[Closed] My new bike (S/H 5 Spot content!!)

I got a 2nd hand frame and the back end was the same{stiction}, got rid of it in the end I just never got on with it but couldn't put my finger on why

Im sure they just need a good clean up as there is no knocking or creaking !!

The bushings in dw 5 spot do have more stiction than bearings and can take forever to break in. Obviously check their all clean, check the torqs, the one for the main piviot has been lessened now by turner so check on their web site or contact them. You can tune the bushings with emery cloth, you should be able find details on the turner forum of mtb.com or failing that turner themselves will tell you how to do it if you ask. You can also buy allegedly slicker bushing made by push from tf tuned.

Sorry for the lack of details I'm typing this on my phone!

If you undo the shock bolts you are supposed to be able to depress the rear with one hand on the saddle.

My Flux has always had more stiction than that but rides nice and plush. Bearing action under load is the key thing.

Use a large punch or rounded end of a large hex key and a mallet to nock out the pivots if they are tight.

You can also put those enduro needle bearings in the shock mounts to improve small bump performance even more - you only really need to put one in the top shock mount as the bottom wont rotate much.

Is there a guide anywhere which explains how to strip them down then?

Yes turner website q & a's. Might be in the horst link section but the process is the same

anyone got a short stem they want to sell?

There's a 50mm Easton Havoc on the classifieds?

have same (problem) if it is a problem thinking about getting rid of as i like things to run nice and smooth

If the back end won't drop on its own with the shock out then something isn't set correctly. Main pivot bolts are known to mushroom from being torqued to highly. That can cause excessive stiction. If that's the case contact turner even if your not the first owner, there is a fair chance they will sort you out. Some times its just one pivot that's a little too tight. With the shock out go round and loosen them one at a time to see if that's the case. Honestly if its so stiff that you want to sell it something isnt set right. The bushings are never goingto be as slick as a new bearing unloaded, but its not something you should really notice in use and bushings are said to have other benifits. A custom shock and volume tune could also allow you to run lower pressures which is only going to help. Best bet is a bit of reasurch on the turner forum of mtb.com and contacting turner directly.

cheers bud this is a brand new front end with a new build kit do they need time to wear in?

You can also buy allegedly slicker bushing made by push from tf tuned

I have just got some of them, the rear has a lot less stiction now.

Wiht the turner bushes the rear swingarm would not drop under it's own weight with no shock in place.

It drops now with the new push bushes.

Cheers all going to give it a strip down and a clean when . replace the gear cables!!

What do you think then did I get a good deal?

seems a good deal, I paid that for my frame!!!!!

Has Funkrodent got 15 foot long arms? Thats some serious stemage 😉

Ha he is a tall lad like!

These bushings will be a good upgrade if you have the cash

http://www.tftunedshox.com/Catalogue/PUSH/PUSH/PUSH-Parts/Turner-Pivot-Bushings-2

I have not purchased them, but good feedback here:

http://forums.mtbr.com/turner/push-linkage-bushings-829697.html

Just be aware that all new bushings take a good amount of time to bed in, and the difference is very noticeable once bed in from what I have read.

I find the back lower DW Link bushings to be a little tighter than the others but that has happened with 2 kits, so think it might be normal.

One thing for sure you will enjoy the frame. Been out on mine 3 times now, and the frames are spot on 🙂

As for cleaning bushings. Very easy 🙂

P.S WTF was the previous owner thinking with that stem. Can only think they were 7ft tall.

One more thing, the build looks great, and great value 🙂

Great bike - what travel does the fork have - looks a bit lower than the usual 150 you get with those Revs - unless of course it's duel position.

empy they are meant to be 150mm?

anyway of telling?

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Measure the travel?

very good?

i know how to do that br i was just wondering if there were any markings on them that would say?

No markings. Just measure the travel. Looks like 130 to me, which means they might have a spacer in to reduce travel. The 5 Spot is better suited to 150mm (at least that's what I've got mine set up with).

they might need some air in them as they are as soft as ... at the moment.

how do i check the spacer thing then ??

EDIT... Just been out and checked them and they measure 135mm.

I pulled down on the lowers and it extends quite easily without resistance so im guessing the nee some more air in the positive chamber ??

They have a + on top of the left leg and a neg air thing on the bottom of the left leg so im guessing they are dual air?

Nice bike. And a good price. Enjoy. 🙂

At least seeing the front end of that stem come round the corner will give the Mrs a chance to get the kettle on.

