34.4lb!! Ok so its was intended as a strong build rather than light, I'm sure the poverty spec sram gx 12 speed isnt light, nor the xfusion metric forks, or saint brakes, or stans flow rims plus it has a sprinking of mud, but come on! Maybe I have put too much stans fluid in the tyres.
EDIT Airdrop frame.
Anyone else had a shock when they weighted theirs?
what frame?
i was a little miffed when my Pivot 429SL came in at 27lbs (its an xc race bike, blurb said sub 23lb build possible) but then its got a 170mm reverb, fairly porky tyres and 120mm 34s.
still ****ing rapid though
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34lbs which is aaa lot considering it's 135mm of travel and the money in it. It's got carbon and XTR bits, surely that means it has to be sub-30. I just look at the places where I could ave weight and realise I don't want to sacrifice the performance so the other option is simply to get fitter.
I just look at the places where I could ave weight and realise I don't want to sacrifice the performance so the other option is simply to get fitter.
This! Former 36lb coil/ coil giant reign. Current 32lb orange segment 🙂
On one carbon bars save 100g, wait until they are on sale.
Slx cranks, saved 200g over the cheap stock SRAM ones.
Better saddle, wtb volt pro was 100g saved over the OEM I've
Wheels are probably the next bit
Flow mk3s are an impressive strength/weight/price option
Or light bicycle carbons and some posher hubs with triple butted spokes, but getting pricey...
What you need is an older heavier bike with dh tyres on to ride regularly, then your 34lb bike will feel super light.
What you need is an [s]older heavier bike with dh tyres on[/s] ebike with the power off to ride regularly, then your 34lb bike will feel super light.ftfy
Low weight is so over-rated on mountain bikes. And mountain bikers! 😉
It's not that heavy. My Carbon specialized enduro is only just under 32lb once you have decent tyres on.
That's not particularly heavy.
And you need keep the weight of every bit down to keep the overall weight down - as you can reel off a good few things that are a bit porky, I assume everything else is too. One or two light bits aren't going to lose much weight without compromising other things.
Unless you are a racing snake with visible abs the weight of your bike is inconsequential
Sounds slightly overweight.
I have a similar spec (X-Fusion sweeps, Flow mk3, Reverb, 10 speed SRAM X9 drivetrain with XT cranks, Zee brakes, On-One carbon bars) Rocket 275 that comes in at 31lb pretty much dead on. So, either the Airdrop frame is heavy, or that low-end 12 speed drivetrain is adding a fair bit?
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Unless you are a racing snake with visible abs the weight of your bike is inconsequential
But then this.
My orange 5! 31.4lb
Sounds about right without carbon frame / cranks / bar, machined Sram cassette and trick hubs. You won't notice on the down and will soon get fitter pushing it on the up 🙂 Check your pedals - can easily add an extra 100g.
Where is the weight coming from?
gx 12 speed isnt light, nor the xfusion metric forks, or saint brakes, or stans flow rims
GX isn't exactly heavy in the scheme of things, flows are sensible etc.
Simple ways to look at it.
Spreadsheet of every part, not everything more expensive is lighter.
Work out what isn't performing well, you want a performance upgrade to go with a tiny weight saving
https://www.commencal-store.co.uk/meta-am-v42-origin-yellow-2017-c2x19922653
This with a swap to hope E4's and Thomson bar/Stem with Reverb and tubeless tips the scales at about 14.5kg/32lb with a fairly base spec so your hiding some weight somewhere
My transition suppressor with a coil and front mudguard is under 32lb. No carbon, heavy tyres, 11sp XT and saint brakes (203mm f&r).
Sure your scales are correct?
Obviously Monsieur is sub 10% body fat as well no? 😆
What you need is a set of those scales so often used only posters on here that make any bike weigh around 10-15% leas than it actually does 
I will wash it today and try again. It felt heavy yesterday, I hadn't really noticed before. I have ridden a V10 that felt lighter and this is before I fit dual ply tyres.
Airdrop frame large
Fox X2 air shock
Xfusion metric fork
Saint brakes with 200mm rotors
SRAM gx 12speed transmission.
Canfield pedals
Thompson elite covert dropper
Nukeprood ti saddle
Flow rims with hope pro2 hubs
Rental Fatbar
Hope stem
There is nothing in the spec I would want to change. It is what it is. Just expected a few lb less. I thought everyone had a 28lb bike after reading some threads!
I'm too scared to weigh my process 153! I can pick it up to put it in my van and it gets me to the top eventually! That's all I worry about. Not having a belly could be the best weight saver I could make. Wouldn't cost either as it means less pies!
