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He'll be asking us to wipe his poor northern bum next.
No need, they've already got their own bike recycling projects.
http://nesep.co.uk/aboutse/showcase/sports-recycler/
http://www.transitionliverpool.org/1/post/2011/4/new-bicycle-recyling-project-in-liverpool.html
Are things that bad in the North that you don't have Google? 🙂
I resent being called a hash head. It took a lot of effort to give up smoking!
There's one fixie rider in that video (not counting my occasional dabbling at the velodrome) and he definitely doesn't have dreads.
Being lectured to by Mr A about small pockets of poverty is a joke.Most of the the collapsed industrial reservations of North England,Scotland and Wales have more pressing problems facing them than financing a bunch of Brizzel trendies into having a nice facility.Its time you southerners had a dose of mass poverty and allowed the peoples of the other Britain to enjoy your middle class lifestyles.
Oh and I dont mean the idea you Tory boys had before the last election of moving 7 million of us down to Cambridge.
.Its time you southerners had a dose of mass poverty
What a ****.
Do keep contributing to this thread Mr Monkey, it gives us a laugh and saves me the trouble of bumping it myself.
Is this the same chap who recently enquired about buying a Jaguar XF?
So it would seem. But on another thread he's singing the praises of Aldi waterproofs, so I suppose it balances out.
While I can see what Monkeycmonkeydo is on about, what gets me most is that fact this is all preteneding to be for the good of low income families and the community which by and large wont come all the way into town to get their bike fixed.
How about opening this shop in the middle of St Pauls, Southmead, knowle? target demographic right there....bet you wont though as then you'd have no one to buy the s****y coffee and overpriced cake
You're basing this opinion on what exactly? Have you talked to any local cafe or bike shop owners about where their customers come from, and how far they travel? Rob and others are putting a lot of time and personal savings into this and you can bet they've done their homework. Not to mention that when they trialled the idea on Park Street they had around 100 people bring their bikes in for servicing in 6 days.
Love the way you also answer your own point about location. You're right, I can't imagine a cafe in St Pauls would get as much in the way of passing trade as one in the city centre.
And... can people get over the fact that the coffee is going to be decent quality stuff, from a proper machine and everything? Is this really regarded as something dangerously exotic? Maybe it's time to bring back the coffee lounge bit of the forum.
By the way, they're up to £3k now, with over 40 days left to go. This is clearly a doomed idea. 😉
http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/investment/roll-for-the-soul-a-community-bike-cafe-for-bristol-1228
And... can people get over the fact that the coffee is going to be decent quality stuff, from a proper machine and everything? Is this really regarded as something dangerously exotic? Maybe it's time to bring back the coffee lounge bit of the forum.
It's about focus, and for good or bad, the tarty coffee appears to be playing a disproportionately larger roll (see what I did there 😉 ) in the proposition than perhaps it should be. A bit more hair shirt and bit less fixie/coffee references may help with the marketing.
If you look at that BBP video, it's the perfect example of the "hair shirt" approach. I applaud what they're doing, massively, but I'm not falling over myself to volunteer there. Helping recovering addicts and asylum seekers build bikes takes a lot of care, understanding and patience, not my internet-stunted social skills. And it all takes place behind (very secure) closed doors. I personally prefer the idea of somewhere that's going to be as much of a drop-in/hangout spot as it is a social enterprise.
And FFS, what's "tarty" coffee. The rubbish instant stuff you're probably drinking has been through a much more elaborate manufacturing process than any fresh-ground espresso or cappucino. 😉
Is this the same chap who recently enquired about buying a Jaguar XF?
[cough]Champagne Socialist[/cough]
I'm an economic migrant (Geordie in Bristol) and now I don't know whether to support a potentially worthy business effort or shun it and send my hard-earned cash back to the North!
FFS. Surely it's the tarty coffee and nice cake that will attract people with money - they will spend it on sugar and caffeine and therefore help fund Rob and his team in carrying out its projects for the less well off?