Ive just bought a 70mm white one to wang on it just to see what it looks like !

Don't get too hung up on stcktion, if there is any doubt strip the bushes give them a clean and lube.
They take a while to bed in and free up properly, probably about the same time the average set of roller bearings last in a "normal" frame!
Just ride it. It will be great! ( well once you get a 70mm stem)!!

Cheers for the help.

It feels like it has a lot more stiction than the 09 one i had but apparently the bushes etc where updated for the 2010 model.

When my new inner cables come i will strip the back end off and clean it all up and put some fresh grease on/in it!

The forks are 2012 dual air 150mm..... just not got the right air pressure in !!

btw bikes only been used for 15 rides so the bushes could still need bedding in!

My dw 5spot feels a little stiff when the shocks off but rides fine

You can also buy allegedly slicker bushing made by push from tf tuned
I have just got some of them, the rear has a lot less stiction now.

Wiht the turner bushes the rear swingarm would not drop under it's own weight with no shock in place.

It drops now with the new push bushes.

I take it these just replace the Turner ones and they dont need any modifications etc?

got any pics?

Just checked the fork pressures..

neg was more than pos hence why i had lost a couple of cm of travel....

however now set correctly(excuse the mudguards but im riding to work tomorrow..)

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looks much better now and the front feels a bit higher too.

saddle looks well !

Looks better on that colour frame.

Seeing as its a Turner and seeing as its my new bike, here's a piccy of my new Flux.

Couldn't help myself. Sorry 😛

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yep it does cheers mate !!

Are you bothering getting a grease gun for the zerk's Renton?

The only reason I ask is that I've got conventional 90 degree & straight grease fittings that I screw in mine and just use a standard grease gun with flexi hose.

If you ever need any give me a shout, I'm sure I've spares lying around !

Stu

Actually mate im still trying to find out the best option as the turner gun is about 40 quid !!

what have you got and what grease do you use mate as my bushes need lubing big style i think !!

I have the proper stuff. Superlube Syncolon. Don't drop silly money on this stuff, give me a shout if you after some!

I clean the Zerks with a brush to get the crud off then remove them and screw in a standard nipple. Simples.

I could actually leave the standard nipples in I think. Maybe a better idea as you can get the plastic nipple covers ( ooer ) off eBay for pennies. No more cleaning prior to greasing!

I don't know about the 5 spot but my flux zerks are threaded so they screw out easy.
I went down this route as I already had a standard grease gun with flexi hose and there's no way I'm dropping 40 sheets on a daft grease gun mate.

Yep pretty sure my zerks are threaded too.

Wherlabours are you bud as I was wondering if for a small donation if I could send you a syringe so you could fill it with a bit of grease so I can service my bushings.

errs

Steve

Actually mate ygm!!

Nice bike at all

Well just a little update.

Ive took the back end off and gave it a good greasing and it has improved thing quite a lot however I still have a couple of pivots that are massively tight, to the point where I had to use a soft face hammer to insert them into the bushes and I needed to use a long arm allen key to turn them.

Ive been reading up on the pivot mod on mtbr where you basically take some emery cloth to the pivot and try and remove some of the material to loosen them up, so Im going to give that a go sometime this week.

Ive put some air in the forks and now they read the correct travel which is nice.

I have also changed the tyres around so now I have the x king on the rear and a new mountain king on the front.

The last thing I have done is change the stem to a 70mm one, initial thoughts are that it may be to short but I need to have a play and also fit my new bars at work tomorrow.

here she is so far............

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cheers

Steve

I have a 2011 5 spot and after a good years riding i still have no hankering after a new bike which says a lot. I usually have a serious case of upgradeitis. 70mm stem is spot on. Maintenance is a breeze with the zerk fittings.

Mudguard has to go though. 🙂

I'm seriously considering one as my next frame.

They look and ride great. Need to find a small frame.

Although at 5 ft 7 would i be better on a medium?

Mosey,i am 5 ft 7 and a medium is spot on for me.

Ah brilliant, looking at the size specs the small does look really short.

I've only tried a small 05 frame so I've still to try a medium.

It's going to be a present for my 30th and graduating my PGCE so I can get something special. I just can't get out of my head how much I enjoyed the Orange 5 I test rode..

Yep they are quite short!

I went fir an xl

Gawjuss.

I'd be tempted to try the crud catcher attached just under the seat clamp though. Dunno, just looks a bit high up on the sp.