What tyres are you running there?
Nothing screams heavy on the list
I thought everyone had a 28lb bike after reading some threads
Normally those are the ones with the special magic sales.
That airdrop sounds really heavy!
I'm on a Bird Aeris 145 in ML - weighs around the 32lb mark (using luggage scales - weighed my road bike for working out accuracy of the scales and are about right).
I've not got a light build in any way - RS Yari 160mm travel, SRAM GX 11 speed with standard cranks, DT Swiss E1900 30mm wheels, Maxxis Exo 2.35 wide dhr2 / Aggressor tyres running tubeless, standard scoop saddle, Brand X dropper (heavy) etc.
Only place it feels heavy / draggy is on the road and smooth fire roads - everywhere else it climbs better than the lighter Boardman Pro FS I had before.
This has cheered me right up! Started a new build yesterday with a Rocket 650B frame, and when I'd (nearly) finished, I moved it out of the work stand and the first thought was "**** me, that's heavy!".... 😉
Despite the Mickey taking when I claimed my 160mm travel FS was 26lbs I'm going to open myself up to ridicule and post its weight again today.
Difference being I was diagnosed with heart failure this summer and have been given by the NHS a fancy pants calibrated set to monitor my fluid retention and weight each day.
Results later.
What you need is a set of those scales so often used only posters on here that make any bike weigh around 10-15% leas than it actually does
Yeah, magic scales - even better when the spec comes with it 🙂
@deviant the piss taking wasn't so much the weight but the very strange compromises you made to get there
take the peddles off..
my next bike is heavier than i thought, hence me holding off buying it.
would love a 130mm/120mm full sus at the 12-12.5kg, but its showing 13.5kg
alot of farmers gates to fling it over, hence i'd prefer the lighter bike..
My Nicolai AC 29er is just north of 32lbs with a smattering of carbon (bars, cranks, rims), but offsetting that is a pair of 950g tyres, a heavy-ish Shimano cassette, and the Avalanche cartridge in the Pike adds another 200g or so. Considering the hammering it takes I wouldn’t like to swap any of the current parts, which are all fit-for-purpose, although I do have a new XX1 cassette to go on which will drop 150g or so.
Meh, how does it ride?
Good = excellent, carry on
Bad = look at why and how to fix (probably not weight related)
I've got MTBs ranging from 18lb to 34lb, they're good for different things and weigh what they weigh... The heavier ones are normally more fun!
You say dual-ply tyres but not which brand. I use Specialized tyre with the Grid casing. Tough enough to take a beating but much lighter than a Maxxis dual ply DH tyre or similar.
Oh, and OP, any chance of some Airdrop Edit pictures?
@deviant the piss taking wasn't so much the weight but the very strange compromises you made to get there
Yeah, I've changed some things around, the sub 100g carbon roadie saddle has gone on the road bike and I've got a normal Charge Spoon on it now, the grips are mountain bike specific now too (Renthals) and I've ditched the carbon bars for Renthals too, also ditched the plastic Nukeproof pedals for metal Superstar Nanos so I expect an increase.....still holding out with no dropper post though!
I was quite pleasantly surprised when the fancy Park scales at my LBS weighed my burly built Spitfire at 31.15lbs, inc pedals. I then realised it was 31lbs 15oz. 😉
I should add, the only light things are the Pikes, the SixC bars, and the XT 11-36 cassette. Everything else could lose some weight by throwing money at it - but much would get less tough too...
That's not a bad weight, though it pains me that bikes are getting heavier and heavier these days, my T130C RS with upgraded carbon bar and lighter wheels is still over 30lbs with pedals. I managed to get my old Foxy Carbon down to just under 27lbs with Next SL's, Nobby Nics and superlight Easton bar and stem, which for a bike with a Fox 36 wasn't bad!
Meh, how does it ride?Good = excellent, carry on
Bad = look at why and how to fix (probably not weight related)
^ this
I made the mistake of weighing my bikes a few weeks ago – led to many wasted hours of extensive browsing for end-of-season bargain frames/bike.
Genesis High Latitude: XL, standard, SS Nano flats - 31.9lb / 14.45kg
Yeti SB95: size L, Pikes, 1x11 XT, SLX discs, carbon bars and cranks, Hope/WTB i25 rims, 2.3” EXOs, M520s - 32.2lb / 14.6kg
Enduro 29er: size L, Pikes, 1x11 XT, Zee brakes, stock bars, SLX cranks, Hope/Roval rims, 2.5” EXOs, DMR Vaults - 33.1lb / 15.0kg
I was disappointed with the Yeti’s weight given the relatively nice build, especially only being 400g lighter than my beefier built Enduro. But I’m happy with how they ride so not planning to weigh them again if I can help it!
