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I'm taking part in the NYM 300 in July. I'm not particularly familiar with the area and I'm currently trying to locate some resupply points along the route.

Route - https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42123103

Other than the outskirts of Whitby & Kirkbymoorside I'm struggling to find anywhere else to stock up on food? Frustratingly I think I'll be passing Kirkbymoorside pretty early on the Sunday morning before they'll be open.

Would also like to know if there's any access to running tap water along the route if poss.

I think I'm going to end up carrying a lot of food after Whitby to last me to the finish?!

Thanks in advance.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:00 pm
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Looks like there are a few options after Whitby - there'll likely be the ice cream van (does cake and coffee) on Adderstone Field in Dalby, Levisham has a pub, maybe a shop too. Theres a pub and maybe a shop in Rosedale but the big camp site has a well stocked shop. Similarly with Hutton Le Hole, think theres a shop or two there. First stretch from Thirsk to Whitby looks pretty devoid of places to stop for food though...


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:15 pm
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Some ideas for food after whitby in order along route and not really considering time of day:
Hawsker pub/caravan sites
RHB shops/pubs (massive hill out of there...)
Falling Foss cafe - slightly off route from the Woodsmith Mine but you can join up again by following the river upstream to the car park at May Beck
Birch Hall Scout Campsite (water only)
Langdale End Monastery (water only)
Hackness village hall (water only - unless there's a wedding going on...)
Low Dalby visitor centre/ courtyard area - only slightly off route
Adderstone Field coffee van / ice cream (think there's a potable tap round here somewhere)
Ice cream/coffee van at Saltergate car park
Cropton Forest - you pass right by the Forest Holiday park - water aplenty.
Rosedale Abbey - pub/village shop (i think)
Hutton le hole cafes, pub, village shop etc
Not a great deal between Hutton le Hole and Lordstones Country Park (long section).

Happy to stash you some supplies in the Dalby/Wykeham forest area if that's allowed!


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:29 pm
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Thanks both that's really helpful!


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:30 pm
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Lordstones cafe at carlton bank - not sure it will be open for you through

castleton has a coop shop

Dandy north yorkshire moors vistor centre has a water tap outside the toilets.

Some of the route is over footpaths - like the cleveland way

I've done long rides around the moors and the shops are far and few between.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:32 pm
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@geolog - as much as i'd love that it would be frowned upon! Thanks though 🙂 I think this one follows the usual ITT format


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:32 pm
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Lion Inn on Blakey Ridge very short detour after Hutton le Hole.
Then cafe at Carlton Bank (Lordstones)


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:36 pm
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Some of the route is over footpaths – like the cleveland way

The only one I can see (from a quick look) is the footpath up to the glider station before Carlton Bank.
Would suggest this is a bad idea to promote an event on unless they've sought specific permission.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:46 pm
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you fancy a go @tomlevell 🙂


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 12:57 pm
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This route?

https://bikepacking.com/routes/north-yorkshire-moors-ramble/

The map shows places to eat on route.

Looks like decent route. I'd be up for a shot of that.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 4:34 pm
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@didnthurt - looks similar but quite a few differences just looking at the map a little more closely.

The organiser - Stu from RedSky bikes used to run the annual Dales 300 - but he's moved the shop up to Thirsk now hence this new event in the York Moors

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-north-york-moors-300-itt-tickets-566675009207?aff=ebdssbdestsearch&keep_tld=1


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 5:22 pm
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There's a bakery in Danby that is on the route.

Cafe not far from Church Houses (slightly off route) and also a pub there too.

