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Not to worry, I appreciate the offer anyway. Definitely not out riding this weekend as I went away biking 3 days on the one just gone. May see if I can get a couple of hours tonpop out the following weekend.
You could always get some aftermarket decals for the 350's:
https://www.slikgraphics.com/collections/dt-swiss/products/dt-swiss-350-hub-decal-kit
Slight hijack but I've got a set of 350 hubs (currently on wheels) that I could split.
Hi Stevie, how old are the hubs you’ve got? My bike is a little awkward as it’s boost rear hub with an xd driver but non boost 15x100 at the front. I cheaped out on the fork when I specced it as boost was another £50 or so.
@joebristol No sweat. I'm around all day if you do find yourself down here. I'm just off Baldwin Street.
Getting tempted to just go Hope and ‘hope’ for the best that the rear hub doesn’t annoy me.
new bike came with 370's, old one had pro 4's. pro 4's are a bit louder but i prefer that anyway.
bigger thing for me is the pick up, 370 is noticeably slower than the pro 4. not really been a problem riding but it is noticeable so when i get a better set of wheels it will be pro 4's.
Pro4 hubs will be a lot louder than anything from DT. I've had Pro4, 350 and 240 hubs with the DT offerings being much quieter. Currently have I9 which are the loudest hubs I've owned with guys at the front of a group ride saying they can hear them even if I'm at the back of the group. Despite the volume. I don't really notice the noise so much over the general trail chatter.
i also have a set of Hope Pro4 road hubs and these are way quieter than the MTB version so clearly Hope can make a quieter hub.
In didn’t know they made road pro 4 hubs that were different to mtb ones. Weird that one set are quieter than the other.
I don’t want silent hubs ala Shimano, but equally don’t want to waken the dead with my freewheel either!
It's the RS4 although will be too narrow for modern MTB applications. They are comparable to DTSwiss in terms of noise I would say and I expect you could use the internals in an MTB hub. If you spoke to Hope directly they may well supply you a set of RS4 internals in a Pro4 if they can be interchanged.
What size rims are you after? I have a set of 350's boost rear- xd driver (18t ratchet), non boost front, centrelock but can add six bolt adapters. Built on 29" XM481's with silver revolutions. Rear is pretty much new, front older but still excellent condition. PM/e-mail if they are of any interest.
Afraid I’m on 650b and would like black double butted spokes - and 6 bolt! Modern bike standards are silly the number of variations. Also planning to build my own wheels which I quite enjoy doing with a cheekier thatchers gold 😃🔧🍺
No worries, thought I'd offer them cos' of the different sized hubs! +1 for building wheels though, I find it oddly therapeutic!
Indeed, after the pair of 26” ones I built for my hardtail I’ve not picked up a pair of bargain wtb i23 rims I’m going to build up just for fun (£8 each). A mate will have them or I’ll sell them on eBay. Got a £15 Planet X 15x100 hub for the front but not found a bargain on a decent back hub yet.
After hearing someone’s very loud hub at Leigh Woods on Wednesday night (I’m assuming it was Hope as the bike had a lot of bling anodised stuff on it) I think I’m now leaning towards the DT 350. Would rather have a quiet hub than one that shouts at me. I’ve also read a few posts where Hope hubs need more maintenance on the pawls and also where people have said it’s a relief to ride quieter bikes sometimes!
My brand new Pro 4 hub is very quiet. A lot quieter than the novatec hub it replaced and way quieter than the old Pro 2 hubs
Interesting - most of the feedback I’ve had ia Hope are near enough the nosiest hubs going. The one the other night could have been a Pro2 I suppose.
If your star ratchet hubs are getting 'loud'' it means they need popping out and re greasing.
Working as new they are audible but enough of a reminder to pedal without being a nuisance or annoying imo
I find loud hubs like i9 a little offensive 😉
I have 350s with the 36t ratchet and some pro2 evos. Not sure how much the pro2 and 4 differ but can do a quick video / audio clip tomorrow.
Hopes are definitely louder though.
Thanks Joe, that would be really good to compare. I had the 350 hubs in my basket online to buy earlier, but then held off. Still not sure. DT are probably more reliable but they aren’t as exciting a purchase as Hope, which are a bit more bling in my mind.
here are the sounds. when you look at the waveform graph for all three the hope is the loudest followed by the spank then the DT swiss. The tone of the hubs is also quite different. I prefer the spank.
Thanks for this Poah! Amazing.
I’m not ruling the Hope out yet after that, and hearing a couples of other bikes with Hope hubs on them in the week. Hadn’t realised a couple of the guys have Hope hubs on their bikes - and they aren’t too loud.
Not sure Spank hubs have even made it onto my short list, although they sound ok.
So really it comes down to DT reliability vs Hope - it sounds like DT have less issues. However the Hope has a quicker pickup (unless you buy a new ratchet upgrade kit for the DT) and is a little more bling imo.
Got enough money for hubs and spokes set aside, will wait until I have cash for rims too, then buy everything in one go.
spank hubs on their own are not that common on their own. I bought their wheelsets. Only put that up as I have the hubs. Hope are louder than the other two but I personally don't notice it on the trail. Never had an issue with pick up on the spank which is a 30t 3 pawl system.
I’m sure pickup isn’t even a thing I’ll notice but I’ve got to differentiate somehow. DT Swiss 350 only has 18 vs Hope’s 40 something.
get the upgrade on the 350 or just buy the hope.
Those are the options. Guess I’ll see how the mood takes me when I have all the cash for the wheelset.
I’ve just got the spokes to build a front wheel that I got bargain bits for, and the rear spokes are enroute. Once built hopefully they’ll sellnok and that’ll provide pretty much all the cash I then need.
Should be a nice set of tubeless ready budget 26”’wheels for someone. Wtb st i23 tubeless rims with black halo spokes / nipples, then an XT rear hub and a Planet X el guapo front hub. Apparently thatvfront hub is the same as the Stan’s Neo.
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the Novatec on my road wheels (actually 6 bolt MTB hubs) are loud enough that my mate complains about them 🙂
I’ve got Hunt wheels on my road bike which probably use a varient on a novatec hub. I don’t need a bell, I just freewheel.
Maybe if I’m used to that then this whole thread is irrelevant?
edit - although I often have headphones in when on the road bike, but never on the mtbs.