All weighed on cheap eBay fishing scales, not expecting great accuracy but all weights should be relative to one another at least.
my next bike is heavier than i thought, hence me holding off buying it.
would love a 130mm/120mm full sus at the 12-12.5kg, but its showing 13.5kg
They do exist, my Fuel Ex 140/130 does actually weigh 12kg with pedals. I've raced some DH and Enduro's with it in that spec too. The wheels won't be long for this world if I carry on in reality - but they are fine for gooning around, just not racing. If I run something more sensible (alloy rims & Grid tyres) its a whole 1kg heavier (quite a lot, just in the wheels!).
Think my hardtail is close to being heavier, which is fairly amusing 🙂
Have you thought of going 26"? Save a few grams of each wheel right there.
Oh, and OP, any chance of some Airdrop Edit pictures?
Arghhh I will try.
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I've a med Airdrop, with Pikes, mostly XTR bits, saint brakes on 180 rotors maxxis 3c minions on mavic. It's about 32-33lbs-ish. If yours is 34lbs that's what? About 7% heavier...
My "Giveatoss-o-meter" wouldn't even register.
I think that means we found the heavy bit then... It's the part that holds all the others together
Nearly a kg F+RSaint brakes with 200mm rotors
700g?Thompson elite covert dropper
Never fit anything NPNukeprood ti saddle
0.5 kg with lock-onsRental Fatbar
It all adds up as they say
Just built up an On One Codeine.
It ain't light either. 33lbs with pedals.
Revelation RC3
Mavic Crossmax XL wheels
GX-11 drivetrain
Reverb
Maxxis HRII and Ardent
Easton Haven Carbon bars
XT brakes 180 / 160mm
I can't see how I could make it much lighter without throwing serious money at it. I'm not really fussed though. It rides great. It feels like cheating on the descents and it gets to the top eventually!
XT Cassettes aren't light? but light ones are spendy...
Weight sounds ok, just pedal it
It's the part that holds all the others together
maybe, but I would hazard a guess that the pike will be at least half a kilo or so lighter than the x fusion.
still won't make a massive difference though (only in your head)
That's my point, a better/lighter spec on a size down and your still hitting 32/33. The OP ain't going to shift much without a lot of expense and the lowest weight isn't far off . I doubt I can shift much off my commencal without spending serious cash and then it's not going very far below 14kg.
ah, right I see what you mean, yep you're right.
your forks are pretty heavy, could save 400g going to a pike but TBH its not really worth it. most I could save on mine would be about a lb going to a carbon bar and carbon cranks but its not worth the cash and I like my bars.
That Airdrop would look a lot cleaner without the rim decals
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has saints and Minions tyres now
The bikes are never going to be lightweight xc whippets so as long as you can get it up hill and you're having fun going down who cares?
I'm too scared to weigh my process 153!
My Process 134DL is 14.1kg / 31 lbs which doesn't seem too bad! 🙂
(Stock apart from tubeless conversion and Nukeproof Electron pedals - have put a 203mm rotor on the front since. Tyres are ~850g each)
The clue is in the title I think. Enduro bike/weapon.
If it was a trail bike, or indeed used as a trail bike, that is a different matter.
Enduro Bike? One for doing 40-60km days with 2-3000m of climbing in a day?
34lb is pretty heavy.
But if its a heavy frame then theres not much you can do. What is the manufacturers quoted weight for the frame?
A heavy frame is putting me off swapping my orbea rallon to a nicolai geometron. Orbea frame weighs 3600g with shock,headset,axle and seat clamp, g16 frame weighs 3500g without shock. I dont fancy gaining half a kilo.
Maybe i shouldnt care though...
The V1 Airdrop frame is pretty heavy I used to have one too, I think the frame as standard with the monarch plus shock weighs in around 8lbs.
My full build was around the 32lb mark. That was mainly an XT build with Arch MK3 wheels, Maxxis tyres and a Rockshox Yari. It weighed a wee bit less when I had an xfusion sweep fork on it but felt better with the Yari. Only time I really felt the weight was on hike a bikes.
The xfusion metric fork is quite heavy, if you switched to a Pike you would lose a pound in weight but is it worth it if you like how the Metric feels.
My (26") Five and (carbon) fatbike both come in at 31 lb (size large, with dropper, pedals etc). Previous (steel) fatbike was 35 lb and I did find the weight annoying, but only when lifting it (onto car, over fences or just hike-a-bike) to be honest. Riding along (up or down) I wouldn't say the weight made any noticeable difference.
