[Closed] Negative rise bars

I had the same thoughts. Risers don't have the bends in the same plane so flipping it upside down will mean that the section of bar that you actually hold will tend to drop off towards the ends rather than rise when the right way up.

I did wonder if the Syntace comment about the stickers was just a joke (they're German, aren't they? 🙂 )

Kinda, there's still only one angle of the bars where the two grips would intersect in the middle, it's just with risers you have to define the angles in 3 dimensions as the rise bit has to be vertical, otherwise you'd need a different stem. Think about it, you don't set a flat bar flat to the ground do you, the ends still point up.

So on those the ends just point up as normal, just from a point a few mm below the level of the stem.

Ritchey make some invertible offset flat bars that effectively have 5mm of raise in the clam area. Presubably minimal offset means the stem lengths unaffected whichever way you rotate them.

Answer's 20/20 claims to be flippable, if you want another to look at.

Hmmm.. thinking about it some more (until I can get home and hold some risers 🙂 ). I reckon that you could fit them upside down and have the handle sections still rising up rather than falling but you'd have the rise section lying near horizontal rather than vertical, defeating the point of fitting a 'nevative riser' bar in the first place - eg you'd just be shortening the position rather than lowering it.

Just been rotating a bar I pulled off the shelf and it appears that if you mount a standard bar upside down and set it so that the angle is good for the hands the grip areas become set quite a long way back. ie the equivalent of having a much shorter or negative length stem.

Pretty much what Clubber just said.

At what point does a negative rise bar become a drop bar?

When you stop smiling

(caveat for the sensitive, grumpy roadies - I'm a roadie too - it's a joke)

Mostly balanced - glad to hear that I had that right.

I used to have bars like that on my 1973 Raleigh ...
I thought it looked cool ...