I think we would all be better of contributing to mt local cycling centre in Middlesbrough.Now there is a community that could do with a real break,(cycling or otherwise).Ok we all own one to many Tracksuits and prefer bubble to blow.But that,s better than being attached our hash pipes 24/7 in the hope that we can appreciate some bloke who scrawls on walls and sounds like Wurzel Gummidge.To tall ,don,t be a traitor.Get over there and smash a bottle of Newky Brown over there Dreads.North-East branch of the Angry Brigade.
Buy a Mondeo instead of that Jag and donate the difference.... job done 😉
Ooooh, burn! (Licks finger, makes sizzling noise)
what wallop said. It's like Robin Hood without but with coffee instead of arrows and sticks.
If it was all about giving stuff away for free, then it wouldn't be sustainable.
If northerners weren't so lazy then maybe they would earn as much as those who live in the South.
Bristol, however, is not in the South.
Was that sbob or slob.Very similar.Bristol is not in the South 😀
It's sbob.
Slobs are the types of people up north who sit around doing nought but shovelling pies into their grubby mouths, all funded no doubt by their fortnightly benefits.
But at least we can take a drink and a joke without getting aggressive. Just realised sbob rhythms with knob.How apt.
I'm a cyclist who likes coffee and cake. But I'm struggling to see the attraction of a dedicated cycle coffeeshop, except for one that has loads of bike racks on the premises.
Wasn't it all started by that 'Look Mum ...' place on the telly? Makes a nice TV studio, but I'm not convinced it's viable in little old Bristol.
We're the eighth largest city in the UK, and we've got a cycling rate that's double the national average. Oxford managed to keep a cycle co-op running for over 10 years (albeit the bricks and mortar shop came to an end in 2011). I think Bristol needs this more than it needs another delicatessen or a student nightclub.
Slight hijack: if there are any structural engineers out there who can advise on cutting a hole in a concrete floor, drop Rob an email: rdw3000ATyahooDOTcoDOTuk.
i wish the project all the very best but it does sound a little bit like it'll be guilt free lattes for lefty handwringers 😀
I'll ask if they can do exploitative Bovrils for reactionary neo-conservatives. Just to balance things out.
reactionary neo-conservatives
I don't really know what these are or if I'm one or if you meant that as an insult. I do nope not.
exploitative Bovrils for reactionary neo-conservatives
sounds like the opposite of
guilt free lattes for lefty handwringers
so I'd probably see it as that. Unless I was just looking for insults.
It's possible to not be a member of either group of extremists, you know.
How about builders tea for commoners/middle class wannabes?
I'm 99.999999999% sure they will sell tea too.
We could argue about the politics of the people involved, but referring to them as "handwringers" is a bit unfair - doesn't that usually refer to people who moan but do nothing?
These people have already committed a substantial amount of time, money and effort into something that will have real social benefits. More people on bikes = a good thing, right?
We could argue about the politics of the people involved, but referring to them as "handwringers" is a bit unfair - doesn't that usually refer to people who moan but do nothing?
The comment wasn't directed at the people organising it. It was an intended stereotype for potential clientelle.
What would you prefer, a cafe full of people moaning about how immigrants have ruined everything and gay used to mean happy and carefree? 🙂
How about a bit of both? Spice things up a bit wouldn't it? 😉
We could have a STW style [s]fight[/s] debate night. Perhaps with a cage.
I really hope the atmosphere of the place isn't like STW. The topics of conversation will hopefully range a bit wider than tyres, vasectomies and why trail centres are for n00bs.
OK. I'm with Mr A in his corner of the cage. We might not be straight there - might be doing things to help other people first. You start without us, we'll join in when we get there.
OK. I'm with Mr A in his corner of the cage. We might not be straight there - might be doing things to help other people first. You start without us, we'll join in when we get there.
He might not want you. And I haven't said what side I'm on yet. What makes you think that you do more for people than I do?
In the North this bunch would be labeled as beggars.Down south of course there innovaters providing a public service.What a joke.
monkeycmonkeydo, this is very sudden but... I think I love you.
Hey Mr A. Some of these guys on STW need to chill out. I think the cafe is a great idea and I'll be heading down to support it. Shame there aren't more people willing to put time, effort and money into things like this.
Oh that'll be directed at the moaning northerners.