If the frame really is 8lb then thats not overly weighty, its just a combination of other bits.
The saint brakes and 200mm rotors will be a fair chunk. As will the dropper .
If the rims are the mark 1 or 2 flows they arent the lightest, the new v3 flows are pretty good.
Drivetrain is heavy.
Forks are heavy.
Etc etc.
I think youll be spending a lot to get it much lower, but it should be possible without compromising performance. Prob not worth the money though, youll be way into diminishing returns.
My orbea rallon is 31lb, with the following spec
Lyrik 170mm fork
Bos kirk shock
Hope e4 brakes
200mm icetech rotor
180mm icetech rotor
Flow mk3 rear rim
Super star carbon am front rim
Xtr 9020 cranks
Sram x01 1195 cassette
Xtr 9000 mech and shifter
Renthal fatbar lite bars
Reverb 125mm dropper
Charge spoon saddle.
Raceface atlas pedals
Spesh butcher control 2.3 tyre
Spech slaughter grid 2.3 tyre
I've just built a Banshee Prime with a lyric and gx eagle. Built for the kind of riding the Prime is designed for, it comes in at 32.5lbs.
Given that it's better for its intended use than its ancestor, a turner Sultan built beefy, that weighed 1lb less, I'm satisfied that it's weight is reasonable.
For those that say gx eagle is heavy, it's lighter that the current XT, but heavier than every other eagle group set.
This is making me feel quite good, my 6 inch travel, 29er, geometron, weighs in at 31.5lb with no particular effort to make it light.
I like the Jared Graves theory, you build up the bike how it needs to be, and it weighs what it weighs.
I like the Jared Graves theory, you build up the bike how it needs to be, and it weighs what it weighs.
Exactly!
That's basically my approach to building bikes.
I like the Jared Graves theory, you build up the bike how it needs to be, and it weighs what it weighs.
aye, makes sense. The bike I had before the Airdrop was a carbon Yeti. In comparison it was easy on the ups, I think I'm about a minute slower on a regular climb on the airdrop. I'm not racing, so who cares...On the down however...I'm miles happier on the Airdrop, it's much more stable and 30-40 seconds faster on everything without really pushing it, which is exactly what I wanted.
I do like the Graves theory and it's a good one but remember he has been sponsored for a very long time so it's mostly a decision between XT and XTR 😉
It's inevitable really, ten years ago we were all riding 160mm all-mountain bikes with triple cranksets, no dropper posts and DH inner tubes which tipped the scales at 35lb on a bad day. Some guys even went for coil suspension which pushed the weight up still further.
These days, we demand dropper posts, wide (and strong) handlebars, tubeless tyres with reinforced casings, larger wheels, stronger frames and we seem to ride bikes with more than one pivot point necessitating several sets of bearings.
I daren't weigh my ally Stumpjumper 29er. I know that I'd be very upset if I did.
I'd think about other places you can save weight if it bothers you - Camelbak with normal gubbins I found added 2kg compared to just a tube and pump so I only take the latter on local spins (with a bottle) nowadays.
Everyone on here could save 1kg off their body weight (even the racing snakes) - so that's 3kg or 6.6lb saved straight away. (Weight bothers me but only within reason and limited funds!)
I had a large prophet built with pikes and light bicycle dh rims, e13 tires and gx. It weighed nearly 35lb and I found it s drag on long days. Just gone for 29er fuel ex which has Easton heist wheels (cheap on offer), factory 34's at 140, hans damf/ magic mary and the same gx, transfer dropper, it weighs 30 on the nose and I really can tell the difference weight wise. I ride exactly the same stuff in the peak no slower and prefer the fuel on really tight steep tracks.
Got my 2016 Enduro weighed at a race last year by Trev Worsey for an article on Enduro MTB. It was on the Park tool scales and it was 35lbs. That was with a spare inner tube attached to the frame and a full water bottle. Definitely some interesting weights on the bikes that made the final article
http://enduro-mtb.com/en/poc-scottish-enduro-series-round-6-ae-rumble-jungle/2/
Saving Kgs is easy and cheap, saving grams is hard and costs lots of money.
Ultimately though, the bike's got to do its job. A mate is obsessed with the weight of his road bike and is constantly looking to save weight: "my new bike weighs 6Kg". Unfortunately he's not exactly light and keeps breaking things and wonders why.
@philjunior - most people (including myself) could lose 10Kg off their body weight which would make far more of a difference. Some could probably lose the weight of their bike plus all the kit they take.
