[Closed] MTB Movie: The Untold British Story

I will buy a copy as soon as it's available. Shame I missed the kickstarter

It's on show tomorrow in Llangadog. See you there folks 🙂

[i]"along the money" [/i] err... that should be "along the way"

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Just watched my supporter copy. Lovely, lovely film. Brought back a lot of memories, although my 7 year old was rolling his eyes at me slow-advancing the Malverns lake leaping bits to try and spot myself in the crowd, and the endless 'Daddy was there' comments.

I think you could almost make a series of the stuff that wasn't in there, but what was, was really well chosen. The JMC bits were particularly touching, as I remember the summer of '95 very well.

cheddarchallenged...
"Anyway despite the RC100 omission the film's definitely worth a look for anyone who wants to know about how our hobby / sport / passion came about".

I agree.

However, squeezing the history of British mountain biking into 70 minutes was bound to result in lots of great stories being left out.

Not only the story of Pace, but also Ridgback, Saracen, Orange etc, etc. Then there are the stories of the mountain bike adventurers like the Crane cousins, the storys of the dirt freeriding and dirt jump scene etc. Even Cyclocross and how the big British companies like Raleigh missed the begining of the wave and lost the market to the likes of Specialized, Muddy Fox and Saracen?

But if they had tried cover too much it could have so easily been disjointed and unwatchable, not an engaging narrative that somehow manages to capture the essence of UK mountain biking.

Also, hats off to them for finding and getting the rights to use some remarkable archive footage and photos when they only had the budget of an independent production company.

What we now need is the book of the film!

In a book you could include all the UK MTB brands, nerdy stuff and backstories etc. That would be wonderful as a historical record, but it wouldn't capture the reality and passion as well as this film does.

Is this an online 'movie' or DVD purchase, from where? Id like to watch this too.

"along the money" err... that should be "along the way"

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The chap who invented auto-correct died last week, his funfair is next monkey

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My understanding is it will be available online soon (?). Those that funded the project get to see it first as they should.

I think it will be available at the end of this week and I'd be very surprised if it's release wasn't promoted on this site since Singletrack mag appear to have been very involved

You can rent or download it from here:

Any chance of it being available on DVD at some point ? I'd like to watch it on a big screen .

While Vimeo works very well, can I suggest looking at allowing SteepEdge to host it too.

Think a lot more people would see it then.

Just my thoughts.

I've just watched it off Vimeo. Really good, enjoyed that a lot. 🙂

Just watched it on the big screen via the playstation. Really enjoyed it, a great piece of story telling and now I fancy bike packing to watch the lights of Manchester at night!

Just watched it too, really caught the essence of how it all came about.

Agreed that there were/are loads of stories that had to be passed over due to time/budget constraints but then it is an independent film. The foot-and-mouth crisis being the catalyst for the trail centre boom, small UK tech companies leading the way, etc but that wouldn't have fitted with the narrative.

Feels weird having your lifetime hobby as part of a documentary 😆

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Any chance of it being available on DVD at some point ? I'd like to watch it on a big screen .

I downloaded it, stuck it on a USB stick & watched it on our TV

Surely the omissions could pave the way to 'Mountain Biking- The Untold British Story Part 2'?

Please please please please please please please...

failure to include Pace, but also Ridgback, Saracen, Orange

Isn't that more to do with them probably not stumping up sponsorship money than not enough space in 70 mins to fit them in?

..perhaps they want the story to remain untold.

I'd rather like to see this in a cinema but it seems that the research into the sport for the film must have revealed that nobody in Scotland is interested in mountain biking.....................

[quote=Orange Crush ]I'd rather like to see this in a cinema but it seems that the research into the sport for the film must have revealed that nobody in Scotland is interested in mountain biking.....................
If you'd have organised a showing (like others did) then I'm sure you might have got another 2 or 3 folk along.

Any chance of it being available on DVD at some point ? I'd like to watch it on a big screen .

no problem with the big screen thing here (smart TVs, kodi raspberry pi setups, blu ray players with USB etc can handle that..) but I like having a "thing" I want a disc. blu ray or dvd.. i don't want to spend a tenner on a digital copy (I can't do the rent thing with my setup) than another 15 or more down the line to get that too.

since it wasnt a goal in the crowdfunding campaign it doesn't look likely though 🙁

Quality movie

Watched it last night with a 20 odd people, half of which were old school riders whilst the rest were new to biking over the last 5 years and everyone loved it

Very impressive and a massive well done to the people who made it 🙂

Watched it on Vimeo the other night, thought it was really good and well worth £3.99.

Thanks for all the great comments.
Truth is we just could not get all the history in and that was deffo not down to who paid for sponsorship . Orange were one of the main sponsors and didn't get their Tushingham story in: omissions were all about what we felt we could tell that created a compelling narrative across the 70 mins. Indeed there could well be room for a part two if this goes well but is it a huge task as an indie film company to do this kind of thing with all of us taking a hit on what it costs us to do it.
BUT well worth it!
As to screenings , these will build over next few months , picture house cinema is looking to set up some cinema screenings and indie cinemas are reaching out too PLUS you can get in touch to do you own screening as well in Scotland or anywhere across the world.
The reason why the VOD has come out first is that we need to get some money back in to help build the profile of the film.
Thanks for all the support.
Pip Piper ( co director and producer)

PS...if the download sells well we might well do a DVD with some cool extras on as well...

Purchased the download last night, worth every penny.