There's the Lion pub at Blakey ridge where you might be able to get water.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 5:36 pm
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As well as above and in no particular order:
Top of Sutton Bank - NYM centre cafe and bike shop (Sutton Bank Bikes)
https://www.northyorkmoors.org.uk/visiting/see-and-do/sutton-bank-national-park-centre

Danby(and on your route):
Bakery and cafe open normal shop hours. Just East of the crossroads on Danby Don't think Sundays. Good for cakes, sarnies, pies, coffee, etc.
https://m.facebook.com/danbybakery
Wellington pub - good for pub style food at normalish pub times. On the crossroads in Danby. Often people with bikes sat outside so you will won't look too wierd in there.
https://dukeofwellingtondanby.co.uk/
NYM Centre cafe about 1km East of Danby. Cafe open 10 until about 5 and public toilets open longer. The toilets are also OK not the sort where you decide you'll hold it in until you find a hedge. The shop in the centre also sells some snacks.
https://www.northyorkmoors.org.uk/visiting/see-and-do/danby-lodge-national-park-centre

Commondale has a pub but the one in Danby is much better and more welcoming.

Ruswarp (just South of Whitby and on your route has a good cafe just West of the village. Open daytime cafe times. Nice tea garden by the river if it's not raining.
https://chainbridgeriverside.com/cafe/

On the cinder path there is a cafe in the old station at Hawsker East of Whitby and bike hire (possible bike shop but wouldn't rely on it as it's mainly hire but could be useful if bike broken). Cafe in Ruswarp is many times better though.
https://trailways.info/

Also just East of Hawsker there is a stall with honesty box on the cinder track. It was cakes £1 on bank holiday Monday. Also has drinks. Home made flapjack and lemon drizzle we're good.
Approximately here:
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https://maps.app.goo.gl/4udE5Q2hmS91jQ1R6

I'll have a think later for any more.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 6:45 pm
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A couple more:
Rosedale has a shop and tearoom open cafe hours and a pub. The pub is well set up for caravan site and was Ok when we went but was a number of years ago. Not a destination but will feed you well.
Rosedale village site has links
http://www.rosedaleabbey.com/eat-and-drink.html

Swainby has a village shop and good pubs if you go a mile or so off route.

On weekends there is often a van selling coffee and food in the car park at the top of Clay Bank (crossing of B1257).

Castleton has a Co op and pub and zero waste shop which is good for sweets but is off your route. Co op is open 7 until 10 every day though so could be a worth the detour.
https://www.coop.co.uk/store-finder/YO21-2DA/8-high-street

There will be more places but those are what I can remember or know of. If going off route for supplies the check the contours on the map. An extra down and up is a killer.


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 9:47 pm
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Of course you'd never contemplate cycling on a footpath but if you want to go into Whitby (it is usually very very busy so rarely a pleasant shopping experience) then there is a path parallel to the railway line from Ruswarp to Whitby that is almost completely flat. It starts the other side of the line from the station platform and comes out at the land end of the big car park in Whitby. I don't think it's on all maps. Or if you timed it just so get the train from Ruswarp to Whitby and back for supplies 😉
Edit: also easy shop stop in Whitby would be leave the Cinder path at the S. End of the viaduct but instead of turning towards Ruswarp go the other way and there is a large Sainsbury's less than a mile and not too much up and down away. Also has a coffee machine, toilets and hot food counter. Petrol station has slightly longer Sunday hours than the big shop.
https://stores.sainsburys.co.uk/2272/whitby

Taking the cinder path into Whitby adds an up and down to your route (and isn't very direct).


 
Posted : 17/05/2023 11:01 pm
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@r8jimbob88 Thought of a couple more facilities on your route.
There is a pub at Egton for food
http://www.thewitchingpostinn.co.uk/

Also public toilets (usually smelly but functional) in Ruswarp about here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/YFUc4c6NtqQJa9Uf7

If you have a bike / weather/ body or sense of humour failure then the train is a useful bail out option. From any of the stations West of Whitby there are 4 or 5 trains a day to Middlesbrough. From there there is about one train an hour from early morning to late evening to Thirsk (it's Transpennine so cancellations are more than possible).
For more frequent trains from the northern leg of your route head North to Saltburn (avoid the coast road from Whitby as it's mega hilly) and there are 2 trains an hour to Middlesbrough from about 06:30 to 10pm. From there Transpennine back to Thirsk. A few now go direct from Saltburn.
Northern trains are easy with bikes. Transpennine usually possible from MBro to Thirsk.


 
Posted : 18/05/2023 10:43 pm