I weighed all mine a while ago. Conclusions I came to
1) Mojo3 was under 30lbs. It should be. Lots of carbon.I could get it lower but it's pretty much perfect so it'd just be throwing cash away and potentially making it less perfect
2) WTB scraper rims are heavy. My Stache is a bit porky for a HT.
3) Chubby tyres aren't any heavier than a proper 2.3. The biggest difference are the Rims. Ibis are light. Hope/WTB aren't.
4) My SolarisMax confirmed the 'pick it up' test as the lightest. It's also the fastest climber in the local woods but wouldn't be in rocky terrain.
5) Weight is largely irrelevant in terms of how they ride.
I tend to stick with Rockshox/Fox/Hope/RaceFace/Shimano at an XT type of level. Always a compromise- Yari is quite heavy but brilliant for the price. Zees weigh more than XT but I much prefer them. Hope hubs aren't that light but they're easy to fix.
Basically the weight really doesn't matter within the range of bikes I have. I did pedal my old SX Trail on an XC ride once and it was hateful. But any of these are fine, and it's down to me to put some effort in and stay away from the cake aisle.
I really like the way light bikes ride. Despite being a bit hefty myself.
Best bike I've had was a SC Blur TR Carbon I modded to run ~140mm rear travel with 150 Pikes on it. Running lots of carbon bits it was 25.4lbs. It was incredible.
I sold that for a burlier Nomad C with the same kit. That came out sub 27lbs.
I've even had a V10c come out at 33.5lbs.
Then I sold the fleet and bought a weighty NP Mega, it just weighed so much, about 33lbs iirc.
Needless to say I sold that and have just bought a Ghost frame to build up, it's almost done and looking like it will be sub 30lbs, hopefully 29.
It is possible without carbon frames, but they definitely make the difference!
Enduro Bike? One for doing 40-60km days with 2-3000m of [s]climbing[/s] walking in a day?
FIFY
Seriously though, most people I see with Enduro bikes seem to be walking up the hills. Not sure if that's the bike or the riders fault though.
Or maybe if you rode smoother then a trail bike would be just as okay an Enduro one?
Most enduro bikes are surely designed to at least winch up hills rather than walk- they aren't DH bikes.
My Aeris climbs pretty well - especially when it's steep and technical. I'm the weak climbing link in terms of fitness - but it reasonably regularly gets ridden up Cafell at Cwmcarn which to me is a big hill to cycle up.
@whitestone - I know, I didn't feel very fat but lost >10kgs since starting to ride to work (it's probably more like 15). I could still lose >>1kg without being unhealthily skinny.
My airdrop will get up most things, I just need to press the pedals harder than on my old Yeti. This probably does me no harm TBH.
My Santa Cruz Hightower CC with...
135mm Monarch RT3
150mm Pikes
Pure C33 Carbon rims/Hope Pro4 hubs/CX sapim spokes
Hope Tech X2 brakes/ float rotors
Six C carbon bars
XT single ring crankset/ Hope 44T Cassette/XT shifter/XT mech
Fox Transfer post
Rocket Ron/Nobby Nic both Snakeskin/tubeless
DMR Vault Magnesium pedals
SDG Duster Ti saddle
On my unscientific and non calibrated scales (first me then me with bike and deduction made) it comes in at 28lbs , pleasantly surprised , however I wouldn't be surprised its not very accurate but in the ballpark area. I however weigh...........lots so its of little consequence in the overall scheme of things.
Nothing to add but that's a lovely looking bike mate!!!
I've read comments on here that the Airdrop frame is portly, but then the numbers quoted don't sound too bad.
I thought my Process 134 was a little lardy until I got it on a park tools scale, came out at 30.09lbs, that's full XT, Pikes & Reverb, carbon bars, hope hubs/stans rims and conti barons. Turns out the extra weight was on me, so shedding that has made the world of difference, Process now feels very swift.
Ive just weighed my large Codeine spec as follows....
pikes
sram 1 x 11
xt brakes
spesh dropper
hope/wtb wheels
spesh tyres set up tubeless
easton haven stem
easton havoc 800mm downhill bars
few hope bits
it came out at 33lbs which Im quite surprised at as thought it was heavier.
I had no idea how much mine weighed, so I've just chucked it on an old knackered spring scale. it only goes up to 27lbs and mine is off the scale - I'm guessing about 28/29 lbs.
That's a large Santa Cruz Blur LTc tricked with what I thought was seriously light kit. Ok there's a fairly beefy Fox 36 fork and Minions front and rear, but I did expect it to be a bit lighter.
I had to check the road bike (17 lbs) to cheer myself up.