Maybe Blu Ray given you've got in in HD, but smaller market and higher cost I guess.

But download is fine. Full purchase and get the HD download, stuck it on my NAS, play on my big screen TV. No need for discs.

I enjoyed it - 70mins wasnt long enough! Loved some of the archive footage.

We've vaguely mentioned a book follow up if anyone is interested. That would allow us to fill out the history in a more in depth way.

Book would be great I think.

Saw it last Thursday at CyB, was great to see a lot of old places/races that I remembered being at as a kid.

I'd certainly buy the book 🙂

I wasn't an Indiegogo backer, but bought a copy and settled down for a watch. The previous poster who said about access to archive footage was right! God knows where some of that was pulled from, or how many production companies who put the race footage together were approached, but the first half hour really is atmospheric and tells a story that even older blokes like me didn't know. The rise and fall of Muddy Fox for example, really well told and at a great place in the narrative.

It's not without its faults though, and my biggest issue comes down to when you consider untold to be.

I tried to find a picture from the Bike 96 show recently, and they just don't exist on the Internet. It's a black hole of history, where as almost anything in the last ten years (and especially the last five) is well documented.

To include Danny Macaskill - fantastic rider though he is - feels very much like a told story. The same with Road Bike Party and Ashton's video at Fort Bill. Both fantastic, both worthy of coverage, but not 'untold' by any stretch.

And, as has already been said, there's so, so much more that could be covered. British bike industry companies like Pace, Orange, Hope, Middleburn, etc. There's mention of David Baker and Tim Gould, but then the focus shifts to downhill and doesn't talk about the rise of teams like the Saracen Coors team.

The biggest omission for me is the lack of MBUK. There's probably a 25 year stretch over which the influence MBUK had on the MTB scene was phenomenal, but no mention of it at all.

As an aside, I could probably watch an hour long documentary about Steve Behr, his archives, the things he's seen and the way he shoots...

This may come across as negative, but I mean it constructively. I'm very happy the film was made, and I really enjoyed it. I've been recommending it to friends this morning who have their own history with MTBs. Great that this history can now be preserved and shared.

Also watched at CYB last week - really enjoyed it and big congrats on making it to those involved!

Watched it last night, confused, it seemed to jump in one big leap from Bula hats to Danny Macaskill. Huge missing gap with MBUK driving the UK scene.

No Mint Sauce? 😥

I was very busy swooning over the delectable DrP though so I may have missed it.

Basically, I [b]AM[/b] the UK MTB scene currently.
well, me and that Macaskill hippity hoppity chap.

DrP

Truth is some of our choices over narrative may not of been others and i understand the comments on some pieces being not so untold but we were trying to create a film that took you on a journey through peoples stories primarily. MBUK is in there all be it briefly if you look again.
Thanks for comments and insights.
Pip ( co director and producer)

PS...if the download sells well we might well do a DVD with some cool extras on as well...

sounds good. oh and, i've just bought the digital download. 🙂
time to get home on time for a change, and watch it before dinner

Just bought the download! Going to watch it this evening with my wife......she made me watch Dr Who yesterday so I have tv credit to my name 😀

Top film. Not downloaded it yet, saw it in Hebden Bridge. Great night, to riding in Hebden too. Just a shame I couldn't be shown at the Northern Grip festival. I would definitely buy the book (please do a book)

Looking forward to watching this tonight, and I would most definitely buy the book. Get it in Kickstarter asap!

Watched it tonight.

An excellent film.

Same. Watched it tonight. There could have been very many different films, but this was a damn good effort at being the best one. Everyone involved should be very proud of the result.

And, as has already been said, there's so, so much more that could be covered. British bike industry companies like Pace, Orange, Hope, Middleburn, etc. There's mention of David Baker and Tim Gould, but then the focus shifts to downhill and doesn't talk about the rise of teams like the Saracen Coors team.

The biggest omission for me is the lack of MBUK. There's probably a 25 year stretch over which the influence MBUK had on the MTB scene was phenomenal, but no mention of it at all.

Yeah didn't quite understand the inclusion of Muddy Fox, it's basically like the Mauritius tourist board highlighting the Dodo.....yeah awesome....Orange sponsored them....mention Orange and Hope. Give some money and exposure to successful British brands.

But other than that, I liked it.

I think you missed the point Tom - Muddy Fox kicked of the craze - its them that people went mental for and helped MTB get popular

Yep, i love Orange & Hope - did then and do now

But i also remember being a 12 year old and wanting a Muddy Fox - because it was affordable....if i just kept saving those pennies...

Quality film - top marks to the whole crew!! 🙂

To cover everything you'd need a whole web series or a few books I reckon. Think I might have to watch it again as from reading the comments it sounds like I missed a few bits. What I did notice those was the level of bonkers us cyclist are.

Just finished it, congratulations to everyone involved including all the crowdfunders. I hope you are all feeling proud for making it happen, you should be.

Rent it, buy it, watch it. 🙂

I watched it the other evening (finally got round to it), and thought it was absolutely lovely. I would definitely go for a follow up movie or book. Was also nice to see my name in lights at the end!

Forgive my ignorance, but which of the leading lights of UK MTB was DrP?

Sounds like something I want to watch would people recommend rent or buy?

I bought it, £10 vs £5 I think (various codes you can use for £1 off purchase, inc stw one). You can download the mp4. Firstly I like the option I can watch it multiple times (have watched Peaty's Won't Back Down 3 or 4 times) secondly a few extra £ for the project pot for whatever they want to do next