://www.strava.com/activities/13334302289

Here’s one for the haters

See, there you go - wasn't so hard. A nice photo, a little bit of context in the text - a perfect bit of interesting meat for your followers.

I've had some lovely ones today - someone walking their grandchild born earlier this week with some amazing photos of ice crystals. Another of a friend taking his son for his first ski tour up on the plateau. A group of friends cross country skiing on Dava moor, another with a very smiley selfie from the puffer. And finally.....a friend who has done her first FTP test in yonks ON AN INDOOR BIKE acknowledging there was a bit of work AND GOT SOME KUDOS FROM ME. It's not about what you post publiclly being 'epic'; just interesting to others.

And you know what, I saw all that in 30secs because I've filtered out all the friends and acquaintances who's accounts post automated chaff so didn't have to doom scroll... then I got on with my day (apart from wasting time posting this obviously which rather ruins the point!).

And you know what, I saw all that in 30secs because I’ve filtered out all the friends and acquaintances who’s accounts post automated chaff so didn’t have to doom scroll… then I got on with my day (apart from wasting time posting this obviously which rather ruins the point!).

See, what i am reading is "i wasted 30seconds"

See, what i am reading is “i wasted 30seconds”

That's certainly a view. But as I put on my first post to this thread, you could view Strava as an alternative social media platform into the lives of friends....but imo it only works if those friends give enough of a toss that the stuff they put in your feed is interesting - otherwise it's a bit dull.

Like FB a few minutes of “oh that’s nice, well done to that fella, that’s a shame…” Every couple of weeks probably isn’t too bad. If you’re checking it daily for more than 5 minutes and it’s not related to your job, then I think it’s a bit of a problematic habit..

Where it's definitely worth it is looking for potential new routes. I can scroll pretty quickly through the usual "frosty commute to work" or "Watopia blah blah" but seeing something a bit different from usual like "this friend lives near me but they're riding in Scotland this weekend" is often worth a second look.

 If you’re checking it daily for more than 5 minutes and it’s not related to your job, then I think it’s a bit of a problematic habit..

Oh, I see.... a bit like on STW then?

Depends on the type of dog, lurcher,

Christ we are even gatekeeping dog breeds on strava now ?NN

No types not breeds, otherwise a lurcher wouldn't be with the correct group.

By the way that dog up there has a coat on despite not being a greyhound, whippet or smooth coated lurcher, so gets no kudos...sorry, rules is rules.

Sorry can't find out how to paste but I do find it a bloody chore 5 days a week and sometimes wimp out and drive. However I don't see the need for people to tell me how awesome I am. I know that!

Someone mentions something like anyone riding is doing more than most of the population. That doesn't make that person special, it shows that most people are lazy sods.

We applaud way to much. Bit like Ebay really. Neutral feedback is considered bad but surely it should mean things are as they should be? Or tipping in an eatery. You would tip service above and beyond the normal and that normal should be perfect.

People just expect to be special when most of us are plain normal.

Getting kudos doesn't make you special or mean the person giving it thinks so. It's just... someone clicking a button that says kudos, or "I like this". It's sometimes no more than a fleeting acknowledgement that what you've done is worthy of a single button click 😀

Look at it this way, in your response to someone you don't know on the internet you've gone to 682* times more effort than you have when you've given kudos to an activity.

* based on the number of characters in your post, not taking editing into account, not taking the thought processes that go into creating coherent** sentences.

** well done 😀

@franksinatra

I am also a ludite, I don't use strava and don't even know what kudos is in this context.

Strava is a dick swinging exercise - I don't give a shit what people think of mine. I'll give kudos for a 10 minute walk or a 10 minute indoor ride if that's all the person can manage.

...but imo it only works if those friends give enough of a toss that the stuff they put in your feed is interesting – otherwise it’s a bit dull.

Isn't it the other way round? I thought you'd 'curated' your feed (sacked off anyone failing your attention threshold)... Why should your friends be fretting over what you find interesting, they can post what they like 'chaff' or otherwise.

Lots of things in life are a bit dull that doesn't mean they're not worth a little attention now and then.

Strava is a dick swinging exercise

It's basically what you choose to project onto it. People seem oddly exercised about what's a simple ride recording and sharing platform. If you view other people's rides/activities as some sort of ego projection, it probably says more about you than the platform or those who use it.

If I ride a bike up K2 without supplementary oxygen for reasons best known to myself - maybe I just like the views of the Karakorum - then record my ride on Strava with some ace pics, it's not necessarily because I want the world to kneel at my feet and lick my gear shifters in admiration. I might be doing it to... share an experience with my mates at the click of a button, record my ride so I can see what I've done over the year, complete a monthly climbing challenge, inspire others to do similar, put my innovative route in the public domain or whatever.

If your first thought when you see someone else's ride is, 'Oooh, look at them, bigging themselves up', then you maybe need to ask yourself why you're being quite so prickly and weird.

I'm not saying there isn't any 'dick swinging' on Strava, but mostly it strikes me that it's just ordinary people sharing what they get up to on bikes or on foot etc. In a way, it's intrinsically different from something like Insta where folk have a tendency to curate their lives so that only the best bits show up. People still post their crap, failed workouts and inconsequential weekend strolls on Strava in all their technicolour modesty.

TLDR: it's not the platform, it's you.

Dear God - has it really come to this?

As a parallel, years ago, in northern Colombia, I contemplated trying to climb a big, pointy mountain in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, that happens allegedly to be the world's highest 'coastal' peak in the sense that it's within 20km of the shoreline, or something like that. It's in the middle of a giant shrubbery which is the territory of local indigenous tribes and surrounded by coca plantations run by drug cartels. As a result, you needed a permit to go near it and vanishingly few were issued every year.

It was, theoretically, possible to climb it without permission, but risky and you'd also have to keep quiet about it. I had a long debate with an American climber over whether you'd climb the mountain if you couldn't tell anyone about it. From my point of view, the answer was absolutely yes. The intrinsic value of mountaineering is in the experience, not the retelling of it and associated puffery.

His take was the opposite. As far as he was concerned, if no-one knew you'd climbed it, then it wasn't worth doing. I didn't really get that and I still don't. For me the value of mountaineering is in the moment of being there. I'm not saying it's not nice to share the experience, but if I couldn't, I wouldn't be overly fussed.

I sort of got his point of view, but it seemed ridiculous to me. I guess, ultimately, it comes down to how you're wired, as per how you view Strava.

Dear God – has it really come to this?

Only if you want it to 😉